FrankyBoy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I might need to reevaluate this 5 negatives 5 attempts workout. I like the Negative crushes but when I don't incorporate actual closes I find I just get really good at holding the #4 around 1/2-1/4 from shut and lose my last eighth needed to close the #3 and beyond. I'm going to try it for one more workout and if the closes are still a joke then I"m going to switch it up again. Josh, what do you think of alternating your NCs with the single attempts/closes instead of doing the 5 NCs in a row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 Good idea, I'll give that a shot. I'm also considering doing all NC's one week and all closes the next. On the NC week I would start with the #4 and work down to my MM1dud(#4,BBSE,ISG,MM1dud), on the close week I would start with the ISG on 10,12 or the MM1dud and work down to the 04#3 doing closes until failure with each gripper. Maybe throw in some no-set stuff with my filed#2. I think I'll try the alternate method first and if it fails go to the alternating weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 7-27-04 warmup on filed #2 overcrush RH 5 NC's with #4: 2/5 were great, 1 was above average, other two were average 5 attempts on MM2dud: closed, 1/8, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4 cheated it shut last set and performed NC's until it opened to parallel then repeated until it just flew open to parallel LH 10 attempts on #3: credit card(thought I had it), 1/8, 8 at 1/4 TTK 25x5, 40x0, 40x0, 37.5x0, 37.5x0, 35x1, 35x1, 35x0, 25x12, 10x33 didn't have today on pinch so I decided to do some rep work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 Warmup: oc of filed #2 #4 in choker: two all out squeezes until it rebounded back out to the choker and 2 negative crushes. I didn't like the NC's in the choker NC #4 no choker: 3 of them all about average MM2dud: missed by 1/4, missed by 1/4, missed by 1/8, missed by 1/4 then smooth negative, missed by 1/4 smooth negative LH #3: 1 at 1/8, 8 at 1/4, 2 at 1/2 then smooth negative TTK warmup 25x5 Working sets 40x1 40x1 40x1 Drop-set style no rest 32.5 to failure, 6 reps 30 to failure, 5 reps 25 to failure, 4 reps 15 to failure 15 reps Evaluation: Crush sucked and pinch went great. I think I'm going to switch to the negative crushes one week and closes starting with goal gripper and working down to 04#3 the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 3, 2004 Author Share Posted August 3, 2004 8-3-04 Warmup: oc of filed #2 RH MM1dud: 1/4inch, 1/4 inch MM2dud: 3 closes, 2 misses 04#3: 1 close 1 miss' LH: #3: 9 attempts, all around 1/4 This is one of the worst workouts I've had in awhile. I'm going to play with the new Red nails I reccieved because my crush is broken today Bending: Red nail: got nowhere, gave it 3 all out bursts double overhand, need to get used to the 7 inches as it feels awkward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 8, 2004 Author Share Posted August 8, 2004 (edited) 8-6-04 warmup: 04 #3 RH MM1dud aka The Nemesis: 2 at 1/4, 2 at 1/8, 1 at credit card MM2dud: 5 attempts: 2 closes, 3 around a credit card 04#3: closed first one then I missed the next 3 bad No set filed #2: 5 singles waited several minutes: 04#3: 5 closes slightly deeper than parallel set 2 finger 04#3 attempt: somewhere around 3/8 hard to judge, definetly less than 1/2 inch but not quite 1/4 this will take some work I need to take more rest between sets. I'm getting in too big of a hurry LH 15 attempt with #3 all around 1/4 to 1/8 NO set Filed #2: 3 closes to misses No time for pinch right now maybe later tonight Edited August 8, 2004 by jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 8-9-04 Combined a honey-do chore with grip to make for a heck of a workout. I had to rip up the 23 concrete blocks that were in front of the curb posing as a garbage can pad and haul them all to the back patio where I was to install them off the edge to rehab the area the dogs had dug up and give it a nice clean look. The blocks were 7.5 inches wide, about 2.5-3 inches thick and about 18 inches long. I didn't weigh them but they felt to be 30lbs at the very least. I decided a wheel barrow was the easy way out so I decided to pinch grip farmer walk them to the backyard. I could only do this with about 12 of them as the only rest I had was walking back to the front. I had workgloves on adding to the challenge. While installing them I tried to handle them one handed pinch grip style as much as possible. I took the remaining 6 and PGFW them to the shed. I don't know if this is anything like blockweights but my hands were fried for the rest of the night. It was a lot of fun and I managed to get a good workout in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Good report jad, I have a pair of waterlogged standard UK 150mm concerte blocks that I used to get a great pinch workout from. The main use I used to get was going for maxes by balancing putting plates on the ends and pinching with the hand in the middle. I worked up to the block (48lbs) with an additional 30lbs on top, and if memory serves I got put off because it was very brutal on the thumb skin - I knew I had the strength for a lift once so I locked it out, almost as soon as I got to lockout, it dropped along with half the skin/flesh on my thumb.....not good Dropping one on my beach sandle clad feet put me off the farmers walks .....not very clever. In conclusion (to tie up all the rambling) good tool for newbies, once you get stronger, it's time to move on to something made for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaibox Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Jad, you ever seen The Last Castle? You sound like Redford hauling those rocks. Isn't it about time to give that red another whirl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Yeah, The Last Castle is a great movie. I hurt something in my neck last time I tried a Red. It's about healed but my shoulder is killing me now from board presses yesterday. I knew as soon as I got off the bench I did something. Soon as I'm healthy, I'm going after it again. I'm tempted to cut one down to 6.5 because the 7 just feels so akward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 8-13-04 Warmup: filed #2 ocs RH MM1dud: 3 attempts, all around 1/8, MM2dud: closed, credit card, closed, closed, 1/4 crappy-set the gripper slipped, credit card, closed 04#3 two fingers slightly deeper than parallel: about3/8x3, 1 a little more than 1/4 ISG 1,4 last two fingers: closed ISG 1,6 last two fingers: closed, closed ISG 1,7 last two fingers: credit card ISG 1,7 last two fingers: credit card ISG 1,7 last two fingers: closed ISG 1,7 last two fingers: closed ISG 1,7 last two fingers: closed ISG 1,7 last two fingers: 1/8 ISG 1,7 last two fingers: 1/8 then performed two negatives noset filed #2: 5 consecutive reps righty, 1 lefty LH 04#3: 1/4-1/8 then cheat close, and smooth out x12 Pinch TTK 25x5 40x1 40.2.5 40x1 30x12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 8-16-04 Warmup: filed #2 oc RH MM1dud: 5 attempts: 1/4, 1/4, 1/8, 1/8, 1/8 MM2dud: 5 attempts: 1/8, closed, credit card, closed, credit card 04#3: 5 attempts1/8, closed, closed, closed, closed 04#3 two fingers: 1 attempt, it was joke just too fried today to even mess with this last two fingers ISG: 1,4x3, 1,5x1, 1,5x1, 1,6x1 1,7x1, 1,5x1, 1,5x1, 1,5x1 No set filed #2: 7consecutive reps LH ISG 10,4: closed 10,8: closed 11,6: closed 11,7: closed 12,6: 13 attempts: 3 closes, 8 around a credit card, 2 around 1/4 Last two fingers: same as above No set filed #2: 4 reps TTK 25x5 42.5x0: just ugly 40+clipx1 42.5x1: tried to be strict as possible but I could feel my shoulders and neck getting really tense at the end so there was some body english involved 42.5x1: same as above 35x1 35x2 30x6 then immediately drop to 25 for 9 reps then immediately to 10 lbs for 5 reps lefty and 5 reps righty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 (edited) 8-19-04 Warmup: oc with filed #2 MM1dud: 5 attempts: 1/4, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/16 MM2dud: 5 attempts: closed, closed, credit card, couldn't tell a paper thickness if it wasn't closed, I couldn't feel the handles touch but I couldn't see any space either??, closed 04#3: 5 attempts: closed all 5 last two fingers on ISG on 1/7: 1/4, closed, closed, closed, credit card no set filed #2: 8 consecutive reps...barely LH ISG on 12,6: 1/4, 1/8, 3 closes ISG on 12,7: 1/4 to 1/8 x8 attempts, 2 closes last two fingers on ISG on 1/7: same as RH no set filed #2: zilch...just didn't have it today Gonna skip pinch today because I"m expecting my Blob50 today or tommorrow and I want to be fresh when it laughs at me Edited August 19, 2004 by jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Those 7" bars do feel awkward at first. I don't think you will notice a huge increase in difficulty with the 6.5" red if you are folding, but the crush down will be good and stout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Thanks for the advice Clay, I'll have to keep that in mind. My shoulder has to heal up before I bend anything. I'll proably have to take another week off of the gym before I bend again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 22, 2004 Author Share Posted August 22, 2004 8-21-04 After having the Blob50 laugh at me it's time to get serious about pinch training. The goal is to hoist it Christmas morning. Previously I said that my training weapon of choice would be the TTK but after thinking about it I think my 5.5 inch pinch block would be better. I think 55 to 60lbs on this will translate into a Blob50 lift. 5.5 inch pinch block 25x1 30x1 35x1 37.5x1 40x1 42.5x1 42.5x1 45x0: about half lockout 45x0: no movement 45x0: about half lockout LH 25x1 30x1 35x1 37.5x1 40x0 40x1 42.5x0 42.5x1 45x0: a little movement 45x0: a little movement Notes: My work on the TTK has helped TREMENDOUSLY. My previous best with this block was a little movement with 35lbs. I tore a nice big chunk out of my left thumb on my last set and one more set with my right would've done the same thing. In the future I think I'll wear work gloves, which I"m sure will drastically drop my poundages. I'm going to use the TTK until my thumb heals as it obviously has quite a carry-over on this particuliar block. I've found that if I leave my pointer off and just grip with three fingers and my thumb I can get more of my hand on the block and lift heavier weights. Any blobpros have any thoughts on this....Will I be able to use this method on the blob or am I setting myself up for failure by training with a technique that won't be applicable on the blob shape? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 (edited) edit Signed in under buddies name: Josh log looks good buddy. Looks like your hitting crush 2xwk. How do you like that frequency? You will kill the mm1! Austin Edited August 25, 2004 by JamesG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 8-25-04 Thanks Austin, I hope so. To be honest I just try to train crush at least once a week and more if I'm feeling strong. I guess I"m training instinctively or just being plain lazy Warmup: oc on filed #2 MM1dud: 5 attempts all at about 1/8 MM2dud: 10 attempts: 5 closes, 2 of them I just killed it, 5 misses by credit card LH ISG: 12,7: 10 attempts, 2 closes, 8 at about 1/8 ISG: 12,6: 9 closes 1 miss mixed and matched inverted and regular grip No set filed #2: 9 reps righty, 3 reps lefty Last two fingers ISG:1,7 3 closes, 1,8 miss by 1/4, 1,8 by 1/8, repped out on 1,4 with no set 4 reps ISG LH: 1,7 two closes and 1 miss, 1,8 miss by 1/4, repped out on 1,4 with no set 2 reps 5.5 inch HM pinch block: wore my pair of heavy work gloves today. Uh yeah...this was a whole different ballgame. Very humbling. 35:failed 25:failed 10: lockout 20:lockout 22.5:lockout 22.5 plus choker washer x2 attempts: failed no movement 22.5: lockout 22.5: failed no movement 22.5: partial lockout 22.5: partial lockout left the same except I got full lockouts on the last two sets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 8-26-04 Felt like doing some pinch work 5.5 inch HM block with heavy workgloves RH: 20x3/4 lockout, 22.5 x3 attempts no movement, 20 x2 attempts no movement LH: same Alrighty...that sucked on to something else Hub RH: 60 failed, 60 little movement, 60 locked out LH: started to rip the thumb open so I nixed it Tried to do 3 of my standard 25's and got nowhere. They're from Wal-Mart and just SLICK with that bastardized hammertone paint. I even tried it with the IM loading pin in the middle and got nowhere TTK RH: 10x5, 15x3, 20x1, 20x1 LH: same Pinch is sucking tonight maybe I'm not recovered from last night on to some plate curls... Plate curls: performed with standard weights with IM loading pin through middle. I did concentration curls with these to ensure no swing. I really like doing the concentration curls...thank you Sixgun. Warmup: plate wrist curl with a 25 for 2-3 reps RH: 25+10x3, 25+10x3, 25+10+5x1, 25+10+5x1, 25+10+5x1 LH: 25+10X3, 25+10x2, 25+10x0x3 attempts, 25+5x0, 25x2 NOTE: Weights don't include IM loading pin weight Not bad, I haven't done any plate curling or plate wrist curling for quite awhile so I didn't really know what to expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 8-29-04 waiting for the wife to get ready for a BBQ we were going to I decided to putz around with the grip toys. I put 50 pounds on my IM loading pin, grabbed the top end of it and did hammer curls with it. I was doing sets of 5-8 reps about 5 sets per arm. Pretty good pump. Could be a good grip exercise with heavier weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 8-30-04 ISG warmup MM1dud: 5 negative crushes...thought I'd try something different MM2dud: 4 attempts at 1/8, closed the last one 04 #3: 5 closes ISG last 2 fingers: 1,7 closed, 1,7 closed, 1,8 x3 attempts at about 1/8 filed #2 no set: 10 reps LH ISG: 15 attempts at 7,12: closed 5 of them, 10 around 1/4-1/8 ISG last two fingers: 1,7 closed, 1,7 closed, 1,8 3 attempts around 1/4 filed #2 no set: 0 reps 5.5 inch HM block with heavy workgloves 15x1 20x1 22.5x1 22.5x1 25 x0 25 little movement 25x0 22.5 little movement same for left Softball lift 60x1 62.5x1 87.5x0 60 for 5 sec 60 for 10 Left same except last set was only a 5 count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted September 2, 2004 Author Share Posted September 2, 2004 9-1-04 Hit some plate wrist curls after legs warmup with 25: 5 reps per hand RH 35x1.5: first rep was easy but I couldn't quite lockout the second?? 37.5x0x4: 4 attempts with this, just couldn't quite lock it out. I cheated the remaining ROM up and then performed a negative holding the back of my hand at parallel to the ground for 3-5 seconds 25x10 LH 30x0x2: performed negatives as described above 25x8 25x6 25x5 25x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 9-4-04 did a quick one today while I was waiting for the wife to get out of the bathroom so I could clean up warmup 04#3 MM1dud: credit card then negative, 1/8 then negative, 1/8 then negative MM2dud: 2 closes, 1 at credit card 04#3: 2 closes, played around with the credit card method for grins and I'm still a healthy 1/4 of an inch away, yet I can close the MM2dud almost on command....hmmm LH ISG: 6 attempts on 7,12 setting, 2 closes, 4 around 1/4-1/8 04#3: 1/4 poor attempt, credit card thought I had it, 1/8 5.5 inch HM pinch block: used a sanding block to round off the edges so I could get rid of the work gloves. Still nothing like the blob but doesn't have sharp edges anymore. warmup 25 35 40x0 40x0 37.5 37.5 37.5 partial lockout left same Not too good but I was rushing trying to get in as much as I could before she got out Later in the day... picked up a 2 inch pony clamp at Home Depot for 1.19 and did negatives on it while riding in the car all day running errands(the wife drove). Did well over 20 sets my thumbs are toast. This is MUCH harder than my little black plastic one. I can close it for almost 30 reps and I can't fully close this new one. Best 1.19 I ever spent. Picked up an 8lb sledge so I could remove some concrete in the front( ) at least that's how I sold it to the wife. 5 sets of 5 on sledge rotations a little more than halfway down the handle, 2 sets of 1 levering to the back at full handle length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 9-5-04 Did some IM loading pin hammer curls(grip up on end away from weight) while I was waiting on the wife to get ready 50x5 60x3 65x3 70x1 75x1 80x to 90 degrees couldn't lock out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 9-5-04 Did another 12 sets with the 2inch pony clamp while watching tv through the evening. I did mostly negatives and fought it all the way out. I also added a large rubberband. Next week I'm going to wrap it twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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