bencrush Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 <BR>I think video is a good idea but not a good enough I idea that I want to be the one responsible for doing it. <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.gripboard.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif"> <BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>I understand that since we'll all be busy with our own attempts and warmups, etc. The 2" vbar video would be very easy and I may volunteer for that since it's one of the hardest to judge in real time. For guys like us that have been around grip contests and grip training in general for a long time - judging gripper attempts won't be nearly as questionable as some 2" vbar lifts that I've done in training and others have too I'm sure. </FONT><BR><BR>1. I haven't done 2" vbar in a while but 2HP is being run as 1 attempt in contests now. I think this rule is DUMB. Strongman allows several attempts on certain lifts within a time so why can't we, especially on a friction lift which is a total goat rodeo anyway. There is nothing on the NAGS site dictating which way so I feel like either way is legal.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>Right on, I like multiple attempts in a set time period! I share your thoughts on the friction lifts. </FONT><BR><BR>2. Set-up weight will depend on width but I think they're all around 50#. Bring your scale and we'll weigh it. If I remember correctly it was 52# on 48mm for MTGD.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>Excellent! That's plenty low enough for her to get a conservative opener.</FONT><BR><BR>3. I think 24mm is the narrowest allowed? I'm going to pinch on 44mm.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>That's cool then. Have to start experimenting more with width on the Mouse Pinch. 44mm is probably what most of the competitors will pinch on.</FONT><BR><BR>4. Barefoot is fine as far as I'm concerned.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>Good to hear. </FONT><BR><BR>5. Listing them would be a great idea. I'm bringing the axle. Scoring will be like you said, although I think our spreadsheet is set up for 1st=10points not 100?<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>Cool. 10 point system is just fine since we're doing the percentage-based system and it'll be essentially like the 100 point method anyway. </FONT><BR><BR>6. No idea on the thickbar hang. That event was suggested by Scott and since he's nice enough to let us have it as his house, I'm open to about any event he wants.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff face=Georgia>No problem on the hang. I wasn't trying to get out of it - just wanted to minimize the loss I was going to take on it. If Scott is reading this I'm surprised he didn't have armwrestling as the first event, haha! That way nobody but he and you and the other armwrestlers would stand a chance. Everyone else would be too trashed from the arm ripping.<IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.gripboard.com/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif"> </FONT><BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acree90 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I have a new David Horne Wrist Developer that we could use if needed. I have an orange spring and a wasp spring. Very cool! Forgot to reply to this before I left town the other day. I haven't kept up on the springs. What is the difference in the two springs? The orange spring is the easier of the springs. The wasp spring is the hardest spring in David Horne's lineup. so if the orange spring was set on the first notches of the wrist developer it would be a level one, if it was the wasp spring it would be a level four, if my understanding is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I have a new David Horne Wrist Developer that we could use if needed. I have an orange spring and a wasp spring. Very cool! Forgot to reply to this before I left town the other day. I haven't kept up on the springs. What is the difference in the two springs? The orange spring is the easier of the springs. The wasp spring is the hardest spring in David Horne's lineup. so if the orange spring was set on the first notches of the wrist developer it would be a level one, if it was the wasp spring it would be a level four, if my understanding is correct. Nice, thanks for the clarification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Austin, please bring the levels guide for each spring unless you have it all memorized. Thanks! Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Pretty soon we're going to have more grippers to add to the calibrated/rated lineup. I just sent 20 grippers to Chris Rice. 4 of them will be essentially paperweights - 2 Atomgripz Penta Bands and 2 Atomgripz Hexa Bands - but the rest should fit nicely in the contest lineup. I've got 2 Trainers that are going to be about 5lbs apart. A #1 that'll be somewhere around 80lbs. A #2 that's probably 110lbs. An easy #3 that I've seen rate at 139lbs and 146lbs a few months later when it's not been oiled and has sat around in the garage for a while. An average #3 that's about 154lbs (Bob Lipinski's), a harder #3 that's probably going to be high 150s. A Super Elite that's hit 169lbs but might test differently on his setup. And it's possible that some of these grippers have seasoned more than when they were last tested. Tetting T7 that I'm hoping will hit low 170s. An RB300 and Todd Coenen's hard #3.5. Then my full Atomgripz lineup - which is expanding rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I think video is a good idea but not a good enough I idea that I want to be the one responsible for doing it. Totally understand that. But I think it's a good enough idea on the 2" vbar at least to be something I'll at least show several people how to set up my digital camera so that those who are interested in having their lifts taped can do that. I'll bring extra memory cards but won't be able to video much without having to upload or erase some of them to make room for more. As far as judging grippers - you and I have done enough of that to be pretty accurate. Same for 2" vbar too but it's just one of those that is hard to judge when the minimum height is barely being reached. Add in plate tilt and you've got a recipe for passed lifts that shouldn't be passed if video was taken. 1. I haven't done 2" vbar in a while but 2HP is being run as 1 attempt in contests now. I think this rule is DUMB. Strongman allows several attempts on certain lifts within a time so why can't we, especially on a friction lift which is a total goat rodeo anyway. There is nothing on the NAGS site dictating which way so I feel like either way is legal. Excellent. 2. Set-up weight will depend on width but I think they're all around 50#. Bring your scale and we'll weigh it. If I remember correctly it was 52# on 48mm for MTGD. Very good. That'll be plenty low for anyone competing. 3. I think 24mm is the narrowest allowed? I'm going to pinch on 44mm. I tried it on a thinner setting than 48mm and had absolutely no luck. I may try again before the contest though just to make sure I'm not missing out on a better setting for me. 4. Barefoot is fine as far as I'm concerned. Very good. 5. Listing them would be a great idea. I'm bringing the axle. Scoring will be like you said, although I think our spreadsheet is set up for 1st=10points not 100? Scoring sounds good and the spreadsheet looked great when I looked it over last week. I can bring my Climber 1" vbar and the FBBC 2" vbar that is on loan from John Sandy. Wait, on second thought it doesn't make sense for me to bring the 2" vbar since you'll have one there anyway. Unless you want to have 2 platforms set up for 2" vbar to make it go faster. We could have one platform set up for 199lb and under openers and the other platform for those who are opening at 200lbs and over. I'm opening at 250lbs. And sorely tempted to open at 275lbs but I don't think I'll chance it at this contest. 6. No idea on the thickbar hang. That event was suggested by Scott and since he's nice enough to let us have it as his house, I'm open to about any event he wants. No worries. I wasn't trying to get out of it, but I did want to minimize the damage my shoulder is going to undoubtedly take on it. I've been experimenting the last few days and 10 seconds is painful. 20 is like being electrocuted. 30 may happen at the contest but only if I'm really close to a higher placing and feel the need to go for it. I think after the contest I'd like to get clear footage of a double #3 TNS with Josh's easy #3 and my easy #3. I've done this a few times but can never get good footage. Want to get it before the days of me being able to do it are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I can bring my 2" vbar or we can just use John's, it' doesn't matter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc M Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I ordered the stuff from Knowlton and Atlas to make the Euro Setup. Should be here early part on the week. I also have a double stamped 3 for the mid 90s with a 3 1/8 spread that rgcs(is that a word?) at 173lbs. Also a 164# #3. and a 178.25lb 3.5. Also have a blob50. IM pinch block. IM Rolling Thunder older. Let me know if you want me to bring any of this stuff. Also have an adjustable elite from Acorn that can be set up to the #195lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I ordered the stuff from Knowlton and Atlas to make the Euro Setup. Should be here early part on the week. I also have a double stamped 3 for the mid 90s with a 3 1/8 spread that rgcs(is that a word?) at 173lbs. Also a 164# #3. and a 178.25lb 3.5. Also have a blob50. IM pinch block. IM Rolling Thunder older. Let me know if you want me to bring any of this stuff. Also have an adjustable elite from Acorn that can be set up to the #195lbs. That's cool you ordered the stuff to make a Faux-Euro setup. Please bring the two #3s and the #3.5! And the Blob50 is probably a good idea too really. Partly just because I'd like to get my hands on one and see if it feels the same as the blob I have. That 173lb #3 sounds nasty! That's one of the hardest I've ever heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 What time does the grip contest start? If it's around 10am it'll probably last until 6 even if it's run efficiently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Have the results of my 20 gripper ratings - done by Chris Rice. Won't be a lot of gaps mine will fill actually but I have a 137lb #3 to add to the mix. Got this sweetie from an online buddy that I've been helping with his gripper workouts for the past 18 months. He outgrew it and figured it would be a nice TNS gripper for me. Also have a few in the 130lb and 134lb range. I've got 4 or 5 in the mid-160s. One at 169lbs. Also two #3s that are right around the "3.0" 150lb mark. My Atomgripz Penta grippers were both about 215lbs. My Atomgripz Hexa grippers were both about 280lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IROC-Z Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ben - What did the hard #3.5 rate at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ben - What did the hard #3.5 rate at? That was the most surprising. 169lbs! But the more I think about it that doesn't surprise me too much since I never oiled or cleaned the spring on your #3.5. I'd guess it was nearly 10lbs harder before Chris oiled it and cleaned the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IROC-Z Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ben - What did the hard #3.5 rate at? That was the most surprising. 169lbs! But the more I think about it that doesn't surprise me too much since I never oiled or cleaned the spring on your #3.5. I'd guess it was nearly 10lbs harder before Chris oiled it and cleaned the spring. Wow. That's mind boggling. I always thought that thing would rate in the 180's. It felt like a brick to me. This can only mean one thing: I'm even weaker than I thought I was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I didn't rate Ben's grippers "as is" when I got them but I tried them before and after cleaning and oiling. I don't know where Ben keeps these things but a coal mine would be a good guess. Many of them creaked and crunched badly before I tried to clean them up - I would guess there were some pretty big changes from "as is" to where they were when I did them. Cleaning and oiling can and has made some substantial differences in ratings I have done. All grippers were done at least twice and some 3 times to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IROC-Z Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Chris - I keep all of my grippers clean and dry, but I've never oiled them. Would you recommend that I give the springs a shot of oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Chris - I keep all of my grippers clean and dry, but I've never oiled them. Would you recommend that I give the springs a shot of oil? I have found an average change of a few pounds between brand new out of the box grippers that I just blew out and gave a drop of oil - and even more on "dirty" ones. I clean (with an air hose) and oil all my grippers fairly regularly and always before a contest. Cleaned and oiled make for very consistent ratings over time - while various stages of rust, dryness and/or dirt can be quite inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Chris - I keep all of my grippers clean and dry, but I've never oiled them. Would you recommend that I give the springs a shot of oil? YES! If you're going for predictability. We know from doing RGC ratings that you need a clean, oiled gripper in order to hope for a repeatable result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hey guys, I posted this elsewhere, but if you use google spreadsheets and have an internet connection, you can get results out live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hey guys, I posted this elsewhere, but if you use google spreadsheets and have an internet connection, you can get results out live. Thanks Bob! We'll do that if Scott has an internet connection and wants to update it live. Sounds pretty neat to me though. Another thing that I didn't mention is how close my ratings are to Chris's. I had rated the easy Super Elite a few years back and got only 2lbs (higher) difference from his rating. And 2lbs off on one of the #3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Okay, here's the entire list of rated grippers that I'm bringing to the contest. Thanks again to Chris Rice for rating all of these! -Trainer - 57.54lbs -Trainer - 62.54lbs -#1 - 81.34lbs -#2 - 110.5lbs -Atomgripz Mirror Finish Triple Band - 129.3lbs -Atomgripz Triple Band - 130.5lbs -HG300 - 134.3lbs -#3 - 137lbs -#3 (Blobert's) - 149.3lbs -#3 - 150.5lbs -Atomgripz Narrow Quad Band - 151.84lbs -Tetting T7 - 165.5lbs -RB300 - 165.5lbs -Super Elite - 166.84lbs -Atomgripz Wide Quad Band - 166.84lbs -#3.5 (Todd Coenen's) - 169.3lbs I'm not bringing the following Atomgripz because I doubt there will be anyone there that will be able to close them. But the ratings are interesting enough to list anyway. -Atomgripz Penta Band - 214.65lbs -Atomgripz Penta Band - 217.19lbs -Atomgripz Hexa Band - 280lbs -Atomgripz Hexa Band - 282.54lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acree90 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Has the start time been confirmed for this event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Event will start at 12 noon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Everyone drive safe and look forward to seeing some new faces at the contest on Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Good luck to everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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