EricMilfeld Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 Eric, this is the first time I've checked you log and I'll try to give you some tips with 2" Vbar ... if you'll listen to a 15 year old try lower reps, that 20 rep back to back stuff has never worked for me and I REALLY despise it. I usually just do some warmups then singles up to near max. Great numbers lately man!! Keep it up!!! The way you do it is the way I usually train, Derek. The high reps are something I'm doing for a change of pace. It's still a mystery to me as to why my numbers are all over the map on any size v-bar. Oh, and when I was fifteen I knew more than I know now, so taking advice from a youngster is only natural. Kevin, thanks. How much have you done with plate pinching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Eric, this is the first time I've checked you log and I'll try to give you some tips with 2" Vbar ... if you'll listen to a 15 year old try lower reps, that 20 rep back to back stuff has never worked for me and I REALLY despise it. I usually just do some warmups then singles up to near max. Great numbers lately man!! Keep it up!!! The way you do it is the way I usually train, Derek. The high reps are something I'm doing for a change of pace. It's still a mystery to me as to why my numbers are all over the map on any size v-bar. Oh, and when I was fifteen I knew more than I know now, so taking advice from a youngster is only natural. Kevin, thanks. How much have you done with plate pinching? I believe the acronym I'm looking for is ROFLMAO. How does the saying go? "I'm not young enough to know everything because I'm old enough to know better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I've done 2-25s plus a loading pin with 2-5s (60lbs not counting the pin) to full deadlift with no problem. I'm working on doing 2-35s right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-wehner Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 hey Eric, been busy lately, and today was my first chance at a workout. tried your approach at the 2h pinch. don't feel like i gave it a fair shake, so i'm gonna still experiment with it further. One thing i did notice is that when i went back to my regular grip, after several tries hands together, my handle on the weight felt stronger, and i was pinching a little diferent too. got a new pr up to full dl as well. 132 of plates on an oly br sleeve (don't know how much the sleeve weighs so i just count plates.) broke the ground with 137 for an inch or two as well. definatly gonna keep working your style, as well as mine. after i get the hang of it might switch completely. one thing i do know is some of my flaws during the lift were cleaned up some by what you posted. will keep ya posted take care and good lifting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 I've done 2-25s plus a loading pin with 2-5s (60lbs not counting the pin) to full deadlift with no problem. I'm working on doing 2-35s right now. 2x35s is a good goal to attain! I bet you just might get it before I get my 45s. hey Eric, been busy lately, and today was my first chance at a workout. tried your approach at the 2h pinch. don't feel like i gave it a fair shake, so i'm gonna still experiment with it further. One thing i did notice is that when i went back to my regular grip, after several tries hands together, my handle on the weight felt stronger, and i was pinching a little diferent too. got a new pr up to full dl as well. 132 of plates on an oly br sleeve (don't know how much the sleeve weighs so i just count plates.) broke the ground with 137 for an inch or two as well. definatly gonna keep working your style, as well as mine. after i get the hang of it might switch completely. one thing i do know is some of my flaws during the lift were cleaned up some by what you posted. will keep ya posted take care and good lifting Well, I'm pleased to hear that it helped you at least somewhat. And nice pinching, by the way! My Euro is set up at about 2.25" thickness, but of course, it is adjustable. Most guys prefer this thickness. Before I toyed around with it I thought I was stronger at 2.5". This morning before I went to bed: - Diamond Classic #0 heeled - dumbbell wrist curls: 80 x 5 (each hand) And at work today: - several front levers with a big, heavy squeegee. For those curls I used my homemade dumbbell I made yesterday. Super simple and stout! A 1 1/4" x 6" nipple with a reducer coupler screwed on at each end, to which I attached 1 1/2" x 8" nipples. So, the handle comes out to 1 5/8" thick, which doesn't really limit my grip on rows until I get up in the high 100s, but this thickness still provides a decent grip workout. It only cost me about $10, because the nice lady cashier gave the reducers free of charge when they wouldn't scan properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Bending - 605 lb. 5/16 x 6" crs - took that super tough Huge Hex I started last week from 25 degrees to 30 degrees - 3/8 x 6.75" hrs to 113 degrees - then tore a deck of tough Gold Crowns (these are tougher than Bicycles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chuck Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Eric, Here's a Vbar routine I got from Franky a while back, served me well when I was using it regularly and I'm getting back into as of last week. You might want to try that, when training the 2" vbar:Max out first, the do a 3@3 set/rep scheme with 90% of the lifted weight. (Alternatively 5@5 with 80-85%). Doing some light sledge work before vbar training seems helpful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Eric, Here's a Vbar routine I got from Franky a while back, served me well when I was using it regularly and I'm getting back into as of last week.You might want to try that, when training the 2" vbar:Max out first, the do a 3@3 set/rep scheme with 90% of the lifted weight. (Alternatively 5@5 with 80-85%). Doing some light sledge work before vbar training seems helpful too. Thank you, Chuck! That looks like it may be a promising routine. I'll try it, or a variation of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 - then tore a deck of tough Gold Crowns (these are tougher than Bicycles) The Gold Crowns I tried were easier than the Mavericks I tried. They must vary alot. So far Bicycles are the toughest cards that I've tried (I've tried Gold Crowns, Aviators, Bee, Mavericks, and a couple of different types of cheap cards). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Nice bending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 - then tore a deck of tough Gold Crowns (these are tougher than Bicycles) The Gold Crowns I tried were easier than the Mavericks I tried. They must vary alot. So far Bicycles are the toughest cards that I've tried (I've tried Gold Crowns, Aviators, Bee, Mavericks, and a couple of different types of cheap cards). There's two distinct types of Gold Crowns: the older, super easy ones and the new and improved ones. The toughest I've ever come across were the Casino brand cards that sell for only $1 at Wally World. They feel stiff and plasticy. I think I've tried about 15 to 20 different brands. Nice bending Thank you. My bending's off a bit now, but I can deal with it since my other events are up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 My pinch is definitely overtrained now, as planned. 203 felt like a ton, so I'll rest it for a full 6 days and see what happens. Grippers - 166 lb. x 1 x 8 (parallel choker) - credit card reps: 113 lb. x 5 - left hand: 113 lb. x 9 - Bench Press: 228 x 10 - Hammer Curls: 60 x 10 (each hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) My pinch is definitely overtrained now, as planned. 203 felt like a ton, so I'll rest it for a full 6 days and see what happens.Grippers - 166 lb. x 1 x 8 (parallel choker) - credit card reps: 113 lb. x 5 - left hand: 113 lb. x 9 - Bench Press: 228 x 10 - Hammer Curls: 60 x 10 (each hand) What a coincidence! It feels like a ton to me as well, I guess I should rest 6 days and see what happens too Edited February 5, 2008 by MalachiMcMullen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 My pinch is definitely overtrained now, as planned. 203 felt like a ton, so I'll rest it for a full 6 days and see what happens.Grippers - 166 lb. x 1 x 8 (parallel choker) - credit card reps: 113 lb. x 5 - left hand: 113 lb. x 9 - Bench Press: 228 x 10 - Hammer Curls: 60 x 10 (each hand) What a coincidence! It feels like a ton to me as well, I guess I should rest 6 days and see what happens too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Your pinch is world class and improving That 2HP PR of your's is 105.2 kg ! Nice benching for your new bodyweight as well and it doesn't seem that your bending has lost very much, has it ? .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Second all that Eric. You're a full fledged monster of grip. Congrats, not like you've all of a sudden developed all this strength, but holy cow overall you're becoming unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 Your pinch is world class and improving That 2HP PR of your's is 105.2 kg !Nice benching for your new bodyweight as well and it doesn't seem that your bending has lost very much, has it ? .. neilkaz .. Thank you! I'm very proud of that lift, and certainly didn't expect to ever be doing that kind of weight. Persistence does pay off. My bending has suffered slightly, but this could be due not only to losing weight, but also because of my focus shifting more towards the common grip contest events. I've gone from doing a 6.5" "triangle" Edgin back to toughing out 7" "triangle" Edgins. Second all that Eric. You're a full fledged monster of grip. Congrats, not like you've all of a sudden developed all this strength, but holy cow overall you're becoming unstoppable. That means a lot coming from you, buddy. Thank you! Last night: - took a 30 degree "NB" 6" Edgin (710 lbs) to 62 degrees - took a 30 degree "JH" "FNL" 6" Edgin (685 lbs) to just shy of 90 degrees, and then a few minutes ago took it to just past 90 Tonight: - 2" axle deadlift 375 x 12 - 2" FBBC V-bar LEFT 232.2 x 1 232.2 x 1 237.7 x 1 237.7 x 1 206.8 x 9 RIGHT 232.2 x 0 232.2 x 0 232.2 x 1 237.7 x 0 237.7 x 1 206.8 x 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I don't think you should be too concerned with your bending strength going down because it looks like you are doing great in everything else. Not to mention bending a 7" edgin is still a very elite bend. On a different note, what kind of sledge levering would you recommend for someone that bends DU and reverse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 I don't think you should be too concerned with your bending strength going down because it looks like you are doing great in everything else. Not to mention bending a 7" edgin is still a very elite bend.On a different note, what kind of sledge levering would you recommend for someone that bends DU and reverse? Kevin, others may disagree with my approach, but I believe if you want to improve at bending and doing so is your primary goal, levering isn't necessary. High intensity bending is very hard on the body, much like deadlifts. If you're not bending enough, then some levering can help maintain your bending ability to some extent, but it's definitely not a replacement. But if you feel compelled to add some levering try some levering down to your nose. Greg Amidon has recommended a type of ballistic front levering for double overhand bending, but it would also apply to strengthening the hand placed on the top when reverse bending. Grab the hammer as you normally would hold it in the top position of a front lever and then lower it down to about parallel at a fast rate, stopping it as quickly as you can. Try snapping it back up quickly from the bottom position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 I forgot to mention I did 14 pullups on a 2.5" diameter bar the other day at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Euro Pinch 203.9 x 3 206.4 x 2.5 214.8 x 1.5 222.3 x 0 Blob 50 RIGHT x 1 x 3 +2.5 lbs. x 2" shy of lockout LEFT x .75 x .5 x .25 Parallel Choked Gripper 166 x 1 x 3 Bench Press 249 x 7 Hammer Curls 60 x 10 (each hand) Also did 60 deep knee bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I don't think you should be too concerned with your bending strength going down because it looks like you are doing great in everything else. Not to mention bending a 7" edgin is still a very elite bend.On a different note, what kind of sledge levering would you recommend for someone that bends DU and reverse? Kevin, others may disagree with my approach, but I believe if you want to improve at bending and doing so is your primary goal, levering isn't necessary. High intensity bending is very hard on the body, much like deadlifts. If you're not bending enough, then some levering can help maintain your bending ability to some extent, but it's definitely not a replacement. But if you feel compelled to add some levering try some levering down to your nose. Greg Amidon has recommended a type of ballistic front levering for double overhand bending, but it would also apply to strengthening the hand placed on the top when reverse bending. Grab the hammer as you normally would hold it in the top position of a front lever and then lower it down to about parallel at a fast rate, stopping it as quickly as you can. Try snapping it back up quickly from the bottom position. Thanks Eric. Not doing any levering doesn't bother me at all (especially since I can't fully lever a 6lb hammer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Nice pullups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Nice pullups. Thank you. Before I went to bed this morning: - bent a Diamond Classic #0 Heeled and did some isos with various shoes - levered my all my hammers a few times - got some good air several times with a one hand 92.1 lb. Euro Pinch - reverse grip bent a 6" grade 8 to 47 degrees - #25 plate wrist curls for 12 reps each hand (PR!) Basically I just kept fooling around with my toys until I got a PR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nockowt1 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Basically I just kept fooling around with my toys until I got a PR. I like that method of training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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