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2022/06/10

 

Grippers

RH: 4x1 CoC#3 (unrated) choked to GHP block width (1.5")
Barely, but missed two.
LH: 4x1 U-shaped 1.2" parallel adjustable gripper RGC ~137
Missed two.

RH/LH: 4x1 GD Iron 90, level 5, narrow spread, without extension, handles touching
I didn't push the handles together for the set, just kept the handles in position. 
Missed two with LH.

GD Iron 90, level 5, narrow spread, pinkies at the middle of extension, handles touching
RH: 3x4
Missed the last rep of the last set. 
LH: 3x3
Same with LH. 

RH/LH: 1x8 GD Iron 90, level 4, narrow spread, without extension, handles touching

 

Wrist Developer 2 (suedes)

WD2 Orange spring Level 7 (3-3)
Both hand positions: 2x10
WD2 Orange spring Level 10 (4-4)
Both hand positions: 1x8
WD2 Orange spring Level 13 (5-5)
Both hand positions: 3x3

All above waist level, controlled reps. I'm right-handed and this was harder with my right hand in the front position. I think I will really like this tool. Honestly, I wanted to go for a higher level but I'm getting paranoid about my elbows so I stopped. 

Maybe I'll do some extensor work with rubber bands later when watching a movie with wife. 

 

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2022/06/11

DU bending (singles)

Single corduras:

- 5x CRS (S45C) 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)

These were easy, except the last bar. It was from a previous batch which was super hard for this diameter. Next time I will try some high-carbon 9/32" drill rods in corduras.
 

3/4 leathers (not suedes):

- CRS (SS400) HEX 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)

First time trying this 3/4 wrap thing. I wanted to do some more but no time. 

 

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2022/06/13

 

Grippers + forearms (for recovery)

 

Light gripper workout with some wrist curls in the end. I decided not to go heavy today and give my hands a little bit more time to recover.

 

RH/LH: 3x4 Silarukov-1 adjustable replica from parallel (6-10)
RH/LH: 2x10 GD Iron 90, level 4, narrow spread, without extension, handles touching

 

Thumbless wrist curls 5x24
Reverse wrist curls 3x24

With rolling pin and bands.

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2022/06/14

DU bending (doubles of cordura + leather, 1.65" on 5/16" bar)

 

Warmup:
- CRS (SS400) 9/32" x 6.3" (7.1mm x 160mm)
- CRS (SS400) 9/32" x 6" (7.1mm x 150mm)
- Grade 4.8 bolt 5/16" x 6" (8mm x 150mm)

 

Main:
- Grade 12.9 bolt 15/64" x 6" (6mm x 150mm)
A bolt of this diameter looked ridiculous in doubles haha. Wasn't hard at all. It was 7" originally, and I cut it down to 6". Btw if anybody ever tries such a high grade bolt in this small diameter: cut down the threads because it will snap. It snapped on me not long ago (huge pop) and my wrist didn't particularly like it... But anyway, I don't think I'll ever buy this again, terrible cost performance. I still have one, but that's it. 

 

- Horrido Stainless A4-70 bolt (SS304) 5/16" x 6" (8mm x 150mm)
My hands slipped a little but easy. 

 

- Horrido Stainless A2-70 bolt (SS303) 5/16" x 6" (8mm x 150mm)
Easy. I didn't do a cert video because this wouldn't change my position in the Horrido list. And currently, I'm not interested in sub 6" bends, I just want to bend harder bolts. Yesterday night I ordered a bunch of 8.8 bolts from @Horrido

 

- Stainless bolt 5/16" x 6" (8mm x 150mm)
Wouldn't say it was particularly hard, but this felt the hardest among the bolts. Maybe my wrists started to get tired, or it was SS316 which has Molybdenum in the alloy. But I bought this bolt locally and unfortunately all I know is it's stainless. 

 

- 2x CRS (SS400) 21/64" x 7" (8.3mm x 180mm) 
Both went down in one hit, but these fat boys were the hardest bends of the session. 

 

- CRS (SS400) 5/16" x 6" (8mm x 150mm)
It passed 40 so it's fine, but I should have hit it one more time. I was tired but still had the endurance for that, so note to me: with shorter bars, hit it one more just to be sure. 

 

Good session! Btw 3 months into bending and I still haven't had any injuries!🙂

 

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2022/06/16

 

Loong workout. Grip-related stuff: thick bar, wrist 

BW was 100.8kg/222lbs

 

- Beltless back squat

3x 185kg/408lbs

4x 175kg/386lbs

5x 165kg/364lbs 

6x 155kg/342lbs

7x 145kg/320lbs

8x 140kg/309lbs

I warmed up my shoulders for like 20 mins, put warming gel on them and it was kinda okay. I'm 32, and honestly, my muscle recovery is the same as it was 10 years ago. Strength and strength endurance is also there. But nowadays I have to warm up my shoulders really, really properly before squats and pullups. 

 

- Fat gripz extreme (2.75") double overhand deadlift

2x1 100kg/220lbs

3x1 95kg/209lbs

3x3 90kg/198lbs

Definitely experiencing the newbie gains here.

 

- Fat gripz extreme (2.75") double overhand thumbless deadlift

5x2 90kg/198lbs

Not the best weight choice, it was a little bit too easy but 3 reps would have been too much for 5 sets.

 

- Band assisted one-handed neutral grip pullups

10x1 both hands

I assisted the pulls with my other hand grabbing a resistance band looped over the handle.

The best sets were 6 and 7, and the worst was 1-3 because my shoulders hurt a lot at the beginning. I warmed up properly, but the squats... Note to myself for progression: I used my long yellow band looped over twice, and grabbed it at the lowest position.

 

- Kettlebell wrist deadlifts

RH/LH: 1x10 32kg/70.5lbs

RH: 2x6 40kg/88.2lbs)

LH: 2x4 40kg/88.2lbs)

LH is so clumsy when releasing it back. A few reps were ugly on the way down.

 

- WD2 (suedes) in DU position for recovery

Orange spring (1-1), (1,2), (2,2), (2,3), (3,3)

Really just pumping blood with either a lot of reps (lower levels), or doing it really slowly (3-3). Nothing intense.

 

- Wrist pronation with bands for recovery

Just a lot of reps for 3 sets.

 

This was quite long. Later I cooked a lot of beef in tallow and ate it all in two huge sandwiches. 😄

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2022/06/17

 

Braced bending (doubles)

 

- CRS (SS400) 5/16" x 7" (8mm x 180mm)
- CRS (S45C) SQUARE 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)
- 2x CRS (SS400) 23/64" x 7.5" (9mm x 190mm)

Wouldn't say this felt super easy today, but no problem, quite fast. 
- Bolt 3/8" x 7.7" (9.5mm x 195mm)
Much easier than the 23/64" CRS, material was just softer.

 

- Bolt 29/64" x 11.8" (11.5mm x 300mm) - fail
I kinked it on my knee to ~30 degrees pretty quickly, but it pretty much just stuck there and I couldn't kink it enough to put it inside my thighs effectively (in 5 minutes). Maybe I should have started with this, but I think it wouldn't have made much of a difference. This would be no problem if HRS, but bolts are just too springy at this diameter. TL;DR: I'm weak 😂. Btw on the label it was 1/2" but this is a big fat lie, only 29/64". 

 

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2022/06/18

 

Grippers
Meh workout, hands were too tired.

 

RH: GHP #7 (unrated) 1.5" block attempt
Failed. I'm not there yet. At least not today. 
LH: Standard Fe (RGC 134) 1.5" block attempt
Same with LH. 

 

RH: 3x1 GHP #7 (unrated) MMS
This felt harder today than usual. One miss. 
LH: 3x1 Standard Fe (RGC 134) MMS
Missed two. Setting the gripper really wasn't my forte today.  

 

RH: 4x1 Standard Ti adjustable filed (set to RGC 143) choked to 35mm (1.37")
I would have no problem with this rating at this distance, but filed handle is just so uncomfortable at the close. Missed two. Definitely getting a normal handle next time I order from CPW. 
LH: Same but assisted with RH for the close part

 

RH: 1x16 GG4 x CPW (RGC 115) deep set fast reps
LH: 1x9 GG4 x CPW (RGC 115) deep set fast reps

 

Wrist Developer 2 (suedes)
All reps were done in both hand positions. 


30x Orange spring Level 1 (1-1)
20x Orange spring Level 2 (1-2)
15x Orange spring Level 4 (2-2)
10x Orange spring Level 7 (3-3)
5x Orange spring Level 10 (4-4)

5x CROM spring Level 6 (1-1)
This was easier with my LH in the front. Video is with my RH in the front position. I tried to do it controlled and focusing on the front hand movement rather than pushing it a lot with my rear hand. But I'm still figuring out the device.
I had to control myself not to do more reps or try a harder level... but I think once per week this kind of volume is still safe for me. 

 

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2022/06/19

 

DU bending (single corduras)
Mainly volume bending, nothing super intense. Fun session.

 

- CRS (SS400) HEX 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)
- Horrido Stainless A4-70 bolt (SS304) 5/16" x 7" (8mm x 180mm)
I hit the A4 twice just to be sure, but it was past 40 degrees after the first hit. These two are in the video.

 

- 6x Drill rod (SK95) 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)
- 6x CRS (SS400) 9/32" x 7" (7.1mm x 180mm)

 

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On 6/16/2022 at 6:10 AM, matek said:

2022/06/16

 

Loong workout. Grip-related stuff: thick bar, wrist 

BW was 100.8kg/222lbs

 

- Beltless back squat

3x 185kg/408lbs

4x 175kg/386lbs

5x 165kg/364lbs 

6x 155kg/342lbs

7x 145kg/320lbs

8x 140kg/309lbs

I warmed up my shoulders for like 20 mins, put warming gel on them and it was kinda okay. I'm 32, and honestly, my muscle recovery is the same as it was 10 years ago. Strength and strength endurance is also there. But nowadays I have to warm up my shoulders really, really properly before squats and pullups. 

 

- Fat gripz extreme (2.75") double overhand deadlift

2x1 100kg/220lbs

3x1 95kg/209lbs

3x3 90kg/198lbs

Definitely experiencing the newbie gains here.

 

- Fat gripz extreme (2.75") double overhand thumbless deadlift

5x2 90kg/198lbs

Not the best weight choice, it was a little bit too easy but 3 reps would have been too much for 5 sets.

 

- Band assisted one-handed neutral grip pullups

10x1 both hands

I assisted the pulls with my other hand grabbing a resistance band looped over the handle.

The best sets were 6 and 7, and the worst was 1-3 because my shoulders hurt a lot at the beginning. I warmed up properly, but the squats... Note to myself for progression: I used my long yellow band looped over twice, and grabbed it at the lowest position.

 

- Kettlebell wrist deadlifts

RH/LH: 1x10 32kg/70.5lbs

RH: 2x6 40kg/88.2lbs)

LH: 2x4 40kg/88.2lbs)

LH is so clumsy when releasing it back. A few reps were ugly on the way down.

 

- WD2 (suedes) in DU position for recovery

Orange spring (1-1), (1,2), (2,2), (2,3), (3,3)

Really just pumping blood with either a lot of reps (lower levels), or doing it really slowly (3-3). Nothing intense.

 

- Wrist pronation with bands for recovery

Just a lot of reps for 3 sets.

 

This was quite long. Later I cooked a lot of beef in tallow and ate it all in two huge sandwiches. 😄

Nice work again on the KB wrist Dl - Impressive!

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10 minutes ago, Kluv#0 said:

Nice work again on the KB wrist Dl - Impressive!

Thanks! I hope I get more reps next week... Or super clean reps. 

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2022/06/20

Grippers

 

- U-shaped 1.2" parallel adjustable gripper
I think I will get the most of this device if I set it to ~20mm (so about MMS) with my other hand.
Like in the video attached. Not entirely (like a choked gripper), but kinda eliminates the setting part of the close. 

- Set to RGC ~147
RH: 3x2
Missed one of the second reps.
LH: 3x1 as far as I could
I was really close. I might actually closed one but I'm not sure so won't count.
- Set to RGC ~137
RH: 3x2
Barely missed a second rep.
LH: 3x1
Missed one. 

 

- GD Iron 90, level 5, narrow spread, pinkies at the middle of extension, handles touching
RH/LH: 4x4
This felt much easier with my LH, I actually missed a 3rd rep with RH and had to reset the gripper to finish the set. Probably because my RH worked more than LH up to this point. 

 

- A few sets of high rep reverse wrist curls and ulnar deviations with light bands
This is just for recovery.

 

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2022/06/21

 

DU bending (doubles of cordura + leather)
Obviously I wasn't recovered from the volume bending in singles from 2 days ago. So not a lot of volume today.

 

Warmup:
- 2x CRS (S45C) 9/32" x 7" (7mm x 180mm)
- CRS (SS400) 5/16" x 7.5" (8mm x 190mm)

Main:
- 10 mins ISOs for the kink (some impossible bar, irrelevant)
I was smoked after this, but it was good practice.
- 3x CRS (SS400) 21/64" x 7" (8.3mm x 180mm) 
First and second bar went down in one hits, the third took three. I'm happy I can consistently replicate this even if I'm not recovered. These should be at the really high 400s or low 500s btw.

 

And I found this is a much better metric to measure progression, compared to cutting down stuff. Shorter version of the same stuff is harder for sure, and the 15%/0.5" rule maybe holds for ratings with a machine/device. But for bending "reality" it feels more like 5-7% (little bit higher in singles). At least for DU. And other peoples' numbers confirm this. Otherwise a bunch of people would be already DU bending 10.9s and a few 12.9s (at 5/16"). 

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2022/06/23

 

I wasn't feeling like doing a lot of volume today, and my wrists hurt from bending so I skipped a couple of exercises.

 

Fat gripz extreme (2.75") double overhand deadlift
- 1x 102.5kg/226lbs 
Barely, but got it. I think this is where my newbie gains stop.
- 3x1 100kg/220.5lbs
Failed to lock out two. I should have rested more. Also, my main problem is that the FGE rolls on the bar, making it much harder. But it is what it is.
- 5x1 95kg/209.4lbs
These felt the best today.
- 3x2 90kg/198.4lbs

 

Neutral grip weighted pullups 
 I really didn't want to do volume today, so I decided just to measure my 1RM. It was a long time since I tested it anyway. BW was 101.4kg/223.5lbs.
 - Warmup up to 41kg/90.4lbs
 - 1x 61kg/134.5lbs
 Easy.
 - 2x1 71kg/156.5lbs
 Wasn't easy but wasn't too bad. After I took a short rest, I did it again just to be sure. 
 - 1x 72.25kg/159.8lbs
 Not sure if I got this as high as my body allows it. But I think it would be no problem if I start with this.  

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Incredible weighted pullups- BEASTMODE!

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6 minutes ago, Kluv#0 said:

Incredible weighted pullups- BEASTMODE!

Thanks a lot! I will try to do reps with 61kg next time, probably ok. 

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You could probably fly with those lats LOL.

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7 hours ago, Bigfoot Grip said:

Almost a 400lb pullup?! Incredible upper body strength man 💪

Thanks a lot! This sounds better than +72kg haha. If we count it this way this is probably the strongest I've ever been. But also looks like I'm not going to rep one arm pullups anytime soon. 😅

7 hours ago, DevilErik said:

You could probably fly with those lats LOL.

Goals!!😂

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2022/06/24

 

Braced bending (short and mid)

 

- HRS 33/64 x 15.75" (13mm x 400mm)
Kinked on knee (with a towel). Super fast, probably below 30 secs. It's so hard to find a good diameter and length for mid bars.

 

- CRS (SS400) 23/64" x 8" (9mm x 200mm)
- CRS (SS400) 25/64" x 9.45" (10mm x 240mm)

Wasn't that hard once I kinked it. The most inconvenient thing about this was the length, I had to kink it at the bottom of my thighs, loosing a ton of leverage so I really had to push it. Gave me some nice bruises.
- 2x CRS (SS400) 23/64" x 7" (9mm x 180mm)

 

- Bolt 29/64" x 11.8" (11.5mm x 300mm)
This was fairly hard to kink it enough (on knee) to be able to put it inside my thighs efficiently. But sweep and crush were easy, similar to that 13mm HRS I did earlier. 
- Bolt 7/16" x 11.8" (11.1mm x 300mm) - kinda fail
I don't know what material is this made of, but it was quite hard to kink (on knee). Skin really started to come off from the top of my hand, so I put it aside. I will finish it next time. 

 

Glasses for scale. 😄
 

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12 hours ago, matek said:

2022/06/24

 

Braced bending (short and mid)

 

- HRS 33/64 x 15.75" (13mm x 400mm)
Kinked on knee (with a towel). Super fast, probably below 30 secs. It's so hard to find a good diameter and length for mid bars.

 

- CRS (SS400) 23/64" x 8" (9mm x 200mm)
- CRS (SS400) 25/64" x 9.45" (10mm x 240mm)

Wasn't that hard once I kinked it. The most inconvenient thing about this was the length, I had to kink it at the bottom of my thighs, loosing a ton of leverage so I really had to push it. Gave me some nice bruises.
- 2x CRS (SS400) 23/64" x 7" (9mm x 180mm)

 

- Bolt 29/64" x 11.8" (11.5mm x 300mm)
This was fairly hard to kink it enough (on knee) to be able to put it inside my thighs efficiently. But sweep and crush were easy, similar to that 13mm HRS I did earlier. 
- Bolt 7/16" x 11.8" (11.1mm x 300mm) - kinda fail
I don't know what material is this made of, but it was quite hard to kink (on knee). Skin really started to come off from the top of my hand, so I put it aside. I will finish it next time. 

 

Glasses for scale. 😄
 

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Nice bending...  I just got some 1/4'' by 6 Grade 5 and Grade 8 bolts from Mcmaster Carr. I'm excited to try bending something besides 60d nails.  Bending just still kill my tendons and elbows.

Might give it a go tomorrow.  I don't think I can touch grade 8s.. Maybe braced I could do something.

using the Wrist Developer, what level would you compare bending a 60d nail too? I know actual bending is a whole different ball game.. Just curious.

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1 minute ago, Blacksmith513 said:

Nice bending...  I just got some 1/4'' by 6 Grade 5 and Grade 8 bolts from Mcmaster Carr. I'm excited to try bending something besides 60d nails.  Bending just still kill my tendons and elbows.

Might give it a go tomorrow.  I don't think I can touch grade 8s.. Maybe braced I could do something.

using the Wrist Developer, what level would you compare bending a 60d nail too? I know actual bending is a whole different ball game.. Just curious.

As you said it's really hard to compare, but (using suedes) purely the strength part maybe orange 3-4? I can be wrong though. 

I think if you can bend a few 60ds without long breaks the 1/4" grade 5 should be okay if you really commit. But be careful with full effort reverse if your elbows still hurt...

 

I only have a few months of experience, but short braced bending doesn't bother my elbows at all. Not inside, not outside. Mid and long can be different because you have to row on your knees with almost fully extended arms. As for unbraced, now I'm doing DU two times/week (one in doubles, one in singles), and it never hurts my elbows. I know you had elbow problems in the past, and that you want to do more unbraced bending. Maybe you should give a try to DU. If you do it in single corduras or suedes, it's extremely wrist focused. 

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2 minutes ago, matek said:

As you said it's really hard to compare, but (using suedes) purely the strength part maybe orange 3-4? I can be wrong though. 

I think if you can bend a few 60ds without long breaks the 1/4" grade 5 should be okay if you really commit. But be careful with full effort reverse if your elbows still hurt...

 

I only have a few months of experience, but short braced bending doesn't bother my elbows at all. Not inside, not outside. Mid and long can be different because you have to row on your knees with almost fully extended arms. As for unbraced, now I'm doing DU two times/week (one in doubles, one in singles), and it never hurts my elbows. I know you had elbow problems in the past, and that you want to do more unbraced bending. Maybe you should give a try to DU. If you do it in single corduras or suedes, it's extremely wrist focused. 

With the WD, I've worked up to 3-3 left hand with orange spring rather quickly, but then lost it after my eye surgery, almost back again. So that sounds about right

If i'm feeling it, and fresh I can bend 60d's real easy. Spiral 60ds are even easier and I like to snap them.   I know I shouldn't bend tomorrow but I can't promise I wont.   I was too gungho with bending last fall and gave myself tendonitis in both wrists.  By the time it cleared up and i started making progress I got my eyes surgery. 

I feel like i've been bending for so long yet little progress, it will be cool to try some G5's.. I also have David Hornes beginners kit I forgot about until last week. That has a few bars for braced bending. 

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15 minutes ago, Blacksmith513 said:

With the WD, I've worked up to 3-3 left hand with orange spring rather quickly, but then lost it after my eye surgery, almost back again. So that sounds about right

If i'm feeling it, and fresh I can bend 60d's real easy. Spiral 60ds are even easier and I like to snap them.   I know I shouldn't bend tomorrow but I can't promise I wont.   I was too gungho with bending last fall and gave myself tendonitis in both wrists.  By the time it cleared up and i started making progress I got my eyes surgery. 

I feel like i've been bending for so long yet little progress, it will be cool to try some G5's.. I also have David Hornes beginners kit I forgot about until last week. That has a few bars for braced bending. 

No, I think you should bend tomorrow if it gives you joy. It helps me a lot with stress, seriously. 

Just maybe go easy on the wrist and elbow focused stuff. Put every frustration into short braced bends. It's hard to imagine that would hurt your wrist or elbows (of course if it does somehow, stop). It's the only kind of bending I can safely ignore the pain. I will have the imprint of my knuckles inside my thighs and might lose some skin but that's it. Just make sure you chalk the top of your hand and knuckles properly otherwise you will lose skin very fast 😄

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1 minute ago, matek said:

No, I think you should bend tomorrow if it gives you joy. It helps me a lot with stress, seriously. 

Just maybe go easy on the wrist and elbow focused stuff. Put every frustration into short braced bends. It's hard to imagine that would hurt your wrist or elbows (of course if it does somehow, stop). It's the only kind of bending I can safely ignore the pain. I will have the imprint of my knuckles inside my thighs and might loose some skin but that's it. Just make sure you chalk the top of your hand and knuckles properly otherwise you will loose skin very fast 😄

 I'll plan on bending tomorrow. I normally do it after my main workout. If i'm feeling it i'll do it and report back.

It sure does help with stress. For me, whether it's blacksmithing or bending. Manipulating steel is very fun and relaxing. It's even more fun when you try explaining to people what you do. 

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2022/06/25

 

Wrist Developer 2 (suedes)
Both hand positions with Orange spring then CROM:
(1-1) x20
(2-1) x20
(2-2) x20
(3-3) x10
(4-4) x10
Level 6 (1-1) x1

No issues with my elbows so far, so this week I really tried:
Level 8 (2-1) x10 LH front 
Level 8 (2-1) x8 RH front

Happy about these.
Level 9 (2-2) x1 LH front
It was a loong rep, but got it. Didn't attempt with RH front.

 

Wrist Developer 2 (suedes) in DU position 
Kink practice with the Orange spring. No jumping into it (like I do it with steel), controlled reps.
(1-1) x20
(2-2) x20
(3-2) x20
(3-3) x20
(4-3) x10
(4-4) x10
(4-5) x5
(5-5) 4x5

 

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