EricMilfeld Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Does anyone else long for an official list for which to certify that falls about midway between a three and the nearly impossible four? Even if the list was sponsored by a manufacturer other than Iron Mind, I think it would provide a lot of us strong guys something else for which to train real hard and brag about accomplishing, without the prerequisite of having the "gorilla hands gene" to make the grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bseedot Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Warren Tetting has mentioned a desire to start a Certification process for his line of grippers, but I don't know where he is in that process. BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gripmaster316 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 It is an interesting idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 It would be cool to be on the Gripper Guru's list. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Warrens also mentioned that to me. He said getting certified is going to be a lot harder. I think he might have been implying no set will be aloud. That ought to knock the list down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gripmaster316 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 How many #3 closers can no set a 3??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 How many #3 closers can no set a 3??? 6 out of our gripboard's Coc's. So maybe 15 or so of the total Coc's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMunger Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I will say that I think an additional benchmark is gonna be needed here pretty quick, cuz the #3 certs seems to be steaming along at a record pace. So to me as a guy who's still a penny width away from the #2 (It'll fall next session), it seems like either no set or a 3 1/2 might make sense. It's not that the #3 is getting easier, and I think the #3 closers still deserve the recognition, but it just seems like pretty quick here there's gonna be hundreds of #3 closers, and unless the #4 starts dropping for people, we've got super-elite gripsters who are gonna get "lost in the crowd" of #3 closers. Am I making any sense? Maybe the #4 will start dropping the way the #3 did a few years back, in which case my ramblings are moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Maybe he will allow a little set but none of that jamming the handles down to a inch or less. A no set would be fine with me. I think it tests more the overall strength of the hand. Kind of makes the hand strong in all positios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentDude Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I like the idea of a no set not being aloud. it gives guys with a smaller hand much more of a challenge, and it makes it more recignizable. I love a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I am slowly making progress with my SS Elite. Notice I said the word, "slowly". It is a tough uphill, since the gripper is more like a #4 to me than a #3. That's my "in-between" from the #3 to #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Vigeant Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Maybe the #4 will start dropping the way the #3 did a few years back, in which case my ramblings are moot. I dont know about that. I think the 3 is possible for most men with determination and training but, the 4 IMO maybe for the geneticly gifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Vigeant Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Snott how close are you with that brick. My REGULAR elite feels like a brick to me. The sweep feels as hard as my 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratavarious_connection Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Good Snott, keep it up! I've have made good progress with my Silver Spring Elite....down to the last 1/32" ( lefty ) . It's funny though, when comparing my Silver Spring Elite with my #4( vintage 1997- single stamped ), the #4 is light years away from it. At the most, when comparing my Silver Elite with my 3 #3's ( one #3 is vintage 1997, the hardest, and the two other #3's are 2002 and 2003 vintage) & #4, my Silver Elite is a "3 1/3". I just hope that when I do order my Super Elite, I'll find that it is harder than my Silver Elite, but not really close to my #4..if so, I'll need to order another Super Elite.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffPeterson Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 A certification process for the elite is definatly in the works. I have a few more ideas to bounce off Warren. Don't want to say too much because nothing is finalized yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 I guess I better hurry up and buy an elite. But then again, if there's a no set rule... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I guess I better hurry up and buy an elite. But then again, if there's a no set rule... Not for sure but I get that impression the way Warren talks about the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I think within a couple of years or so, the 4 will be dropping just like the three has. I know I will eventually close it. Plus theres a handfull of people who have videos posted on here that are millimeters away. They'll probably certify this year. I think the four is a lot like the four minute mile, in my opinion. It IS possible, just very tough. basically, as grip training becomes more popular, more people will gain interest, and the three list will grow. I think that is a lot of what has happened with the three list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Vigeant Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Jedd I have to disagree with you. I think if you look at the people in those videos (and i dont know any of them personally) you will find some genetically strong individuals that WILL close the #4 but there are people that have taken 3 years with tons of dedication to close the #3. I think after the elite, super elite, and #4 the numbers will go down dramatically IMO. Just out of curiosity the ones that are close (Dave,Heath,Tommy,Nathan and Wade) sorry if i missed someone that is just as close. How long did it take you guys to close the #3 after the first time you touched a gripper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 After speaking with Dale Harder on the subject of hand strength, I've come to accept a different standard of superior hand strength - pulling 100kg on a grip dynamometer. As Dale says, there are a couple hundred guys who can close the #3, but the list of guys who can pull 100kg is very short. As a side note, you'll probably see that 100kg is only 220 pounds. "But," you say, "if I can close my #3 and it is supposed to be 280 pounds, why can't I pull 100kg on the dyno?" All grippers are not created equal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I think within a couple of years or so, the 4 will be dropping just like the three has. I know I will eventually close it. Plus theres a handfull of people who have videos posted on here that are millimeters away. They'll probably certify this year. I think the four is a lot like the four minute mile, in my opinion. It IS possible, just very tough.basically, as grip training becomes more popular, more people will gain interest, and the three list will grow. I think that is a lot of what has happened with the three list. I disagree. It would be happening already if that was the case. The 4 is on a whole different level than a 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 As a side note, you'll probably see that 100kg is only 220 pounds. "But," you say, "if I can close my #3 and it is supposed to be 280 pounds, why can't I pull 100kg on the dyno?" All grippers are not created equal! 280lb. in the middle of the handle. We put as much force as possible near the ends (more leverage).I disagree. It would be happening already if that was the case. The 4 is on a whole different level than a 3. True, but it would make sense that as there are more and more Coc's the #4 list will lengthen. Maybe some day we will have 10 certified #4 closers and several hundred Coc's. I do think that it takes well above average potential to ever close a #4, even if you train for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripintime2 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I agree with your disagree, Wannagrip. At this point, it looks as though there may be a handful (no pun intended) who will accomplish the goal in due time. But the levels are so vastly different between a #3 and #4, that the list will grow very slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gripmaster316 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I think you are right Wanna... I am just curious to know, after Wade, Dave Morton, Tommy, Nathan Holle and Heath get certified when they close the 4 who is after them. Is there anyone else closing in on the 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 (edited) How about Magnus Samuelsson, Nick Mckinless, Mobsterone, and David Horne? Edited July 25, 2003 by RSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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