dannyboy Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 hey guys i can close the #1 coc 42 times...i FULLY close it. but when i try the #2, i cant even close it once, mind you im very close but still no cigar. i thought if you could close the #1 20 - 25 times it means you can close the #2. any advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Yeah, stop doing reps and concentrate on overcrushes and strapholds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Man Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 you got the sweep down now you need the finishing crush do long negatives on the #1 and #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 If you can do 42 reps, there is NO reason at all to do negatives with that gripper, none. He's right about the 2, do some negatives, but overcrushes with the one are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 strap holds huh....ok will do, correct me if im wrong, strap holds are for eg. a belt with a 10lb at the end, and you try and hold it as long as possible inbetween a coc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 For lighter weight a thin shoe string is better. A ratchet strap is very good too. The thinner the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 and overcrushes, is that basically the same as a hold? sorry for being such a noob. just got my coc about a month ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 shoe string? got ya, what kind of weight do you recomend i do with coc strap hold #1? is 10lb to much? and whats a good time to aim for wth strap holds.....man im a noob!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 a 3lb plate is good to start with, especially with such a thin strap. add another 3lb plate if you can hold the 3lb'er for more than 20 seconds... try to eventually hold 6 or 9lbs for 20 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 thanks hooligan, ill start tonight, dont have weight in the house, so untill i by one, i think ill use a soupcan or somthing like that tonight hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 File down your #1 and do overcrushes/strapholds. BTR will help. Filing My #1 helped me get my #2. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anson Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 how do you file down the #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Do a search. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 That's funny because 40reps is around what i can do on a #1 and i can close a #3 on a good day => i understand your frustration ! Reps are good but only till 5-8 reps, past 10reps you don't build strength anymore Overcrushes on the #1, negatives on the #2, strapholds on the #1, buying an inbetween gripper (a BeefBuilder for example), Filing your #1, all these possibilities should work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 My two cents to this topic: A year ago, I was at 20 reps on the #2. A year ago, I was at about 2 full cm left toward the #3. Today, I'm at 10 reps on the #2 (on a good day). Today, I can close my #3's, cold, a number of times each day. Training for reps makes you good at doing reps. Training max effort attempts at big grippers, makes you good at big grippers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 "Training for reps makes you good at doing reps. " Eric, i find this statement to be true only when you train with a gripper with which can do +8reps. If you can just do 1rep with a gripper, training to close it for 8 reps will build strength that will result in the ability of closing a higher gripper. At least that's what i found. It's amazing you got such a discrepancy on your #2 reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 It's amazing you got such a discrepancy on your #2 reps My body is pure fast-twitch muscle. Any form of high rep, endurance work... I just suck at it. On the other hand, my power and quickness is quite a bit above average, such as O-lifting, jumping, athletics. The same goes for grippers. At one time I was at 3 reps on the #2, when I first closed my #3. Go figure. Eric, i find this statement to be true only when you train with a gripper with which can do +8reps. If you can just do 1rep with a gripper, training to close it for 8 reps will build strength that will result in the ability of closing a higher gripper. True. In the end, I've found my favorite training technique to be hard singles and only hard singles, with ZERO effort on sub-max grippers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 My body is pure fast-twitch muscle. Any form of high rep, endurance work... I just suck at it. It's better than the other way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 There's a few who have it both. Harlan Jacobs, an old lifting budy, ect... Huge guys who can do endurance work all day. "Marathon runner caught in a big-mans body", in Harlan's words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 i think im gunna have to get that kta prog, thanks for the advise also guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted December 26, 2003 Author Share Posted December 26, 2003 yesssss, got the #2 closed now. now its time to work on repping it. btw i didnt try kta yet, i think im gunna wait till all gains stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Hey, nice job DannyBoy. Gorilla Hands and I recommend you get a new #1 because the one you have now is either really weak or your #2 is really tough. Either way, having a tougher #1 is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 I know I'm going against the grain here, but I've responded well to high volume rep work. I'm not trying to down other methods, but I try to get to a point where I can really man-handle a gripper for numerous reps before stepping up to the next gripper. The key though, is the way I perform my reps. I kind of do them the same way I do deadlifts. I set the gripper, close, release and then take my hand completely off the gripper and shake it out a bit and then I repeat the process. Once I get to the point where I feel like I'm dominating that gripper, I start doing negatives with the next one up. This method, combined with a higher number of workouts has really helped my progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gripmaster316 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 If you have just the slightest gap on one gripper try working on one that is one strength higher. I was always 1/16 of an inch with the two in my left hand and when I started training with the 3 I closed the 2 my next grip session. I am not sure if anyone else has suggested that yet but it does help none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nArKeD Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 I find Nathan Holle was spot on when he said "the best form of progression is to develop the discipline to give ever single attempt your all". If you're looking to develop good maximal strength, don't waste your time with attempts that aren't all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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