Josh O'Dell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Thanks man, how much harder is the red and grade 8? Are they pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Scibelli Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Thanks man, how much harder is the red and grade 8? Are they pretty close The kink is going to be harder, anywhere from 20-40lbs harder, I'm guessing, but the sweep and crush will be about the same. Also the "M" bar is right underneath the Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwnate Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Thanks man, how much harder is the red and grade 8? Are they pretty close They are reasonably close. It doesn't matter anymore, but when my level was right around both, I actually preferred the Red. The G8 has a springiness to it...the Red stays bent. When tackling the G8...remember to EXPLODE on it. A hesitant hit is actually going to work against you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Ok thanks, Is there anything else that would be good for practice i am going to a rather huge hardware store today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Thanks man, how much harder is the red and grade 8? Are they pretty close I think the length also makes a big difference for some people. Grade 8's are 6 inches long while Red Nails are 7 inches long. A lot of people say you will be able to bend a red nail weeks after bending your first grade 8. I think this applies to people who don't struggle with shoulder flexibility issues. I struggled getting into position with 6 inch steel. I got comfortable with 6 inch steel by using bolts, but when I tried a red it felt much harder because I couldn't even come close to getting the 7 inch length in proper position. For this same reason I bent a blue nail before I bent a yellow nail. If someone has the same issue as me, I wouldn't even recommend bending bolts for that reason (unless you buy 7 inch bolts). I would recommend just sticking with 7 inch length if your goal is the red nail. Some people are different. Your flexibility seems much better than mine Josh. You are already keeping the bar way up high so you may be one of the people who bends a red soon after the grade 8. Just something to keep in mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yea i am actually going lighter on my weight lifting, I dont realy want anymore thickness in my back or shoulders cause it seems to affect my flexibility. I would like to stick in the 10 to 12 reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I bent a Grade 8 a good year and a half before bending a red. Personally I hated bolts and didn't really find them productive for training progression, but everyone is different. The most productive bar for me was 19/64" 0-1 Drill Rod (L's & M's fell pretty quick once I got the technique down). Like Chez said (I said this to him about 100 times :P) longer stock is going to be more productive for progress than shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well i found some 7in 80D nails and 7in spikes and got some CRS 5/16th from Menards dont no if it will be easier or harder than a red but it was cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmiller67 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Any updates Josh? 5/16" HRS is a good facsimile of a red but obviously easier. I used to warm-up with them before testing w/ the red. The kink is similar but the sweep & crush are easier. .. imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yes i bent a peice of the 5/16th CRS yesterday ! i will have the vid up later today i used double wraps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=yCKBtVv9bjU 5/16 CRS this is my best so far, This stuff was stout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Scibelli Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Great bend Josh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=yCKBtVv9bjU 5/16 CRS this is my best so far, This stuff was stout. Great bend dude. That is awesome that you able to find CRS so close by. The only steel close to me other than nails or bolts is HRS and it has a different feel. Those bars are really going to help you get the red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thanks guys, a three foot peice was like 3.50 and i also found 8in 5/16 grade 2 bolts. Also some 7in spikes but there crazy tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmiller67 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Aww man... can't see the vid on mobil. I'll check it when I get home on the PC. Great progress Josh. .. you're looking like the next RED Nail guy bud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmiller67 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Aww man... can't see the vid on mobil. I'll check it when I get home on the PC. Great progress Josh. .. you're looking like the next RED Nail guy bud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thanks man. Im sorry i also don't have access to a computer at the moment i will fix it soon as i can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mitti Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=yCKBtVv9bjU 5/16 CRS this is my best so far, This stuff was stout. Awesome bend Josh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=yCKBtVv9bjU 5/16 CRS this is my best so far, This stuff was stout. Awesome bend Josh!!! Thanks David;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmiller67 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Nice work bud! Work your way down to smaller wraps till you do it with single imps & you're on your way ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Thats my goal and thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acromegaman Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 All I used for a long time were single IMP and I just hammered that bar until it moved and if it moved I didn't stop trying until my hands were bleeding, it was bedtime, or the bar was bent. Sometimes you have to be hardheaded, especially when you're still new to the bending game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I have been doing more movements in my regular workout that help my bending plus some lever work. I plan to get that rednail in single IM pads soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Best advice I was given was to be d exclusively in IMP's. especially as strong as you already are. Just need the technique and hand conditioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh O'Dell Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yea i have only been bending for a couple months, my hands are getting more used to it now. Thanks for the advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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