wsm_fan_uk Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 (edited) Hello everyone, I've been lurking here for the past couple of weeks and decided it was time I introduced myself. I've just got back into gym training for the past 6 weeks or so and have been training my grip for a couple of weeks or so. I've decided to post my grip workouts here to get any input about what I'm doing. I'm training my grip for overall hand/wrist strength I have no clear goals at the moment, I want to build an overall basis of strength before I go after specific goals. I am working my grip on different days to my regular gym days, about twice per week. I have been performing all exercises using the left hand first (I'm right handed), if I fail using the left hand I only perform that number of reps with the right hand. Sunday 27th April Ivanko Supergripper: (handles wrapped in cloth, chalk for extra grip) 5 sets, 5 reps 8.3 single 9.3 single 9.4 - failed Pinch grip: (performed using a concrete block around 4 inches across weight around 20lbs - exact weight/dimensions to follow) Lift and hold to failure 18secs, 21 secs, 13 secs. Lever lifts: (using a 7lbs sledge hammer with 28 inch handle, performed in similar style to pages 56/7 of "Mastery of Hand Strength") foremost finger 20 inches from head 1 set 6 reps, 1 set 4 reps. Finger Walks: (using a 7lbs sledge hammer with 28 inch handle) 2 attempts, first 4/5 of the way to the head, one 1/2 way to the head. Later in day..... Inverted Ivanko Supergripper: 1 set, 14 reps, setting 7.1 As I said I would appreciate any input from anyone as to anything I'm neglecting/anything I should be performing differently. Also I'd appreciate hearing from any UK gripsters about any economical sources of grip tools/toys. Thanks all, Martin Edited April 28, 2003 by wsm_fan_uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrw125 Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 I understand that you'd like to develop your crushing strength equally in both hands, and I think it's great that your emphasizing your left first in the workouts, but I don't know about holding up your right's progress just because. I think most people here have a strength discrepancy between right and left, and would like to improve it, but don't really see it as a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted April 28, 2003 Author Share Posted April 28, 2003 Only time will tell on that one nrw125, at the moment I am making good gains using this method (as you would expect for a newbie). However if progress slows to an unacceptable rate I will consider revising this approach. BTW it's not just cruching strength I am using the left hand first aproach on it is all exercises. Thanks for the input Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimalCage Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Martin, Welcome! A new logger is always appreciated. I agree with NRW. I always train each hand to its max. Your positions on the ISG are excellent. I'll use mine more when I get around to wrapping the handles. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 (edited) Workout @ Home, Wednesday 30th April 4pm-5pm Notes: Still using left hand first approach (intend to do so until progress slows to an unacceptable level). Gym day before - hands feel fine though. Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper: 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 9.1, 5 sets, 5 reps 7.5, 1 set, 5 reps, 1 set 3 reps 10.1, single 8.5, single - both hands 1 penny away Concrete Block Pinches: Block 5lbs Lift and hold to failure 13secs, 7 secs, 6 secs. Front Lever Lifts: 5 sets, 5 reps Plate Wrist Curls: 1 set 20 reps Finger Walks: 2 attempts 4 inches off Thanks very much to those of you who have given me your feedback so far. Another question that I'd like some input on is wrist exercises. I'd like to know what you think the number one wrist exercise is for a beginner like me. Edited May 1, 2003 by wsm_fan_uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Plate wrist curls. I think they are the best for wrist strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 Notes ------ Weighted Concrete block used for pinches: weight - 48lbs width 3 7/8 inches I'm hoping that this means when I can work up to lifting the block with 30lbs I will be ready and able to pinch 2 35's. I don't think that the weight/width is as impressive as it may (or may not!) sound because the surface is very abrasive - it would rip my thumb if I didn't drop it a little before failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 Workout @ Home, Thursday 1st May 4pm-5pm Notes: Hands felt OK after yesterday, wrist sore so laid off wrist work. Trying maxes on SG, not using left hand first approach. LH = Left Hand RH = Right Hand Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 9.4, lh failed - negative, rh got 8.5, rh got 10.2, rh got 9.4, lh got 8.6, rh failed - about 1mm - negative overcrush 10.2 lh 3-4mm New PBS: RH - 10.2 LH 9.4 Concrete Block Pinches: Block 5lbs Lift and hold to failure 16secs, 10 secs, 5 secs. Finger Walks: 2 attempts closest yet. NB handle thickens towards head - makes last inches hard - consider sanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 4, 2003 Author Share Posted May 4, 2003 (edited) Workout @ Home, Sunday 4th May 8.30pm-9.45pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 7.5, 3 sets, 5 reps, 7.5, 1 sets, 4 reps, 7.5, 1 sets, 3 reps, Concrete Block Pinches: Block & 5lbs Lift and hold to failure 19secs, 12 secs, 11 secs. Sledge Levers To Nose: NB: all strict, all performed from floor, all singles, distance from handle measured to finger closest to head of hammer. 16inches x 7lbs = 112ip 5 singles, 17inches x 7lbs = 119ip 18inches x 7lbs = 126ip 19inches x 7lbs = 133ip Finger Walks: 1 full length walk 1 failed attempt Plate Wrist Curls: 1 set, 10lbs, 21 reps. Plate Curls: 1 set, 10lbs, 21 reps. Hammer Curls with Sledge hammer: 1 set, 2 reps, 14inches x 7lbs = 98ip. Notes: Drop plate exercises until heavier plates can be purchased. Edited May 7, 2003 by wsm_fan_uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Have you tried pinching 2x10lb plates and doing your wrist curls with that? I had to do this before I could progress to the 25lb plate. Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 4, 2003 Author Share Posted May 4, 2003 I'll be in the gym on Tuesday so I'll give it a go, my trouble at the moment is that I train my grip at home and I don't have any plates other than a few cheap plaster cast ones. I might try pinching 2 35's on tuesday as well, I doubt I'll get them but it will give me an idea of how far I've got to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 Workout @ Home, Wednesday 7th May 11am-12.30pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 7.5, 5 sets, 5 reps 9.2 2 sets, 5 reps; 1 set 2 reps Block Pinch plus 7.5lbs 10secs, 10 secs, 9 secs n.b. changed approach, aim for 3x10secs, increase weight when acheived. Sledge Levers To Nose 5 singles 18"x7lbs = 126ip Finger Walks 3 singles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 Workout @ Home, Wednesday 8th May 4pm-5.00pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper Singles: 9.4 got, 10.2 got, 8.5 got, 10.3 got, 9.5 rh lh failed 11.1 rh failed NEW MAXES: RH - 9.5 LH - 10.3 Supergripper Pinches: 5.1 6x5 5.2 2x5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 11, 2003 Author Share Posted May 11, 2003 Workout @ Home, Saturday 10th May 7.30pm-8.30pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper: 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 9.2, 5 sets, 5 reps 8.4, 1 set, 5 reps Concrete Block Pinches: Block & 7.5lbs 10secs, 9 secs, 8 secs. Sledge Levers To Nose: 5 singles 19"x7lbs = 133ip nb alternated left hand, right hand and did all reps non-stop - in a rush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 11, 2003 Author Share Posted May 11, 2003 Workout @ Home, Sunday 11th May 4.30pm-5.00pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper: 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 8.4, 5 sets, 5 reps Hammer Curls with Sledge: 2 sets 5 reps 14"x7lbs=98ip nb left hand failing, right hand ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Hammer curls with a sledgehammer sounds interesting, do you hold your wrist ridgid for these or do you flex them with the curling motion??? Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 13, 2003 Author Share Posted May 13, 2003 I keep my wrist locked in the neutral position, it seems like a good exercise, a couple of sets of 5 left my wrists pleasently fatigued. I'm hoping that it will build strength to help lifting the sledge to shoulder level when levering it to the nose (my weakness in this feat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Sounds good, I'll have to give these a try!! Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 Excelent Jonathan, let me know how you get on/what you think of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 Workout @ Home, Sunday 11th May 4.30pm-5.00pm Workout ---------- Ivanko Supergripper: 4.2, 1 set, 10 reps 5.3, 1 set, 5 reps 6.4, 1 set, 3 reps 9.3, 4 sets, 5 reps 9.3, 1 sets, 3 reps Block Pinches plus 7.5lbs: 10 secs, 2 more attempts n.b. getting weaker, try pinch workout on different day. Coin Pinch, 20lbs: 10 secs, 5secs Sledge Levers To Nose: 19.5" x 7lbs = 136.5ip - 5 singles 20" x 7lbs = 140lbs - 5 singles Finger Walks w/Sledge: 5 singles Notes: Split block pinch, coin pinch and finger walks into separate workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted June 8, 2003 Author Share Posted June 8, 2003 A while since I've posted - busy boy but I have been keeping a crap training log in a txt file on my desktop. So here goes: ================================================== 1 Hand Pinch Dls: rh - block plus 7.5lbs 14sec, 13 sec, 13 sec lh - block plus 7.5lbs 10sec, 3sec block 10 sec, 15sec coin pinch, 20lbs rh - 15sec, 15 sec 15 lh - 10 10 12 ISG pinch: 3.1 2x10 4.1 2x5 4.2 2x5 2x5 5.2 2x5 2x5 (attempts) finger walks: 1 rep, full length 3 reps up and down ======================================== supergripper - 9.3 - 5x5 10.1 - 1x5 Levers To Nose: 20.5" - 2 singles 212 5 singles ======================================== ISG Singles: 9.2 9.3 9.4 8.6 10.3 9.5 11.1 - both 10.4 - rh only hammer curl w/sledge: rh 14",2x5 hammer lh 14",1x4, 1x3 ======================================== block pinch - full dl and 5 count: both hands, block + 15lbs (wooooh ) coin pinch: lh5,8,11 rh12,16,17 SG Pinch: 4.2 2x5 5.2 4x5 1x3+2 Finger Walks + 2.5lbs - 3 attempts approx 8" ======================================== ISG: 10.1 5x5 Lever to Nose: 21.5" 4 singles 22" 1 single ======================================== Lever to Nose: rh full length lever, 1 rep. block pinch - bests: lh 10lbs,4secs rh 15lbs,3secs (thunb getting ripped to s**t) Coin pinch: lh 12 6 8 rh 10 12 16 SG Pinch 4.2 2x5 5.2 4x5 5.3 - 2x4 attempts finger walks + 1.25kg about 3x14" ======================================== ISG: 9.4 5x5 Lever to Nose: 22.5" 3 singles front levers 2x5x12" rear levers 2x5x14" hammer curls 2x5x14" ======================================== ISG: 10.2 55555 11.2 single Lever to Nose: rh 23" 1 single lh 22" 1 single ======================================== ISG: 8.6 1x5 1x4 1x3 1x2 1x2 - useless, big jump! Lever to nose: 22"x1 lh - 2 reps 3 reps from shoulder not floor. rh - f5 reps Sledge Curls: 1rep x 15" 1 2x2reps 15" front levers 2x5x13" rear levers 1x5x15" 1x3x15" ======================================== ISG 8.6: 55553 - crap reps, still a way to go. block pinch: 3x10secs x block and 25lbs - 2easy, need to find a way to add more weight. nb used 2 hands - easier on thumbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Martin, Nice to see another training post again. Could you post the estimated force poundages with the ISG settings? I'm too lazy to look them up while reading this. Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsm_fan_uk Posted June 9, 2003 Author Share Posted June 9, 2003 Here's the full table, don't know what the formatting will be like one the form is parsed though - don't blame me if it looks aweful! It's worth noting that these forces are estimated for closing the gripper further up the handle, meaning there is less leverage, I don't know the equation used (and there's a good chance I wouldn't understand it anyway). I will be getting an RB IP160 soon so I will have this a a point of refrence. In the mean time, I remember reading someone say that the day they closed the highest ISG setting for the first time was the first day that they closed the IM3. Therefore, as I rough guide I would multiply by 0.8 in order to Ironmindise these poundages. Spring 1 Spring 2 Closing Force 3 1 45 4 1 56.41 4 2 64.32 5 1 69.58 5 2 77.49 6 1 84.5 5 3 87.15 6 2 92.41 7 1 101.17 6 3 102.07 7 2 109.08 6 4 113.48 7 3 118.74 8 1 119.6 8 2 127.51 7 4 130.15 8 3 137.17 9 1 139.78 7 5 143.32 9 2 147.69 8 4 148.58 9 3 157.35 1 10 161.71 8 5 161.75 9 4 168.76 2 10 169.62 8 6 176.67 3 10 179.28 9 5 181.93 11 1 185.4 4 10 190.69 2 11 193.3 9 6 196.84 3 11 202.96 5 10 203.86 12 1 210.84 9 7 213.52 4 11 214.38 2 12 218.74 6 10 218.78 5 11 227.54 3 12 228.4 7 10 235.45 4 12 239.82 6 11 242.46 5 12 252.98 8 10 253.88 7 11 259.14 6 12 267.9 8 11 277.56 7 12 284.58 9 11 297.74 8 12 303 9 12 323.18 12 10 345.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 LoL Thanks Martin!!! I have it printed off on my wall in my gym already. I meant post the estimated poundages with the settings in your workout logs. Oh well now I can look back to this part of the thread each time Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarBender Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 http://www.ualr.edu/helpdesk/tech/sgcalc.zip This is a free javascript calculator. Download, unzip, and run it locally on your machine via your favorite web browser. If there is enough interest, I will consider writing a stand alone Windows application that does the same and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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