Centrilius Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Whooops, I meant HG / BC350, not the 500 Pardon the typo Disregard my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Knight Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 One thing Teemu, and this is where we might disagree-Due to the inherent inaccuracy of the calibration method, I think there is a certain tolerance where actually squeezing the gripper is more accurate than calibration- Given someone very experienced with grippers, in which you more than qualify. I was almost disillusioned about calibration one day- I went back and forth with 3-4 grippers, getting +/- 1 pound or so, and really not being confident with my results. Like I have mentioned before, certain factors- knurling, spread, sweep softness among them- make judging the difficulty of grippers that have a close RGC measurement inaccurate, especially given the inaccuracy of the process. I think its good to do both - Calibrate and also try to feel the gripper out - Eric and I have defenitly experienced some interesting results w/calibrating. but before calibrating the grippers we like to guess and see what we think it might calibrate at - see who can get the closest (we're so competitive it's stupid ) and we are guestimating based on comparing the gripper to an already calibrated gripper that we just squeezed. For example - I have a 3.5 that cal'ed at 168 and also an Elite that I was guessing in the high 170's - well it turned out to be 169 - the gripper feels waay harder than the 3.5 - the spreads are about the same so I don't think its that, but what I think it is - and this is something Derek and I were talkin about the other day - have you ever noticed when you have your grippers in a choker that sometimes they look twisted up - the spring? and some grippers don't do that? well - I think sometimes, the way the gripper lies inside the RGC and then the weight is placed on it, the spring doesn't get bound up the same way it would bind if you took that same gripper and closed it with your hand. Your hand creates rotational force/torque on the handles whereas the RGC the weights cause the handles to come straight down - I figured out how much rotational force your hand can actually create because I have an adjustable elite that when I try to tighten that set screw down as hard as I can , when I go to crank hard on it, the handles will some times spin loose no matter how hard I tighten that screw. If I were to tighten that screw then calibrate it - the handles would not loosen because there is no rotational force applied - sounds crazy, but some grippers feel alot harder in comparison to their cal rating if you compair it to another gripper with a similar rating. any of that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yeah, makes sense Paul. PDA measured something like "skew" or the angle of the spring. Calibration is interesting, but a good old fashion squeeze (or a few hundred) can't be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Knight Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yeah, makes sense Paul. PDA measured something like "skew" or the angle of the spring.Calibration is interesting, but a good old fashion squeeze (or a few hundred) can't be replaced. yes indeed Bob P.S. the adjustable elite that I have where the handle was spinning on me doesn't do that on the new adjustables - Aaron has figured out how to create a flat side where the set-screw meets the spring and it doesn't do that anymore - I think I got one of the first batches where that hadn't been discovered yet. If you wanna get better at grippers the adjustables are the way to go - Its like having ten different grippers in one set - just keep adjusting the spring depth making it a little harder each time - they're awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yeah, makes sense Paul. PDA measured something like "skew" or the angle of the spring.Calibration is interesting, but a good old fashion squeeze (or a few hundred) can't be replaced. yes indeed Bob P.S. the adjustable elite that I have where the handle was spinning on me doesn't do that on the new adjustables - Aaron has figured out how to create a flat side where the set-screw meets the spring and it doesn't do that anymore - I think I got one of the first batches where that hadn't been discovered yet. If you wanna get better at grippers the adjustables are the way to go - Its like having ten different grippers in one set - just keep adjusting the spring depth making it a little harder each time - they're awesome Thanks Paul, you just let me know when I can fix that for you. - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Farsmann Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT Any changes to this list lately? What about the RB365N? Has anybody calibrated a VHG yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grippster Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 What? The HG500 is harder than a WC and the Galaxy? I don't think so. I thought that, if anything, it was a little harder than a #4 when unseasoned. A Galaxy was calibrated at 490 pounds, while a #4 comes in at 205. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 What? The HG500 is harder than a WC and the Galaxy? I don't think so. I thought that, if anything, it was a little harder than a #4 when unseasoned. A Galaxy was calibrated at 490 pounds, while a #4 comes in at 205. Where are you reading this? The list rates the HG500 as just above a #4 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grippster Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I was reading the wire sizes. The 500 coil is much bigger than the WC. I guess it's still easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grippster Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 btw I also have a question. How would the new BB Galaxy size up to the RB WT? I'm pretty sure the new Galaxy is harder than the old Grand Galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I was reading the wire sizes. The 500 coil is much bigger than the WC. I guess it's still easier? Yes, the 350 is also larger then the #4 and so on but HG uses a much cheaper steel for their springs then BB and IM so they are easier for their size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grippster Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) Oh alright, that explains it. I always wondered how the #4 could be almost as tough as an HG500 with a noticeably smaller wire. p.s. What about the steel quality for RB grippers? I saw a World's Toughest and the wire doesn't really look that thick. I mean, it does... but not 700IP thick. Edited January 2, 2009 by Grippster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrilius Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I learned here that HG are around the same as Bone Crusher grips, but I now have a question about it. I can close the Bone Crusher 400 roughly about 10 times, but I'm about 1 cm away from closing the HG300. On the massive list of complied grippers, HG400 is easier than the HG350 but harder than the HG300. What's up? Any ideas? I'm still really confused by this. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I learned here that HG are around the same as Bone Crusher grips, but I now have a question about it. I can close the Bone Crusher 400 roughly about 10 times, but I'm about 1 cm away from closing the HG300. On the massive list of complied grippers, HG400 is easier than the HG350 but harder than the HG300. What's up? Any ideas? I'm still really confused by this. Thanks. First off HGs vary ALL OVER the place so you could get a 300 harder then 350, 250 harder then 300, etc. Secondly, 400s tend to season more and the main challenge with them is giant handles, not spring difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griparrayxp Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT Any changes to this list lately? What about the RB365N? Has anybody calibrated a VHG yet? Hey guys gripper number 32 is a bb super master 255? is this right? I have the warren tetting bb master with 250 stamped on it, and by the way I calibrated both my rb260 and t6 250 on my own calibrating device and the t6 250 was 10lb tougher to close than my rb260! I also know this by being able to close the rb260 from a 1-1/4inch choke and barley being able to close the t6 250 from a 3/4 inch choke.......anyways those are my personal grippers I understand the general rating for them may be as stated.....just wandering how the rest of you viewed the two and if the bb super master 255 is a mistake should it be 250? Edited July 29, 2009 by griparrayxp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madknight Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT This has probably been asked, but why is the HG400 lower on the list (#35) than the HG350 (#42)? Is it just a mix up or is this actually true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT This has probably been asked, but why is the HG400 lower on the list (#35) than the HG350 (#42)? Is it just a mix up or is this actually true? The HG400 has thick handles like the HG500, so you don't have to squeeze it as far to close it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madknight Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT This has probably been asked, but why is the HG400 lower on the list (#35) than the HG350 (#42)? Is it just a mix up or is this actually true? The HG400 has thick handles like the HG500, so you don't have to squeeze it as far to close it. Thanks, haha maybe when I can close the 300 I should get the 400 before trying for the 350. Eh, still a long way to go yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griparrayxp Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Thanks, haha maybe when I can close the 300 I should get the 400 before trying for the 350. Eh, still a long way to go yet. Yeah I know what you mean.........everyone says that all the HG's vary so much.....for example I recently calibrated all the grippers I have and this was the result for me (my lowest gripper is my coc1 which I will start at base 0, all other grippers are the pounds more it takes to close above a coc1.) Coc1 = 0 Coc1.5 = +17 RB180 = +21 Coc2 = +36 RB210 = +38 Coc2.5 = +41 RB260 = +49 T6,250 = +67 HG300 = +77 So anyways all this to say that though I don't yet own a coc3 I think that my HG300 is defenitally harder than what simply because most ppl say the RB260 and coc3 are fairly close and my HG300 still takes 28lbs more of pressure to close above my RB260. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madknight Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Any idea where the John Brookfield Grippers fit into this list (without the extension handles I guess)? Also anyone know anything about the quality of these grippers? Are they like a COC with pretty good consistency or are they more like HG's and can vary a lot? 1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griparrayxp Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Any idea where the John Brookfield Grippers fit into this list (without the extension handles I guess)? Also anyone know anything about the quality of these grippers? Are they like a COC with pretty good consistency or are they more like HG's and can vary a lot?1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT All the grippers by Warren Tetting and RB are just as good quality as the coc's and I would argue that RB's grippers may be even a tad better. Anyhow each of the grippers listed here I would say other than the HG's as far as spring quality are all pretty equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Any idea where the John Brookfield Grippers fit into this list (without the extension handles I guess)? Also anyone know anything about the quality of these grippers? Are they like a COC with pretty good consistency or are they more like HG's and can vary a lot?1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT All the grippers by Warren Tetting and RB are just as good quality as the coc's and I would argue that RB's grippers may be even a tad better. Anyhow each of the grippers listed here I would say other than the HG's as far as spring quality are all pretty equal. That depends on how you define 'pretty equal'. I would have to disagree I think. I cant even say what I think about HG's without causing a post moderation event to occur. - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madknight Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Any idea where the John Brookfield Grippers fit into this list (without the extension handles I guess)? Also anyone know anything about the quality of these grippers? Are they like a COC with pretty good consistency or are they more like HG's and can vary a lot?1 IM Guide 60 lbs2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT All the grippers by Warren Tetting and RB are just as good quality as the coc's and I would argue that RB's grippers may be even a tad better. Anyhow each of the grippers listed here I would say other than the HG's as far as spring quality are all pretty equal. So it sounds like in your opinion that the JB grippers would be about the same quality wise? So how do they rank difficulty wise? Like I'm most interested in which JB gripper would be equal to a COC #3 (or close to it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 So it sounds like in your opinion that the JB grippers would be about the same quality wise? So how do they rank difficulty wise? Like I'm most interested in which JB gripper would be equal to a COC #3 (or close to it). I'm guessing you mean RB, not JB? Anyway, I would rank them this way: 1 - Tettings 2 - CoCs 3 - RBs 4 - HGs RBs can season down quite a bit compared to BBs or CoCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madknight Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) So it sounds like in your opinion that the JB grippers would be about the same quality wise? So how do they rank difficulty wise? Like I'm most interested in which JB gripper would be equal to a COC #3 (or close to it). I'm guessing you mean RB, not JB? Anyway, I would rank them this way: 1 - Tettings 2 - CoCs 3 - RBs 4 - HGs RBs can season down quite a bit compared to BBs or CoCs. Haha, good information to know but no I did mean JB grippers. These are the John Brookfield grippers that you can purchase and can come with handle extensions. So same question as before. How do they (the John Brookfield grippers) rank quality wise to the Tettings, CoCs, RBs and HGs. And which JB gripper (without the handle extensions) would be able equivalent to a CoC#3. Edited August 12, 2009 by madknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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