Heaviest Known Gripper Closes

[Scottex92]

6 minutes ago, Lennix said:

Fair points. I dont trust any of the online certs. And I'm also certified. I would also loved to see Carls #4 cert infront of witnesses, I would have refused to cert without because videos cant be trusted. 

 

Me paranoid, sure. Last time I was paranoid it was when we had another coc4 closer in 12 months of training. 

I can see why you don't trust online certs, as they would not fly in any other sport...

[Climber028]

I trust online certs for feats that many people have done, just like if someone tells me they can bench 225 I don't need a video or a witness since that's believable and achieved by many. The evidence required just becomes more strict as the difficulty increases, if someone says they benched 800 I wouldn't believe anything short of a sanctioned competition. 

To close a gripper above your bodyweight is already a rare feat only done by a handful of people and all just a few percentage higher, closing a gripper substantially higher than your bodyweight requires more scrutiny since it has never been done. 

[Tiziano Becchio]

4 hours ago, Lennix said:

To get back on why I think you should go see someone trusted or enter a competition is:

1. You have very little time invested in grippers, the amount of force your joints takes CCSing a Coc4 takes time to build up. 

2. Your closes looks wierd, you have the Kinney hydralicpress where the last part of the gripper gets easier. Which we all know is not correct. The last 3mm is definitely the hardest. 

3. Your set takes zero effort, setting a COC4 is crazy hard. 

4. You are trying to hide the dogleg of the spring in most video's and the videos where you don't hide it we find strange markings and possible glue residue. This was the exact same thing the greek guy 2 years ago tried. And he also quit when he was offered people to come to his gym and train. 

5. You got injured when the coc3.5 gripper from Ironmind reached Italy giving you plenty of time to alter the gripper and get it back into the package. You also spend so much time in the video showing that nothing has been done on the package which also looks like you done something with it. 

 

Nothing if this is conclusive, I don't know if you are doing anything to the grippers or are just the strongest gripperguy in the world. But claiming to be the #1 in a sport will need you to actually close other people grippers which people with knowledge verify is not tampered. 

So don't quit, keep training hard and go show the world that you indeed have the strongest hands ever walked the planet p4p 

 

the ironmind certs arrived in Italy at my house on 05/10/23

 

I was unlucky in april

 

 

 

see why I can't take you seriously, you don't even know how ironmind is certified and how much time you have to do it since the package is delivered to you.

 

come on guys put down your sticks or throw them at the dog who brings it back to you

 

 

 

plus i went to gyms where there were gbi members and did armwrestling and armlifting locks with them,

 

in various powerlifitng gyms I also went to train with grippers.

 

 

 

but do you know why I don't listen to you?

 

because you are nobody

 

you are not a federation

 

you are not ironmind, you are not my friend

 

on the contrary, you are simply someone with whom a friendship was born

 

a set of people

 

frustrated, envious with the Vice of talking too much.

 

 

 

and I emphasize it so that maybe voices in your head

 

 

 

I don't want your approval, on the contrary, I'm really at it

 

You can also ban me as far as I'm concerned

 

and create a small sect where you hold hands and convince each other of what you want

[bruce1337]

[David_wigren]

5 minutes ago, Tiziano Becchio said:

the ironmind certs arrived in Italy at my house on 05/10/23

 

I was unlucky in april

 

 

 

see why I can't take you seriously, you don't even know how ironmind is certified and how much time you have to do it since the package is delivered to you.

 

come on guys put down your sticks or throw them at the dog who brings it back to you

 

 

 

plus i went to gyms where there were gbi members and did armwrestling and armlifting locks with them,

 

in various powerlifitng gyms I also went to train with grippers.

 

 

 

but do you know why I don't listen to you?

 

because you are nobody

 

you are not a federation

 

you are not ironmind, you are not my friend

 

on the contrary, you are simply someone with whom a friendship was born

 

a set of people

 

frustrated, envious with the Vice of talking too much.

 

 

 

and I emphasize it so that maybe voices in your head

 

 

 

I don't want your approval, on the contrary, I'm really at it

 

You can also ban me as far as I'm concerned

 

and create a small sect where you hold hands and convince each other of what you want

My friend, you are in no position to call Lennix (Thom Fingalsson) a nobody. Lennix has been at my place several times and competed at my competitions aswell as in other competitions. I’ve also been at his place and trained with him. I’ve seen him lift MY inch and MY blobs. He’s bent my steel and I’ve bent his.

And your disrespectful hints at Carl is very distasteful. He has competed at many competitions and has god knows how many records. He’s perhaps the best grip athlete ever. And most importantly, the stuff he does is for real. Is the stuff you do real? I’m not convinced.

In 2023 there is simply no longer any excuse not to show up at a grip getogether or a competition. I’m sure you’ve brought some grippers and performed well in front of people who aren’t familiar with grip. That doesn’t mean anything. From what I can tell you have never performed anything in front of someone who actually knows grip and can spot any shenanigans. And my prediction is that you never will. You are not the first to close the 4 gripper under suspicious circumstances and you will not be the last.

If you truly have the grip strength that you claim that you have. Then I urge you to prove it beyond any doubt. At this time you are simply just a nobody on the internet posting videos of unverified feats of strength. Whenever you are ready to step into the real world we will welcome you with open arms. 

[Mashmonster268]

This (IMO) is a bizarre reaction.  I'm like some of the others who mentioned they'd take all the disbelief as a compliment.  And with the amount of money he has spent on certs and grip stuff, it's not financial reasons holding him back from meeting up with other high level gripsters.  He has jumped through the hoops for the certs.  But I do understand wanting "in person" proof of the CCS #4 close.  I'd say the same for Carl, but he is also a well known competitor and has the Axle DO record. 

[Cannon]

Okay, on all sides this needs to go to private messages where you can debate the finer points and block people if you don't want to hear from them. I don't see this thread progressing toward constructive conversation. 

From a moderation standpoint regarding faked certifications, we are not trying to facilitate baseless accusations in this community. If you feel your accusation is not baseless, then make your compelling argument to IronMind. The validity of the cert is not up to anyone but them. He did it according to their rules and they saw fit to pass and it's a fact that he's on the list. If your argument has merit and/or evidence, I'm sure it will be considered by IronMind.  

[Tiziano Becchio]

here is the david flag blowing against the wind again, you too until recently seemed to have a different idea.

me talking bad about carl? tell me where? he is a dear friend and perhaps one of the few who has behaved like a friend with me, I often hear him to tell the truth. I would never allow myself to speak ill of carl he is a god in my eyes.

 

then as regards I repeat that I am nobody for you, and you are for me

 

I'm not exactly nobody like you say

you claim the opposite

and I say that you are nobody and you say the opposite, shall we play dice? or me? I see that you have a specialist there in Sweden

 

the point is that I as an athlete am accountable to those who examine me and have examined me.

not to you and until it is clear to you I don't know what to tell you

for me there can also be Jesus who tells me that I am fake

the point is that I have several world records too

certifications etc

conquered with exactly the same criteria and scrupulosity, indeed many more than many of your heroes?

so why are you shitting on me? so train do half of what I did and then we'll talk about it

until then your opinion continues to be worth zero whoever you are.

 

because contrary to what you think

I'm a trucker not a star concept that is very clear in my mind

I can't say the same about you.

[Cannon]

5 minutes ago, Cannon said:

Okay, on all sides this needs to go to private messages where you can debate the finer points and block people if you don't want to hear from them. I don't see this thread progressing toward constructive conversation. 

From a moderation standpoint regarding faked certifications, we are not trying to facilitate baseless accusations in this community. If you feel your accusation is not baseless, then make your compelling argument to IronMind. The validity of the cert is not up to anyone but them. He did it according to their rules and they saw fit to pass and it's a fact that he's on the list. If your argument has merit and/or evidence, I'm sure it will be considered by IronMind.  

Reiterating this statement. 

Take it to private messages. Participants can block folks they don't want to hear from. 

 

[David_wigren]

7 minutes ago, Tiziano Becchio said:

here is the david flag blowing against the wind again, you too until recently seemed to have a different idea.

me talking bad about carl? tell me where? he is a dear friend and perhaps one of the few who has behaved like a friend with me, I often hear him to tell the truth. I would never allow myself to speak ill of carl he is a god in my eyes.

 

then as regards I repeat that I am nobody for you, and you are for me

 

I'm not exactly nobody like you say

you claim the opposite

and I say that you are nobody and you say the opposite, shall we play dice? or me? I see that you have a specialist there in Sweden

 

the point is that I as an athlete am accountable to those who examine me and have examined me.

not to you and until it is clear to you I don't know what to tell you

for me there can also be Jesus who tells me that I am fake

the point is that I have several world records too

certifications etc

conquered with exactly the same criteria and scrupulosity, indeed many more than many of your heroes?

so why are you shitting on me? so train do half of what I did and then we'll talk about it

until then your opinion continues to be worth zero whoever you are.

 

because contrary to what you think

I'm a trucker not a star concept that is very clear in my mind

I can't say the same about you.

I didn’t understand half of what you said there.

But I do apologize if I mistook you for inferring negative comments about Carl. It was not my intention to put words in your mouth and if I misunderstood that part I again apologize.

However I stand by that you need to perform at an objective and trusted environment before I will accept any further claims from you.

 

[Ivan Pupchenko]

I think the problem is that some people think that all intelligent life, civilization and trustworthy people and events are going on/happening on the other side of the oсaen (in relation to the territory where Tiziano lives). And here where we are - savages, swindlers and all kinds of non-gentlemen, whom to trust means to deceive oneself. I wrote this to Tiziano and I am writing to you - he is right. He doesn't have to prove anything to any of you. On this forum, people share their thoughts about grip sports, and their results (regardless of how close they are to the records and the top of the any lists). The problem is that if someone from a God-chosen country lifts 90kg on rolling or closes the CoC-2,5 (I'm not talking about 3), then he will have several sheets of comments with approval and support and a couple of dozen likes. And if someone, aborigines of wild overseas lands geographically far from you, posts a video with the closing of CoC-3,5 or 4, or lifts a weight at the age of fifteen that most of you will never can't lift - at best they will get 3-4 likes, well, and John Knowlton will write something encouraging. And at worst, all that brown substance that is located higher in this topic will begin to splash out. Closing are not like that. Yor are nobody. The disks are not certified. The scales are not certified. You're not certified....

So -Tiziano - hit them all! Do your job, that God has given tallent to you to do. And don't look back at the envious barking. They're spitting saliva at your back because you're way ahead of them!

If I offended any of you - well, I'm sorry.

 

People, you need to learn to be friendly.
Support each other.
Trust each other.
And do not throw around unfounded accusations based only on your conjectures. Not confirmed by anything.

Be kinder and more humane to each other - and it will return to you with the kindness and trust of other people!

[Tiziano Becchio]

hi guys, today I did a live show it was a nice live show where I was able to answer your doubts it was nice to make myself available and be asked about measurements before and after closing the grippers

and also live on Rolling Thunder on its rotation and tested by Lennix with a new more central grip on the rollong than usual

in live 3 attempts with the 230 lb coc4 missed by a mm (I think it is heavier than 230 lb)

93 kg of Rolling thunder left and right

with GBI Italy rules

burden of myself

of race weight and height measurement

 

It was nice to make myself available to you and be put to the test by your requests

a good evening everyone.

 

if any of you have recorded the live broadcast please send it to me as I have lost some pieces

being the first one I've done I must have done something wrong

in saving it

[Londonjoseph]

Since it was Instagram, if you go to your "archives" you should be able to see the whole Livestream. 

 

 

I would like to say though, a livestream doesn't beat the credibility of a well respected witness 

[Tiziano Becchio]

Of course a witness is even better, that too will come

after the certification on the 4th (assuming I can get it) I will take two years to work on armwrestling and armlifting

and if I overcome my fear of flying I will try to participate in armlifting USA,

today I did this live and (I think I will do others) to give you the opportunity to see all of my training, to ask me for all the tests you wanted live so as to see that there is nothing falsified.

Many athletes I talk to, I don't know if they would have been as available as I have been gbi atlete for exemple said to me i dont prove my self becouse i proved my self a lot of time .

lennix asked me for more videos and tests after the live and I was happy to do everything he asked of me,

the fact that I am so available despite the offenses etc. speaks volumes

I ask you only one thing: enjoy my performances, my records and certificates and rejoice together with me, as you can see I have nothing to hide

Im here to write the history not for steal it.

Have a good evening

Edited September 9, 2023 by Tiziano Becchio

[Londonjoseph]

4 hours ago, Tiziano Becchio said:

Of course a witness is even better, that too will come

after the certification on the 4th (assuming I can get it) I will take two years to work on armwrestling and armlifting

and if I overcome my fear of flying I will try to participate in armlifting USA,

today I did this live and (I think I will do others) to give you the opportunity to see all of my training, to ask me for all the tests you wanted live so as to see that there is nothing falsified.

Many athletes I talk to, I don't know if they would have been as available as I have been gbi atlete for exemple said to me i dont prove my self becouse i proved my self a lot of time .

lennix asked me for more videos and tests after the live and I was happy to do everything he asked of me,

the fact that I am so available despite the offenses etc. speaks volumes

I ask you only one thing: enjoy my performances, my records and certificates and rejoice together with me, as you can see I have nothing to hide

Im here to write the history not for steal it.

Have a good evening

What's to stop you from getting a credible witness now though? I bet it would be super easy to get Giorno Giannico to look at something grand. 

[Tiziano Becchio]

between Giorgio and me there are 13 hours by car

the only gbi representative near me is 1 hour away and we met with him several times and toured the armwrestling teams in the north to test me in armwrestling and let him see my skills live, there should be some videos on YouTube of the teams.

Furthermore, Giorgio wouldn't have responded to you because, in his opinion, it's up to the person responsible to decide whether I'm legit or not

therefore ironmind, ghp,vano gmc, armlifting Greece, crabhold, gbi, goodof grip etc

I'm the one who answers you because even if I think like him, as you can see, I'm always available to please even the most skeptical

Since November you have been asking me for level certifications, gripper control, gripper exchanges, then GMC then IronMind then live shows then performing live

I did everything you asked

still not enough? you want an ok level witness

but now I ask you for patience,

I have already said that I would like to fly to the USA for the competition, I will prepare for it

I repeat, enjoy the videos, the live performances, the certifications, etc

there will be time for this blessed high level witness (because I repeat I have performed live more than once and also in front of one of the GBI and other grappling athletes).

now it's up to you to be patient

and if you don't want to bring it, amen, I did everything and even more to be available and well-liked

you can't please everyone.

[Tiziano Becchio]

 

 

 

Hi guys today lift some heavy Stone in the High of Mountain for grip and body strenght , 

Also lift by the floor One like a husafell wheight +170-180 but no complete lift . Im very Happy

Bw 63 kg .

Edited September 10, 2023 by Tiziano Becchio

[C8Myotome]

I have a verified GHP8 RGC 169 38 mm close official cert that should be on the list here, I DM'd Jared the details

[Alawadhi]

On 9/10/2023 at 10:47 AM, Tiziano Becchio said:

between Giorgio and me there are 13 hours by car

the only gbi representative near me is 1 hour away and we met with him several times and toured the armwrestling teams in the north to test me in armwrestling and let him see my skills live, there should be some videos on YouTube of the teams.

Furthermore, Giorgio wouldn't have responded to you because, in his opinion, it's up to the person responsible to decide whether I'm legit or not

therefore ironmind, ghp,vano gmc, armlifting Greece, crabhold, gbi, goodof grip etc

I'm the one who answers you because even if I think like him, as you can see, I'm always available to please even the most skeptical

Since November you have been asking me for level certifications, gripper control, gripper exchanges, then GMC then IronMind then live shows then performing live

I did everything you asked

still not enough? you want an ok level witness

but now I ask you for patience,

I have already said that I would like to fly to the USA for the competition, I will prepare for it

I repeat, enjoy the videos, the live performances, the certifications, etc

there will be time for this blessed high level witness (because I repeat I have performed live more than once and also in front of one of the GBI and other grappling athletes).

now it's up to you to be patient

and if you don't want to bring it, amen, I did everything and even more to be available and well-liked

you can't please everyone.

Hello Tiziano,

Hope you're doing well.

Can I ask you why is that you don't want to meet with a reputable GripBoard member? What is stopping you? It is a legit question. I remember long ago Tommy Hesleep had doubts and went to competitions to clear those doubts. Big claims requires big backing up.

Regards,

Bader

[Alawadhi]

7 hours ago, Alawadhi said:

Hello Tiziano,

Hope you're doing well.

Can I ask you why is that you don't want to meet with a reputable GripBoard member? What is stopping you? It is a legit question. I remember long ago Tommy Hesleep had doubts and went to competitions to clear those doubts. Big claims requires big backing up.

Regards,

Bader

Tommy Heslep was doubted by Gripboard members*

Just fixing what I meant. Also, Tiziano contacted me and all is cool. He will sooner than later meet someone.

[matek]

For me, this is even more incredible than his CoC #4 cert. 
Congratulations, @Carl Myerscough, this is absolutely crazy. 

[pancho_grip_lift]

5 minutes ago, matek said:

For me, this is even more incredible than his CoC #4 cert. 
Congratulations, @Carl Myerscough, this is absolutely crazy. 

Amazing!!

[Alawadhi]

18 hours ago, matek said:

For me, this is even more incredible than his CoC #4 cert. 
Congratulations, @Carl Myerscough, this is absolutely crazy. 

Carl gripper strength is out of this world! Just wow.

[slazbob]

Has anyone heard from Tiziano? His content on YouTube is gone.

[Scottex92]

12 hours ago, slazbob said:

Has anyone heard from Tiziano? His content on YouTube is gone.

oh no, could this mean what everyone thinks it means?