SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Had a pretty awesome pump after doing the wrist curls! Weighing 128 kg at the moment. I am going to cut down a little bit to 122 kg. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 How tall are you? I would never have guessed your were 128kg. Pinkey pad is looking huge in that pic also 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Stephen Ruby said: How tall are you? I would never have guessed your were 128kg. Pinkey pad is looking huge in that pic also I am 2.04 m I think that is 6 feet 8 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermiah Merciconah Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Damn you're 2 inches taller than me and 18kg lighter too, Impressive man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jermiah Merciconah said: Damn you're 2 inches taller than me and 18kg lighter too, Impressive man Haha well I am not nearly as strong as you;) are you 146 kg atm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermiah Merciconah Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, SteinWillems1 said: Haha well I am not nearly as strong as you;) are you 146 kg atm? Nah you'll get there, Big guys have a big frame regardless Yeah i'm around there, I fluctuate between 144 and 146, For my size its not too bad of a fluctuation, When i was around 138 i would fluctuate something ridiculous like 5 kilo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Jermiah Merciconah said: Nah you'll get there, Big guys have a big frame regardless Yeah i'm around there, I fluctuate between 144 and 146, For my size its not too bad of a fluctuation, When i was around 138 i would fluctuate something ridiculous like 5 kilo Do you also feel that you have to be heavy to be strong in grippers or not? I always have the feeling that I have to be very heavy and always in a caloric surplus to make gripper gains. For now I don't want to become heavier but I want to increasw gripper gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jermiah Merciconah said: Nah you'll get there, Big guys have a big frame regardless Yeah i'm around there, I fluctuate between 144 and 146, For my size its not too bad of a fluctuation, When i was around 138 i would fluctuate something ridiculous like 5 kilo Everyone's frames are different though in that people with similar bodyfat/muscle can weigh different due to bone structure. I'm about the same height as stein and my bodyweight goal right now is mid 140kg(I'm overweight at 180+kg). I've had the dream of making the 120kg class but I think that might be pretty much as lean as I would comfortably want to get to. 23 minutes ago, SteinWillems1 said: Do you also feel that you have to be heavy to be strong in grippers or not? I always have the feeling that I have to be very heavy and always in a caloric surplus to make gripper gains. For now I don't want to become heavier but I want to increasw gripper gains. I think Tiziano Becchio has shown you don't have to be heavy to be strong on grippers closing coc 4's at around 64kg. I think grip is unique in that you can continue to get quite a bit strong even losing weight. Where in say the powerlifts like the squat just adding some weight can make certain lifts easier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermiah Merciconah Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) I definitely feel its helpful to grippers to be in a slight calorie surplus, Not heaps but i feel like being hungry while trying to close grippers is a futile endeavour, Also grip strength still operates off muscles in your forearm so being carbed up is definitely helpful Edited April 11, 2023 by Jermiah Merciconah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Stephen Ruby said: Everyone's frames are different though in that people with similar bodyfat/muscle can weigh different due to bone structure. I'm about the same height as stein and my bodyweight goal right now is mid 140kg(I'm overweight at 180+kg). I've had the dream of making the 120kg class but I think that might be pretty much as lean as I would comfortably want to get to. I think Tiziano Becchio has shown you don't have to be heavy to be strong on grippers closing coc 4's at around 64kg. I think grip is unique in that you can continue to get quite a bit strong even losing weight. Where in say the powerlifts like the squat just adding some weight can make certain lifts easier. Yeah I agree with you, Tizianzo and a lot of other lighter gripsters show us that only when I feel lighter ( under 120 kg) I notice that my hands and fingers are more slender and just not as beefy and strong. @Stephen RubyDo you notice that you get a weaker grip when you are in a caloric deficit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jermiah Merciconah said: I definitely feel its helpful to grippers to be in a slight calorie surplus, Not heaps but i feel like being hungry while trying to close grippers is a futile endeavour, Also grip strength still operates off muscles in your forearm so being carbed up is definitely helpful Yes that is how I feel about it to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 I tought I was 2.03 cm, but I measured last week and it turns out I am 2.04 cm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, SteinWillems1 said: Yeah I agree with you, Tizianzo and a lot of other lighter gripsters show us that only when I feel lighter ( under 120 kg) I notice that my hands and fingers are more slender and just not as beefy and strong. @Stephen RubyDo you notice that you get a weaker grip when you are in a caloric deficit? I agree with Jermiah that carbs makes a big difference in workout performance so I try to just ensure I have a good balanced meal prior to training. I have been getting stronger since I started training again in all lifts on a deficit. I imagine it will slow down as I lose some of the muscle memory gains but feeling better is important and being lighter will undoubtedly make me feel better all around. I think everyone has a sweet spot in terms of bodyweight where they feel strong and healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Stephen Ruby said: I agree with Jermiah that carbs makes a big difference in workout performance so I try to just ensure I have a good balanced meal prior to training. I have been getting stronger since I started training again in all lifts on a deficit. I imagine it will slow down as I lose some of the muscle memory gains but feeling better is important and being lighter will undoubtedly make me feel better all around. I think everyone has a sweet spot in terms of bodyweight where they feel strong and healthy. Yes totally agree, I guess for me I am still searching for that sweet spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) I drink a carb powder before, during, and after all my workouts. Currently, I am using Demo Day from Axe & Sledge. I'm 1.82m and 124kg right now. As long as my nutrition is timed well before my workout, I don't really feel a difference if I'm cutting or not. I had no idea you were a giant, @SteinWillems1. Edited April 11, 2023 by dubyagrip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 10 hours ago, dubyagrip said: I drink a carb powder before, during, and after all my workouts. Currently, I am using Demo Day from Axe & Sledge. I'm 1.82m and 124kg right now. As long as my nutrition is timed well before my workout, I don't really feel a difference if I'm cutting or not. I had no idea you were a giant, @SteinWillems1. That is absolutely massive! Really cool. Haha yeah I pretty tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 10 hours ago, dubyagrip said: I drink a carb powder before, during, and after all my workouts. Currently, I am using Demo Day from Axe & Sledge. I'm 1.82m and 124kg right now. As long as my nutrition is timed well before my workout, I don't really feel a difference if I'm cutting or not. I had no idea you were a giant, @SteinWillems1. I guess I am from a giants nest,my brother is 2m and my father is 2.06 m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 How much calories do you guys eat a day to keep make gains with grippers and to maintain your mass? @dubyagrip @Stephen Ruby @Jermiah Merciconah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, SteinWillems1 said: How much calories do you guys eat a day to keep make gains with grippers and to maintain your mass? @dubyagrip @Stephen Ruby @Jermiah Merciconah I know you weren't asking me... I'm way smaller than you guys but even i need over 3000 calories to break even. I've been eating more and recovery has improved, but honestly i don't strictly count calories... 4000 seems to be right. Even that can become a chore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Blacksmith513 said: I know you weren't asking me... I'm way smaller than you guys but even i need over 3000 calories to break even. I've been eating more and recovery has improved, but honestly i don't strictly count calories... 4000 seems to be right. Even that can become a chore. Thanks for replying! That is pretty much. I am around that also when I am maintaining weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 6 hours ago, SteinWillems1 said: How much calories do you guys eat a day to keep make gains with grippers and to maintain your mass? @dubyagrip @Stephen Ruby @Jermiah Merciconah I did bodybuilding for so long i dont even count anymore, but I'd say i eat around 3000 a day. I don't do much strenuous stuff these days, and lifting weights burns so few calories its negligible. When I'm riding my bike or training BJJ, then I'm burning around 5000 daily... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, SteinWillems1 said: How much calories do you guys eat a day to keep make gains with grippers and to maintain your mass? @dubyagrip @Stephen Ruby @Jermiah Merciconah I have found the body really finds it easy to stay at a weight you have been at for a while. I'm in the process of losing weight but since I would estimate my bodyfat is near 30% I just track protein intake to get roughly 300+grams a day and cut out old vices like snacks/alcohol.(plus track my steps to get around 10k which burns around 400-500 calories) I am slowly cutting but would guess I eat around 3500-4500 calories a day. My weight has dropped slowly(regained some lost muscle) but I have noticed waist size dropping and positive difference in the mirror so I know i'm improving. I will eventually use apps like myfitnesspal and weigh out food if I find I'm not making progress as I get leaner to be more strict. Keep in mind everyone has fairly drastic differences in calories needed to gain/lose so it's best to experiment with yourself on what you need. I know people half my size who eat the same and have trouble gaining due to their lifestyle and individual metabolism. Edited April 12, 2023 by Stephen Ruby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermiah Merciconah Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 To be honest i probably don't need to be as big as i am but for security its perfect, I'm currently maintaining on between 5000-6000 calories but have been pushing north of that for gaining strength in my other big lifts, But grip still seems to be getting stronger even at these maintenence calories 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteinWillems1 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jermiah Merciconah said: To be honest i probably don't need to be as big as i am but for security its perfect, I'm currently maintaining on between 5000-6000 calories but have been pushing north of that for gaining strength in my other big lifts, But grip still seems to be getting stronger even at these maintenence calories Haha beastmode! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, dubyagrip said: I did bodybuilding for so long i dont even count anymore, but I'd say i eat around 3000 a day. I don't do much strenuous stuff these days, and lifting weights burns so few calories its negligible. When I'm riding my bike or training BJJ, then I'm burning around 5000 daily... Dang, people must hate doing BJJ with you and your grip. Once i get stronger with my grip/bending i'd like to start doing BJJ. Then i'll probably be eating 5000 calories too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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