FrankyBoy Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 In about 7 weeks, on october the 30th, the german grip championship will take place. To force a well documented preparation I decided to start this log. The championship will consist of 5 events: 1. RT lift left+right total 2. Straphold with #2 and 2.5kg for time (one hand only up to now) 3. IM Pinch Grip Block for a left+right total 4. Vertical Bar Lift for a left+right total 5. Appollons Axle Double Overhand Deadlift I have the following goals which I want to reach in the next 7 weeks: 1. RT : 155kg total (340lbs) 2. SH : 45sec on a RB210 with 2.5kg 3. IM PGB: 50kg in total (110lbs) 4. Vertical Bar: 200kg in total (440lbs) 5. A.A. Deadlift: 145kg (308lbs) I'm using my RB210 because its the closest gripper to the #2 used in the contest. The vertical bar sucks on my left. This is the only event in which my left is still much weaker than my right due to my injury last year. Therfore the low number on that device. I'll train: For the RT with the RT, RH from Clay, Holle-it up inch replica for the SH: Doing SHs with the RB210 and higher Grippers, Hardy Handshake for the PGB: Using different blocks, the blobette and the TTK for the vertical bar: only with that device, perhaps sledge hammers for the A.A. : using an A.A. replica and the Holle-it up inch replica I'll try to do the whole contest each week so I get a feeling of doing all events in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Good luck with your goals Franky! I bet you'll reach them all. How close are you on the Apollon's Axle goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 Good luck with your goals Franky! I bet you'll reach them all. How close are you on the Apollon's Axle goal? 130kg or 286lbs. Thats not my favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian Kellersmann Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Nice goals. Good luck with your training, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 09/14/04 1. Training Appollons Axle Uh, should have started with bending lately. Yesterday the package with 22lbs of nails arrived. Of course I couldn't resist. And of course the bending didn't pay off today. 2x1x50kg (110lbs) 1x90kg (198lbs) right wrist and right hand extensors started to say 'HELLO' (the bending yesterday) 1x110kg (242lbs) 1x120kg (264lbs) 0x130kg (286lbs) wide grip didn't move 0x130kg (286lbs) sumo style didn't move 1x130kg (286lbs) narrower grip, full deadlift but couldn't pull my shoulders back 1x120kg (264lbs) I stopped my workout here. Actually I wanted to some lockouts with the axle too and some one hand lifts with the Holle-it up inch replica but I better do a little rest for my right forearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 09-15-04 Training for the RT using the Rolling Handle from Clay Edgin. My workout is based on the following program consisting of 8 sets: 5x100% 5x100% 12x80% 5x100% 25x60% 12x80% 25x60% 5x100% The 100% weight is the 5RM weight. The first number denotes the goal reps that set. If a 6th rep could have be performed in the first set, the weight is increased for the next workout but the 6th rep isn't performed in that set. Left 5x40 (5x) too easy, so I increased the weight for the second set 5x42.5 (3x) this will be the 100%-weight for the next workout 12x34 (11x) 5x42.5 (3x) 25x25.5 (22x) 12x34 (10x) 25x25.5 (20x) 5x42.5 (0x) Right 5x47.5 (5x) way too easy 5x50 (5x) still too easy, next workout will start with 52.5kg 12x40 (12x) 5x50 (5x) 25x30 (21x) 12x40 (11x) 25x30 (20x) 5x50 (2x) Fingers are hurting, forearms are burning. Will be very interesting to see how that training transfers to the 1RM on the RT. Start weights for the next workout will be: 42.5kg lefty and 52.5kg righty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagual Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 (edited) Seems wierd to have a deadlift, no matter that it's a thickbar deadlift, in a grip contest. A deadlift lockout sure, but a regular deadlift would be limited by backstrength rather than gripstrength. All the best, and good luck though Edited September 15, 2004 by nagual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Seems wierd to have a deadlift, no matter that it's a thickbar deadlift, in a grip contest. A deadlift lockout sure, but a regular deadlift would be limited by backstrength rather than gripstrength.All the best, and good luck though Thanks. In the contests I attended the Apollons Axle Deadlift with the double overhand grip was always limited by grip strength. Back strength may only be an issue if you have zero experience with deadlifting and have already quite strong hands. You can very easily train your back so that its significantly stronger than your hands, at least when using the DO grip. Even when using an Olympic Bar the deadlifting is limited by the grip strength for me. Only using the DO grip of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 09-16-04 Today I tested the Straphold with 2.5kg. In the contest a very hard #2 will be used. The closest gripper to that one is my RB210. SH w/ RB210 and 2.5kg: 36s SH w/ RB210 and 2.5kg: 30s I've a new most-hated exercise. The most difficult on those Strapholds was the opening of the hand afterwards. I took about one minute in a hot-water bath to open the hand again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian Kellersmann Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Good time! The 210 is a little bit harder than Hermann's #2, isn't it? One discipline Thomas won't win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Florian: I guess that my RB210 is even a bit easier than the contest #2. 09-17-04 Vertical Bar: Warmup: 2x2x40kg with left and right Singles with left and right: Some weights weren't attempted with both hands. There a dash is used. All weights in kgs. 60.0: (1x,1x) 70.0: (1x,1x) 80.0: (1x,1x) 85.0: (1x,-) PR 87.5: (1x,-) PR 90.0: (0cm, 1x) 100 : (-,1x) 105 : (-,3cm) 90.0: (1x,-) PR 102.5: (-,1x) PR 105 : (-,1x) PR 92.5: (1x,-) PR 107.5: (-,0cm) 95.0: (1cm, -) 110 : (-,0cm) 107.5: (-,0.5cm) Total: 92.5kg + 105kg= 197.5kg. Hmm, obviously my goal of 200kg was set too low. My previous best was 180kg in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 18, 2004 Author Share Posted September 18, 2004 09-18-04 I obviously need help. Again I couldn't resist again today and took all my unfinished nails out of the box and killed them all like nothing. However that wasn't that clever regarding the following workout. Pinch-Day IM PGB 10kg: L+R 1x 15kg: L+R 1x 17.5kg: L+R 1x 20kg: L+R 1x 22.5kg: L+R 0x Selfmade Wooden PGB (70mm) 30kg: L 0x, R 1x 25kg: L+R 1x 27.5lg: L 0x, R 1x cleaned the block from chalk 27.5kg: L+R 1x 30kg: L 0x, R 1x 35kg R 1x Blobette & TTK R: Blobette w/ 39lbs : 3x1 L: TTK 5kg, 7.5kg, 7.5kg Negatives L+R double handed full ROM reps w/ TTK: 1x5x7.5kg Wooden Block 70mm 25kg: L+R:1x IM PGB 22.5kg: L 0x, R 1x In total: 42.5kg on the PGB from IM. Quite a long way to the 50kg. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 09-20-04 Contest simulation Oh boy theres still so much to learn. My forearms are still sore from my bending tests the last days. So its a must not to bend anymore before the contest. 1. Event Rolling Thunder I cleaned and oiled the RT-handle before the event which made the whole thing a lot more tougher than usual. Lifts were performed according the strict contest rules, i.e. no handle tilt and lowering the RT under full control of the weight. 1x40 Warmup 60.0kg 1xL, 1xR 62.5kg 0xL, 1xR 67.5kg 1xR 62.5kg 0xL 70.0kg 0xR Oiling the inner axle takes at least 5kg from the possible weight being lifted. New goals under these conditions: Left: 65kg, Right: 72.5kg 2. Event: Straphold w/ RB210 and 2.5kg 30secs, that exercise hurts like hell. 3. Event: IM Pinch Grip Block 15.0kg 1xL, 1xR 17.5kg 1xL, 1xR 20.0kg 0xL, 1xR 22.5kg 1xR 4. Event Vertical Bar Warmup 1x40kg 1x60kg Attempts: 80kg 1xL, 1xR 85kg 0xL, 1xR 85Kg 1xL 90kg 0xL, 1xR 95kg 1xR 100kg 0xR Hands already suffer from the previous events. 5. Event Apollons Axle Warmup 1x50kg 1x90kg Attempts: 1x110kg 1x125kg I guess I need more rest before the contest simulations. Therefore I will do this simulations only every second week. Before those tests I will do a 2 days rest. So I will only have two further contest simulations. Probably on october 3rd and october 17th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 The RT should not be the opening event as it zaps too much strength from the other ones IMO. We have always put it last or second last (bending being the last one if this is included). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 The RT should not be the opening event as it zaps too much strength from the other ones IMO. We have always put it last or second last (bending being the last one if this is included). Thanks Mikael, I highly appreciate your input. I totally agree with the RT-opening. Together with the Straphold (for time!) as second event there is really no more left afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Franky, it looks like you're doing pretty well in the contest preparation department. Are there weight classes in the grip comp? And if so, which one will you be in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Franky, it looks like you're doing pretty well in the contest preparation department. Are there weight classes in the grip comp? And if so, which one will you be in? Hmm, I wasn't that satisfied with my results but of course I did all events in an unsual little amount of time. (~ 90min). No there won't be any weight classes. I'm at 200lbs right now. Other competitors will be from 165lbs to 385lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 09-22-04 Rolling Thunder and Vertical Bar Training Clays Rolling Handle 40.0kg: 1xL, 1xR 45.0kg: 5xL, 1xR 47.5kg: 1xL 50.0kg: 1xL, 1xR 52.5kg: 0xL 55.0kg: 1xR 57.5kg: 1xR 58.75kg: 1xR PR 60.0kg: 1xR PR High-Volume for the Left: 5x45kg 5x45kg 12x36kg 4x45kg (goal was 5) 25x27kg 12x36kg 25x27kg 2x45kg (goal was 5) I did no further training with my right on the Rolling Handle due to my no-set workout yesterday. Vertical Bar 40kg: 1xL, 1xR 60kg: 1xL, 1xR 70kg: 1xL, 1xR 80kg: 1xL, 1xR 85kg: 0xL 85kg: 1xL 90kg: 1xL 95kg: 0xL, 1xR 100kg: 1xR 105kg: 0xR (4cm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian Kellersmann Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Clays Rolling Handle60.0kg: 1xR PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 09-23-04 Pinch I'm using three wooden home-made pinch grip blocks with different sizes: 48mm or 1.9" (S), 72mm or 2.8" (M) and 96mm or 3.8"(L) I used a raising bar system testing each block on each weight with both hands: 15kg (33lbs) S : 1xL,1xR M : 1xL,1xR L : 1xL,1xR 20kg (44lbs) S : 1xL,1xR M : 1xL,1xR L : 1xL,1xR 22.5kg (50lbs) S : 1xL,1xR M : 1xL,1xR L : 1xL,1xR 25kg (55lbs) S : 1xL,1xR M : 1xL,1xR L : 1xL,1xR 27.5kg (61lbs) S : 0xL,1xR M : 0xL (10"),1xR L : 0xL,1xR 30kg (66lbs) M : 1xR 35kg (77lbs) M : 0xR IM Pinch Grip Block 20kg (44lbs) : 1xL, 1xR 22.5kg (50lbs): 0xL, 1xR Holds L: 15kg (33lbs): 20secs R: 17.5kg (38.5lbs): 10secs 2 handed Plate Pinch using two plates on a PVC pipe and a loadable dumbbell through the plates. 42.5kg (94lbs): 1x 52.5kg (116lbs): 1x 62.5kg (138lbs): 1x 72.5kg (160lbs): 0x 67.5kg (149lbs): 1x 1 hand plate pinch, same apparatus as described above Right 22.5kg (50lbs): 1x 32.5kg (72lbs): 1x 37.5kg (83lbs): 0x Left 22.5kg (50lbs): 1x 27.5kg (61lbs): 1x 32.5kg (72lbs): 0x Good workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 09-24-04 Apollons Axle and Vertical Bar Day Apollons Axle 2x1x50kg 1x90kg 1x110kg 1x120kg 0x125kg lost balance 1x125kg Vertical Bar 40kg 1xR,1xL 60kg 1xR,1xL 80kg 1xR,1xL 85kg 1xR,1xL 90kg 1xR,1xL 95kg 1xL PR 100kg 1xR,0xL 110kg 0xR 97.5kg 1xL PR 105kg 1xR 107.5kg 0xR Total: 97.5kg + 105kg = 202.5kg Holle-it-up Inch Replica All Lifts were performed in the easiest position. Lifted height was 2". 20kg: 1xR,1xL 40kg: 1xR,1xL 50kg: 1xR,1xL 55kg: 1xR,1xL 60kg: 1xR,1xL 65kg: 1xR,0xL 70kg: 1xR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I used to do 1's myself for the longest time but it leaves you no where to go when you get close to your limit. I'd suggest triples and aiming for 80% of your one rep max, then 85% and so on until the last session before the competition has you doing 100% for three reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 Thanks Steve! I will modify my next workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 26, 2004 Author Share Posted September 26, 2004 09-26-04 Thick Bar Training Apollons Axle 1x50kg 1x90kg 2x1x110kg 1x120kg (0x, Sumo grip test) 4x1x120kg Holle-it-up inch replica hardest position Left (including bar) 1x22.5kg 1x32.5kg 1x37.5kg (30cm) 3x1x37.5kg 1x35kg Right: 1x35kg 1x42.5kg 1x42.5kg (20cm) 1x42.5kg (20cm) Rolling Thunder 1RM-Test Left: 61.25kg Right:68.72kg I'll using an advanced GVT-version every 3rd day. Goal 10 sets with 5 reps of same weight in the first session. I used 85% of the 1RM as weight today: Left: 52kg Right: 58.5kg This will be the 100% weight for the GVT. Next session I'll use 105% for 10x4 then 110% for 10x3. Then (in the 4th session) I'll restart the GVT with 10x5 but using 105% and so on. Results: Left: 5,5,5,5,5,3,3,3,3,2 Right: 5,5,5,5,4,4,3,4,2,2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 09-27-04 Florian gave me a call today and asked for a meeting today. So we first went to my gym did some benches and squats and made a gripper demonstration afterwards. The guys there were stunned to say at least. Then we went home and did some other grip stuff where Florian has still to take care of his right forearm. My best lifts: straphold 35s w/ RB210 and 2.5kg w/ right one hand pinch 35kg (77lbs) one hand pinch w/ right two hand pinch 72.5kg (160lbs) vertical bar 100kg (220lbs) w/ left 112.5kg (248lbs) w/ right 117.5kg (259lbs) w/ right got some air about 1". RT an oiled one, very hard 71.25kg (157lbs) w/ right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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