DevilErik Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Today's session: Grippers I wasn't fully recovered from my previous session. No matter how I adjust my volume I can't recover from training grippers three times a week so I will go back to two times. I closed (10,12) 180 RGC twice this session and then I stopped. Recovery: 100 lbs gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket" 3x failure Edited July 7, 2022 by DevilErik 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) Today's session: Grippers+dynamic pinch Vulcan V2: Orange Spring Warming up: 1-1/2-2/3-3/4-4 11-11: 4 negatives Dynamic pinch+keypinch: Pony clamp: 3x6 Imtug 2: 3x6 Extensor bands: 3x10 Recovery: Vulcan V2: 2-2 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure Edited July 11, 2022 by DevilErik 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Conjugate Iron Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 6:51 PM, DevilErik said: Today's session: Grippers I wasn't fully recovered from my previous session. No matter how I adjust my volume I can't recover from training grippers three times a week so I will go back to two times. I closed (10,12) 180 RGC twice this session and then I stopped. Recovery: 100 lbs gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket" 3x failure 3 sessions per week? Damn brother, must be nice to be 25 HAHAHA Working hard I see 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Terry Conjugate Iron said: 3 sessions per week? Damn brother, must be nice to be 25 HAHAHA Working hard I see Thanks brother! 3 sessions is too much even for me two works great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Conjugate Iron Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 hours ago, DevilErik said: Thanks brother! 3 sessions is too much even for me two works great. Agreed. Hands have small muscles and they need recovery. Where's your strength at you think right now? What's the heaviest gripper you can close 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Terry Conjugate Iron said: Agreed. Hands have small muscles and they need recovery. Where's your strength at you think right now? What's the heaviest gripper you can close I have no clue. I closed 180 LBS RGC on the Ivanko for 3 singles but the Ivanko is very different from torsion spring grippers. I did close my 300 lbs non rated gripper but it has gotten narrow so it is probably very easy. The Ivanko focuses the most on the index and middle finger Torsion spring grippers focus more on the ring finger and pinky so it is a completely different experience. The Ivanko has a very hard sweep and then kinda gives up so it is the complete opposite of a torsion spring gripper. The 180 LBS is the rating when it's closed which probably means that the sweep is even harder. Edited July 13, 2022 by DevilErik 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Conjugate Iron Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 4:56 PM, DevilErik said: I have no clue. I closed 180 LBS RGC on the Ivanko for 3 singles but the Ivanko is very different from torsion spring grippers. I did close my 300 lbs non rated gripper but it has gotten narrow so it is probably very easy. The Ivanko focuses the most on the index and middle finger Torsion spring grippers focus more on the ring finger and pinky so it is a completely different experience. The Ivanko has a very hard sweep and then kinda gives up so it is the complete opposite of a torsion spring gripper. The 180 LBS is the rating when it's closed which probably means that the sweep is even harder. 300lbs non rated is still no joke! I'm still struggling with most of my unrated 300s. 180rgc is great!! I'm around 140rgc judging by what rated grippers I can close. And I agree some of them are so wide man... I'll never close them lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Terry Conjugate Iron said: 300lbs non rated is still no joke! I'm still struggling with most of my unrated 300s. 180rgc is great!! I'm around 140rgc judging by what rated grippers I can close. And I agree some of them are so wide man... I'll never close them lol Torsion spring grippers feel so different I still have to get used to them. Thanks man! You can't really compare the Ivanko to Torsion spring grippers I have no idea what I can close torsion spring gripper wise. My gripper is around credit card set width which is stupid narrow in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Today's session: Grippers I decided to stop using my pony clamp and Imtug dynamic pinch and keypinch give me a weird sensation in my thumbs and make my thumbs click. Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) RGC 180: 4 singles I am not sure if I got all of them it can be quite hard to tell whether or not the Ivanko Gripper is closed unless you just straight up overcrush it without any effort. It doesn't always click when you close it and it sometimes does click when it isn't fully closed. Recovery: 100 LBS gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure Edited July 15, 2022 by DevilErik 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Conjugate Iron Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 4:36 PM, DevilErik said: Torsion spring grippers feel so different I still have to get used to them. Thanks man! You can't really compare the Ivanko to Torsion spring grippers I have no idea what I can close torsion spring gripper wise. My gripper is around credit card set width which is stupid narrow in my opinion. It's good to have all ranges when it comes to width I think. I got a few grippers that are a bit wider than 8cm which I find very challenging. And I can't say my hands are small at 20.5 to 21cm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) RGC 180: 1 single Vulcan V2 Orange Spring: 3 negatives: 11-11 I really need some new grippers. I wanted to get a third spring for the Ivanko but I can't get it anywhere. I think I am going to get some CoC grippers and just train No Sets setting is impossible for me and setting doesn't do anything for me because my no set is my strongest "set". The ultimate goal would be to no set close a CoC 4 I do believe I have it in me but it is going to take years and years of blood sweat and tears but I don't mind. Recovery: 100 LB gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure Edited July 20, 2022 by DevilErik 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, DevilErik said: Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) RGC 180: 1 single Vulcan V2 Orange Spring: 3 negatives: 11-11 I really need some new grippers. I wanted to get a third spring for the Ivanko but I can't get it anywhere. I think I am going to get some CoC grippers and just train No Sets setting is impossible for me and setting doesn't do anything for me because my no set is my strongest "set". The ultimate goal would be to no set close a CoC 4 I do believe I have it in me but it is going to take years and years of blood sweat and tears but I don't mind. Recovery: 100 LB gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure I don’t “believe” your going to close a #4. I KNOW your going to close a #4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Blacksmith513 said: I don’t “believe” your going to close a #4. I KNOW your going to close a #4. Thanks man I appreciate it I will give it my all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) RGC 180: 4 singles Recovery: 100 LBS gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, DevilErik said: Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) RGC 180: 4 singles Recovery: 100 LBS gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure I was getting worried, your last post on here was Wednesday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, Blacksmith513 said: I was getting worried, your last post on here was Wednesday. Thanks for the concern. The weather messed with my training schedule so I only trained once last week. I didn't feel like exerting myself in the scorching heat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) 2 singles My next goal will be to overcrush the Ivanko I will be doing singles on one day and overcrushes on the other. I tested my overcrush after my heavy singles so I can do better than I did today. I nearly overcrushed (6,12) 138 RGC while already fatigued so I think that's my starting point. I tried (8,10) 130 RGC after these two singles but I didn't close it any further so (6,12) should be a good starting point. Recovery: 100 LB gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure Edited July 28, 2022 by DevilErik 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matek Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DevilErik said: Today's session: Grippers Ivanko Super Gripper: Warming up: (1,3)-(1,5)-(1,7)-(1,8)-(1,9)-(1,10) (10,12) 2 singles My next goal will be to overcrush the Ivanko I will be doing singles on one day and overcrushes on the other. I tested my overcrush after my heavy singles so I can do better than I did today. I nearly overcrushed (6,12) 138 RGC while already fatigued so I think that's my starting point. I tried (8,10) 130 RGC after these two singles but I didn't close it any further so (6,12) should be a good starting point. Recovery: 100 LB gripper: 3x failure Extensor "bucket": 3x failure Nice gripper session. What does "overcrush" mean with the ISG? Edited July 28, 2022 by matek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, matek said: Nice gripper session. What does "overcrush" means with the ISG? Thanks man! It basically means that top parts of the handles touch each other. The Ivanko already clicks when the bottom part is closed but then there's still a small gap between the top part of the handles. Edited July 28, 2022 by DevilErik forgot an s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, matek said: Nice gripper session. What does "overcrush" means with the ISG? Here's an example (I hope Chez is ok with me posting one of his videos here) This counts as a close in competition but the gripper isn't fully closed (overcrushed). I have closed the highest setting this far but not all the way(overcrush). Edited July 28, 2022 by DevilErik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matek Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, DevilErik said: Thanks man! It basically means that top part of the handles touch each other. The Ivanko already clicks when the bottom part is closed but then there's still a small gap between the top part of the handles. Thanks for the answer. My ISG replica is quite different then. My gym has an original ISG, will try it next time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, matek said: Thanks for the answer. My ISG replica is quite different then. My gym has an original ISG, will try it next time! I think the original ISG has a larger range of motion than the replicas but I am not sure. Awesome man let me know what you can squeeze! Edited July 28, 2022 by DevilErik 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 It’s weird the ISG gets no love. It’s a great gripper. The Vulcan will always be #1 but the ISG is cool because it works your crush in a slightly different way and it was tons of different levels of resistance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Blacksmith513 said: It’s weird the ISG gets no love. It’s a great gripper. The Vulcan will always be #1 but the ISG is cool because it works your crush in a slightly different way and it was tons of different levels of resistance. It doesn't get any love because you can't certify on it and it doesn't really carry over to torsion spring grippers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blacksmith513 said: It’s weird the ISG gets no love. It’s a great gripper. The Vulcan will always be #1 but the ISG is cool because it works your crush in a slightly different way and it was tons of different levels of resistance. Let me correct myself it does carry over but only to no sets. Putting the gripper in your hand without the finger tips on the gripper and exploding into the close from an open hand position. The first time I touched a 300 LB unrated gripper I nearly closed it so there is definitely some carry over. In the end you are way better off going straight to torsion spring grippers if that's the goal it will save you a lot of time. Edited July 28, 2022 by DevilErik 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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