MalachiMcMullen Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 This creatine appears to be retaining anything and everything I eat nowadays. Before I could eat for hours straight and gain a pound or two a week and now I am 168lbs in the morning, 10 lbs heavier then about 2 weeks ago, friggin awesome I took that for a short stint. If you stop taking it, your weight will drop like a rock. When I stopped I went from 179 on a fat day after dinner to 170 under the same circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knyaz Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 yeah you gotta be carefull with the creatine Derek, I gained about 15 lbs from 160 at the time to 175 had lots of strength gains but then went back down after getting off it, just take it in moderation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Don't worry Steve, after loading for the first 7 days (as is recommended) I'm only taking it once a day from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Sheesh, all you guys trying to gain weight sounds like a bad joe to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That would be almost entirely water weight Derek. the creatine binds more of it up in the muscles. Besides its impossible to make muscles grow that fast anyway. - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 That would be almost entirely water weight Derek. the creatine binds more of it up in the muscles. Besides its impossible to make muscles grow that fast anyway.- Aaron So will that actually help me gain strength or it pretty much just useless mass? Squat Day (everything RAW) ATG Squats 145x5 165x5 185x5 Felt really solid, very happy with these ATG Front Squats 115x5 135x5 145x5 Very solid as well, unlike last workout I was able to lock the bar in on the down movement so I could do these with good form Hip Belt Squats First time trying these, had to do them on a short loading pin to get any ROM, can't load much more then 5 plates, any better ideas? 135x15 170x20 223x20 I REALLY like this exercise, after a few reps this absolutely fries my Glutes, Quads and hammys, this will be a staple in my routine from here forward 40kg KB Swings 20R 15L Wanted 20 both, but I was so toasted that by the 15th rep lefty I was getting about half a swing and I quit. I really like this exercise as well and it will be in nearly every squat day from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That would be almost entirely water weight Derek. the creatine binds more of it up in the muscles. Besides its impossible to make muscles grow that fast anyway.- Aaron So will that actually help me gain strength or it pretty much just useless mass? Squat Day (everything RAW) ATG Squats 145x5 165x5 185x5 Felt really solid, very happy with these ATG Front Squats 115x5 135x5 145x5 Very solid as well, unlike last workout I was able to lock the bar in on the down movement so I could do these with good form Hip Belt Squats First time trying these, had to do them on a short loading pin to get any ROM, can't load much more then 5 plates, any better ideas? 135x15 170x20 223x20 I REALLY like this exercise, after a few reps this absolutely fries my Glutes, Quads and hammys, this will be a staple in my routine from here forward 40kg KB Swings 20R 15L Wanted 20 both, but I was so toasted that by the 15th rep lefty I was getting about half a swing and I quit. I really like this exercise as well and it will be in nearly every squat day from now on. Not necessarily, but the extra water in your muscles does help you keep going. When I stopped and lost that weight, I noticed that the # of reps I was able to do dropped quite noticeably. My maxes remained the same, just the reps went down. On the squats, just stand on blocks. Build yourself some boxes or find the odd area that might suit your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks Zach I never thought of boxes. Would plywood be good enough or is something stronger necessary? What height/ROM should I be shooting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That would be almost entirely water weight Derek. the creatine binds more of it up in the muscles. Besides its impossible to make muscles grow that fast anyway.- Aaron So will that actually help me gain strength or it pretty much just useless mass? Yes, you will get some additional strength while taking it. I usually got up to +10% when I had used it in the past. It helps beef up the ATP tranport cycle. which allows your recovery to happen quicker (even during a set) so you immediately can get more reps. Once you stop that goes away but sometimes a little additional strength sticks around due to the increased training stress you were able to get while using it. You should probably read up on it if your taking it and understand how it works, as you should on anything non food you put in your body. - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks Zach I never thought of boxes. Would plywood be good enough or is something stronger necessary? What height/ROM should I be shooting for? Try to make it the same depth as your maximum squat depth, but just below parallel is all that is really needed. After all, it is a squat If you can actually go into a full squat, that may require some good size boxes. Plywood and 2x4's would be just fine for this stuff. Unless your lifting over 1000lbs regularly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Keep forgetting to post my gripper stuff in the last squat workout. FINALLY closed my Elite at 1/8", Got my 3.5 to 1/4", and my T7 to 1/8" or so (All MMS naturally). Need to find my damn allen wrench to adjust my Elite down more. Got my 138 lefty MMSx2, this shows me that my left hand set is EVERYTHING. I have never closed this MMS lefty before and I got a good set and 2 reps wasn't bad. The increased hydration seems to be helping my elbow, although I need to do more extensors and active rest because I've been seriously slacking on that. Also having my whole body warm with squats makes my grippers much stronger, I think I will do these on the same day from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) DEADLIFT DAY!!! Ahhh what an awesome day of the week. Deadlifts (Belt and Straps, Straps just to save grip) 315x2 315x2 315x2 315x2 315x2 I did this same weight last workout but it wasn't clean, today was CLEAN, moving up next week. Renegade Rows 16kg KB each hand x6; x6 One arm bent rows 28kg KB x10; x8 DB Shrugs 83lb each hand x10 x10 Ran 1 mile, forgot to start the timer but it felt kind of slow, not bad for my first day in a while, jogged all the way and had a nice finishing kick, will go faster next time. Edited January 8, 2009 by vikingsrule92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) I've never had a sudden decrease in weight when I stop taking creatine...and I take 12g a day I've also never really paid any attention to any strength gains I get from it. If anything, maybe 2 reps or so, and a small percentage on a max. The main reason I take it is for recovery. Anything else is a bonus. I take it after I lift, and before I go to bed. Edited January 8, 2009 by Magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) Yesterdays Clean workout: My back was really bothering me during this, I tried putting nicoflex on it but it clearly hurt my lifting a lot, that's why this was ended early, didn't want to risk further injury. Power Cleans 135x3 145x3 155x3 160x3 170x1 Dammit Hang Cleans 135x3 Power Jerk 135x2 Then I did my first scroll ever!! It turned out really well, 1/8" x 1/2" x 5', I forgot to take a picture with my camera before I gave it to my girlfriend for a bday present so either she'll have to send me one to put up here or I'll have to transfer one from my phone. This really beat my hands to hell, a few new bruises, callouses, and blood blisters, DAMN good workout. Also PKSd my hard #3 3 times and PKSd my Elite at 1/8". I need to work my camera skills before my next attempt on the MM1 because my one #3 attempt on camera my heel pad blocked the set, however otherwise I'm very confident. Edited January 11, 2009 by vikingsrule92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Grip day! Grippers, thickbar, bending Forgot to record everything so I'll just post the highlights Grippers: Right 3.5 to 1/4" T7 to 1/8" (kept slipping in my palm) Hard #3 PKS (wayyy outside parallel) 165 Narrow GE MMS!!!!! Rolling Thunder: Right 177x1 182x0 180x0 182xair (w/ Aaron's RT, just a bit easier then mine) A bunch of Negs with the Gracie Bending: 1st day back, not that serious a session buuuutttttt ..... 7" Brutal Hex!!!! Verrrryyyyy easy, about a minute, would have been quicker but I couldn't find my damn crush pads, also struglled to lock it under the chin at first Tried an Edgin but only got a small kink, still re-acclimating myself to the position, also my biceps were blasted after the Hex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Very nice Derek! Brutal Hex on your 1st session back is remarkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 nice gripping derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Some Pinch stuff Grippers: Terrible today, still had some DOMS from thickbar Wednesday and it affected me. Blobs: Terrible, some missed attempts at stuff I should be doing easily. Same excuse as grippers. My 47.5 was extra slippery today. 2HP (American at 58.5mm, in this assuming apparatus is 55 lbs, I need to weigh it) 105x5 125x5 145x5 155x1 165x0, x1 170x0 1 miss by <1", 3 times just getting a bit of air 2HP was really good considering I was having an off day, I think by ACGS 180 is possible, this technique that Aaron taught me over a year ago is finally clicking for me, hahaha. Blobs: 45x14 each hand alternating. Tore my Right thumb a bit. Braced Bending 3/8" x 10" G2 12" Tree Island Spike 5/8" x 30" All 3 of these were really easy, this next one was HARD: 5/8" x 36" Square, as I said in my thread in bending it took me 45 mins and tore me UP, friggin brutal bend and far and away the bend I've had to work the hardest for, best trophy I've ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Pic of the 5/8" Square Bend http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?autocom...si&img=8354 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) PAIN IS JUST WEAKNESS LEAVING THE BODY!!! Just ran 2 miles, with a few minute breather in between (will do it nonstop soon). The entire first mile my back was hurting and my calves were on fire, second mile nothing. Just barely crossed the finish but I did it non-stop jogging. Nearly threw up at the end and I know, if I didn't really throw up I didn't try hard enough Edited January 19, 2009 by vikingsrule92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hey! More running! How's the weather? I did 2.5 miles in 12 degrees with a killer windchill the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Hey! More running! How's the weather? I did 2.5 miles in 12 degrees with a killer windchill the other day Yeah man I'm really enjoying the running. And I want to prepare and do really well in a short race soon, probably the Cancer 5k if I can't find anything else. Plus my calves and lower quads were the only muscles not sore from yesterday and I really felt like doing something today Friggin AMAZING!!! It was like low 70s or upper 60s. GREAT running weather Edited January 19, 2009 by vikingsrule92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Nice! I'll probably do a bunch of races year just for fn...there's one nearby amost every weekend in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Nice! I'll probably do a bunch of races year just for fn...there's one nearby amost every weekend in the summer. I'm hoping to do a few as well, once I get some better times and conditioning at least. Is there an easy way to find races near you? I can only find a bunch of different sites with a lot of different info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthcarl Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 coolrunning.com is one of the better sites for finding races. There is a link from the main page to look for races, and you can search by state. It's probably easier for me...I live in a small town in a small county. Everything is in the local paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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