DannyGrip Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm searching for a good quality gripper that's slightly harder than a #1. If anyone can list all the possible grippers between the #1 and #2 range, it would be greatly appreciated. My MAX effort on the #1 is around 30 Full Clean Reps. I can fully close the #2 but can't train on it. I'm looking for a Gripper where my MAX effort in Reps would be between 5-15 Reps. Any ideas on how the Beefbuilder grippers rate in comparison to IronMind in strength? Which Beefbuilders fall in the middle of 1 & 2 and what would you rate them. THANK YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Farsmann Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 # Gripper 1 IM Guide 60 lbs 2 RB70 3 IM Sport 80 lbs 4 HG100 5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs 6 HG150 7 .225 COC T 100 lbs 8 RB130N 9 RB100 10 RB160N 11 RB130 12 RB180N 13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs 14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs 15 HG200 16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs 17 PDA243 18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 20 GM1 cert gripper 21 RB210N 22 HG250 23 RB160 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs 25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs 26 RB180 27 RB240N 28 PDA262 29 RB260N 30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs 31 HG300 32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs 33 GM2 cert Gripper 34 RB210 35 HG400 36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs 37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs 38 .277 RB240 39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs 40 GM3 cert gripper 41 RB300N 42 HG350 43 .277 RB260 44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs 45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs 46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs 47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs 48 RB330N 49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs 50 .295 RB300 51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs 52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs 53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs 54 RB330 55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs 56 .353 HG500 57 RB365 58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs 59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs 60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs 61 .362 BB Super Galaxy 62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy 63 RBWT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 # Gripper18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs 19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs 24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs I've narrowed all the choices to these three. I've heard HG's & RB's season within use and aren't as great for precision and quality as the COC's and BB's. So for my purpose, I'm basically looking for something between #1 & #2 either CC or BB. Is the COC #1.5 about the same in strength as the BB Super Advanced? Is the COC #2 about the same in strength as the BB Master? How much difference is there between these. I currently have #1 and #2. Should I just get the #1.5, as the Super Advanced and Master most likely overlap the #1.5 and #2. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Farsmann Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) My HG's have seasoned and they're low quality but I'm not sure about my RB's. My RB's are of MUCH better quality. The crush down feels the same during the full range of motion. I would go with the BBSA as it is harder than I 1.5 but also lighter than a #2. I assume a #1.5 is too easy for you. You can also file down that BBSA or your #1 to do some BTR training. Or get an adjustable Vulcan Hand Gripper. Judging from the list the BBSA is harder than the #1.5 an the CoC#2 is about the same as a BBM. Edited January 11, 2009 by Klesen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Farsmann Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Here's an excellent link where you can look up some gripper calibrations to make your decision easier http://p2.foorumi.info/rautakoura/viewtopic.php?t=9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropkick Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 i took that finnish calibrated gripper page and put it into a spreadsheet (it took forever), but here's the list from 1.00-1.50 according to that page.. it should be significantly easier to read. the layout is: gripper/kilos to close/pounds to close/(CoC) rating (i'm unsure of what method was used for the rating) 1.00-1.50 IM #1 37.5 82.78 1 IM #1 37.5 82.78 1 IM #1 (old) 38 83.89 1.03 IM #1 38 83.89 1.03 IM #1 38.5 85 1.07 IM #1.5 39 86.09 1.11 IM #1 39.5 87.2 1.16 IM #1.5 40 88.3 1.2 IM #1 (new) 40 88.3 1.2 IM #1 (2005) 40 89.4 1.2 IM #1 (new) 40.5 89.4 1.24 IMTUG6 41.5 91.61 1.32 IM #1.5 41.5 91.61 1.32 IM #1.5 42 92.71 1.36 IM #1.5 42 92.71 1.36 IM #1.5 42 92.71 1.36 IM #1.5 42 92.71 1.36 HG200 42.5 93.81 1.4 IM #1.5 42.5 93.81 1.4 IM #1.5 43.5 96.02 1.48 1.5-2.00 RB160 44 97.13 1.52 IM #2 (2005) 45.5 100.4 1.64 IM #1.5 45.5 100.4 1.64 IM #2 (new) 46 101.55 1.69 RB160 46.5 102.65 1.73 IMTUG6 46.5 102.65 1.73 RB160 47 103.75 1.76 IM #2 47 103.75 1.76 IM #1.5 47 103.75 1.76 RB160 47 103.75 1.76 IM #2 47 103.75 1.76 RB160 47.5 104.86 1.8 RB160 47.5 104.86 1.8 IM #2 47.5 104.86 1.8 IM #2 47.5 104.86 1.8 IM #2 48.5 107.06 1.89 IM #2 48.5 107.06 1.89 RB210N 48.5 107.5 1.89 IM #2 48.5 107.6 1.89 RB180 49 108.17 1.93 IM #2 49.5 109.28 1.97 RB160 49.5 109.28 1.97 RB160 49.5 109.28 1.97 RB160 49.5 109.28 1.97 RB180 49.5 109.28 1.97 IM #2 49.5 109.28 1.97 IM #2 49.5 109.28 1.97 IM #2 49.5 109.28 1.97 2.00-2.50 IM #2 50 110.37 2 hope that helps a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 grippers vary so u will never know if your next gripper its really betwen your #1 and #2. Some hard #1.5 are about the same as an easy #2 ... just my personal oppinion: fill your #1 and u will have your 5-15 range gripper(1 mm each side to start). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryg Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Tetting T3 http://www.nutritiongeeks.com/hand-gripper...nd-gripper.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Tetting T3http://www.nutritiongeeks.com/hand-gripper...nd-gripper.html Which is harder to close - Tetting T3 or COC #1.5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 u can buy one calibrated #1.5 by one of the gripboard members. Make a post at the "want to buy" ... u should calibrate your #1 and #2 just to give u an idea how hard they are. Bencrush,Acorn,Climber511,Magnus just to name a few can help u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Knight Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Hey I just got my #1.5 today in the mail. This is exactly what I was looking for! I was able to do around 4 Sets of around 20-25 Reps w/ the #1 (w/ a struggle at the end of course). My max to failure on one all out set was around 35 Reps. I suspect once a gripper can be done for a good 4 Sets of 20 FULL Reps - it's time to move up because training at reps higher than 20-25 is useless because you can be on that forever. #1.5 is just what I needed, I fail at around 8-12 Reps w/ each hand and I suspect as the Reps go up so will my ability to train on the #2, which right now I can only close once or twice max. I guess I won't need to be getting the T3- Super Advanced after all. The #1.5 & T3 most likely feel identical. IrondMind is GREAT! Edited January 23, 2009 by DannyGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryg Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Hey I just got my #1.5 today in the mail. This is exactly what I was looking for! I was able to do around 4 Sets of around 20-25 Reps w/ the #1 (w/ a struggle at the end of course). My max to failure on one all out set was around 35 Reps. I suspect once a gripper can be done for a good 4 Sets of 20 FULL Reps - it's time to move up because training at reps higher than 20-25 is useless because you can be on that forever. #1.5 is just what I needed, I fail at around 8-12 Reps w/ each hand and I suspect as the Reps go up so will my ability to train on the #2, which right now I can only close once or twice max. I guess I won't need to be getting the T3- Super Advanced after all. The #1.5 & T3 most likely feel identical. IrondMind is GREAT! How's it compare to your other coc #1.5? http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=29887&hl= http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=27794&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Hey I just got my #1.5 today in the mail. This is exactly what I was looking for! I was able to do around 4 Sets of around 20-25 Reps w/ the #1 (w/ a struggle at the end of course). My max to failure on one all out set was around 35 Reps. I suspect once a gripper can be done for a good 4 Sets of 20 FULL Reps - it's time to move up because training at reps higher than 20-25 is useless because you can be on that forever. #1.5 is just what I needed, I fail at around 8-12 Reps w/ each hand and I suspect as the Reps go up so will my ability to train on the #2, which right now I can only close once or twice max. I guess I won't need to be getting the T3- Super Advanced after all. The #1.5 & T3 most likely feel identical. IrondMind is GREAT! How's it compare to your other coc #1.5? http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=29887&hl= http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=27794&hl= Comparisons are hard to make as you get stronger on these things. Ex: If someone was able to close the #2 for only one rep then trained on the #1.5 or Super Advanced and hasn't touched the #2 for few months, then one day someone comes w/ their #2 and suddenly that person closes it for few reps, it's hard to compare considering strength has gone up. I think all that matters is that whatever you're currently doing is still challenging and you still seeing improvements. I think in a few months, that #2 will be closed for 10 good Reps. Only a matter of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I suspect the 1.5. Could be wrong though. Hey I just got my #1.5 today in the mail. This is exactly what I was looking for! I was able to do around 4 Sets of around 20-25 Reps w/ the #1 (w/ a struggle at the end of course). My max to failure on one all out set was around 35 Reps. I suspect once a gripper can be done for a good 4 Sets of 20 FULL Reps - it's time to move up because training at reps higher than 20-25 is useless because you can be on that forever. #1.5 is just what I needed, I fail at around 8-12 Reps w/ each hand and I suspect as the Reps go up so will my ability to train on the #2, which right now I can only close once or twice max. I guess I won't need to be getting the T3- Super Advanced after all. The #1.5 & T3 most likely feel identical. IrondMind is GREAT! How's it compare to your other coc #1.5? http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=29887&hl= http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=27794&hl= Comparisons are hard to make as you get stronger on these things. Ex: If someone was able to close the #2 for only one rep then trained on the #1.5 or Super Advanced and hasn't touched the #2 for few months, then one day someone comes w/ their #2 and suddenly that person closes it for few reps, it's hard to compare considering strength has gone up. I think all that matters is that whatever you're currently doing is still challenging and you still seeing improvements. I think in a few months, that #2 will be closed for 10 good Reps. Only a matter of time! No, not at all. All you have to do is compare them both on the same day. ie you come up and do 10 reps on one 1.5 and do 8 on the other, clearly the latter is harder by a bit because you did less reps and you can estimate to what extent based on your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Comparisons are hard to make as you get stronger on these things. Ex: If someone was able to close the #2 for only one rep then trained on the #1.5 or Super Advanced and hasn't touched the #2 for few months, then one day someone comes w/ their #2 and suddenly that person closes it for few reps, it's hard to compare considering strength has gone up. I think all that matters is that whatever you're currently doing is still challenging and you still seeing improvements. I think in a few months, that #2 will be closed for 10 good Reps. Only a matter of time! No, not at all. All you have to do is compare them both on the same day. ie you come up and do 10 reps on one 1.5 and do 8 on the other, clearly the latter is harder by a bit because you did less reps and you can estimate to what extent based on your opinion. Honestly I've tried maybe 6 different #1's and they all felt about the same. The only difference I ever noticed was the knurling - depending on when the gripper was actually made. If you give me a few #1 grippers - all made recently, I bet they will all feel the same but when you go few years behind it would probably be harder to train w/ because the knurling wasn't as good as the ones made today. I believe IronMind themselves have had about 7 revisions on their grippers since they started producing their own grippers in 1993. I have tried a 1995 #2, 2006 #2, and a few recent #2's - I would have to say each felt a tad different but the one's that were recent all felt the same. I was able to close the 1995 #2 but it felt harder, is it really harder? The grip just wasn't as stable because the knurling was different. Silver Crush grippers I heard were harder because of 3 criterias - 1. The grippers themselves were heavier in weight because the handles were designed of steel. 2. the knurling was too smooth and was hard to get a good grip on the handles and 3. strength wan't consistent until 1995 when captains of crush line of grippers replaced the silver crush grippers. Edited January 24, 2009 by DannyGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hey just wondering if anyone knows which gripper if there is any would be in the 180 lbs region ? I'm looking for a gripper between a #1.5 and #2. If the #1.5 is rated at 168 lbs and the #2 at 195 lbs, then I need a gripper at around 180 lbs. It being that in the last few days I been able to knock off 10 FULL Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Left Hand & 15 Full Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Right Hand. Yes I know my right hand is doing about 20 more reps than my left in the whole workout. I figure it should only be a few more weeks until I can do about 4 Sets of 20 Reps on both hands w/ the #1.5, so I think now is good time to get another gripper that would challenge me at low reps. Any Suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hey just wondering if anyone knows which gripper if there is any would be in the 180 lbs region ?I'm looking for a gripper between a #1.5 and #2. If the #1.5 is rated at 168 lbs and the #2 at 195 lbs, then I need a gripper at around 180 lbs. It being that in the last few days I been able to knock off 10 FULL Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Left Hand & 15 Full Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Right Hand. Yes I know my right hand is doing about 20 more reps than my left in the whole workout. I figure it should only be a few more weeks until I can do about 4 Sets of 20 Reps on both hands w/ the #1.5, so I think now is good time to get another gripper that would challenge me at low reps. Any Suggestions? Thanks! Yes! Get a narrow spread Master from Warren. Mighty Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviper42 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hey just wondering if anyone knows which gripper if there is any would be in the 180 lbs region ?I'm looking for a gripper between a #1.5 and #2. If the #1.5 is rated at 168 lbs and the #2 at 195 lbs, then I need a gripper at around 180 lbs. It being that in the last few days I been able to knock off 10 FULL Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Left Hand & 15 Full Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Right Hand. Yes I know my right hand is doing about 20 more reps than my left in the whole workout. I figure it should only be a few more weeks until I can do about 4 Sets of 20 Reps on both hands w/ the #1.5, so I think now is good time to get another gripper that would challenge me at low reps. Any Suggestions? Thanks! If you're doing that many reps on a #1.5 you are more than ready for a #2. Don't bother getting anything between a #1.5 and #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Hey just wondering if anyone knows which gripper if there is any would be in the 180 lbs region ?I'm looking for a gripper between a #1.5 and #2. If the #1.5 is rated at 168 lbs and the #2 at 195 lbs, then I need a gripper at around 180 lbs. It being that in the last few days I been able to knock off 10 FULL Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Left Hand & 15 Full Reps for 4 Sets w/ my Right Hand. Yes I know my right hand is doing about 20 more reps than my left in the whole workout. I figure it should only be a few more weeks until I can do about 4 Sets of 20 Reps on both hands w/ the #1.5, so I think now is good time to get another gripper that would challenge me at low reps. Any Suggestions? Thanks! If you're doing that many reps on a #1.5 you are more than ready for a #2. Don't bother getting anything between a #1.5 and #2. Very good idea, it's been a while since I've picked up the #2 and tried to go for reps. Maybe by now I can do so. I think I'll wait two more weeks though before I do this that way I don't dissapoint myself on the #2. So perhaps get stronger on the #1.5 and be able to complete an easy 20 reps or so w/ each hand. I hope the jump between #1.5 and #2 isn't huge and will allow me to train w/ the #2 once the #1.5 becomes relatively easy. Honestly when the #1 felt like it was so easy, I couldn't complete a second rep w/ the #2, but can only fully close once with a No Set starting position. Thanks for the advice! Edited February 18, 2009 by DannyGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlstrass Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I would suggest a BB Master and make it an adjustable mount. You can lower the mount to make it harder then your 1.5 and eventually raise the mount to make it harder then your #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Danny, based on how well you're repping the 1.5, I'd just start using the #2. You may wish to do something other than rep it, so I'd suggest overcrushes. It sounds like you may have an easy 1.5 and a hard 2. You may want to file that 1.5 somewhat. Anyhow, if you want a gripper slightly easier than a 2, I'd get a BBM. I have a 1.5 and a BBSA and they are exactly the same difficulty. I also have a RB210N which is nicely inbetween my BBSA and BBM, but most are somewhat harder than that (I think mine is abnormally narrow at 2.2" spread) .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyGrip Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Danny, based on how well you're repping the 1.5, I'd just start using the #2. You may wish to do something other than rep it, so I'd suggest overcrushes.It sounds like you may have an easy 1.5 and a hard 2. You may want to file that 1.5 somewhat. Anyhow, if you want a gripper slightly easier than a 2, I'd get a BBM. I have a 1.5 and a BBSA and they are exactly the same difficulty. I also have a RB210N which is nicely inbetween my BBSA and BBM, but most are somewhat harder than that (I think mine is abnormally narrow at 2.2" spread) .. neilkaz .. I've tried various different grippers from 2 different brands: Captains of Crush & Tetting (BeefBuilder). I've made an honest evaluation of how each felt in comparison of strength. It seems the information I've gotten initially wasn't as accurate as I came across. Here's how I would rate the following grippers from the 2 brands. CoC #1 I'm assuming T2 @ 130 lbs (BeefBuilder Advanced) would fall in here, but I have never tried it so I can't confirm that. CoC #1.5 T3 @ 165 lbs (BeefBuilder Super Advanced) CoC #2 T4 @ 195 lbs (BeefBuilder Master) I can fully close the #2, yet cannot do so on the Master as I'm close to doing so but cannot. So how is everyone saying the Master is slightly easier, if the #2 I can close every few minutes that I pick it up. The #1.5 I can get around 10-15 Reps maximum with my Right Hand, yet the Super Advanced only allows me to do about 5-8 Reps MAX! I can certainly say the Super Advanced is a great gripper between the #1.5 & #2. Here are the grippers I would say one would need to help bridge gaps between the CoC Grippers. If you cannot train w/ the CoC Trainer, get the Everlast Wooden Gripper (I'd rate it @ 75 lbs, about the same as the CoC Sport) and this is the hardest sporting goods store gripper you can get and is where I started about a year and half ago. A level below that would be the Bollinger plastic gripper (I'd rate it at 50 lbs, easier than CoC Guide). If you're having problems training w/ the CoC #1 but can rep out the Trainer easily, try getting the HG150 or I assume the BeefBuilder Beginner which should be at around 120 lbs. I actually used the HG150 before moving up to CoC #1, this was due to the fact that I was repping the Trainer easily but still couldn't train w/ the #1. From the #1 to #1.5 it should be an easy path and I don't feel one needs any gripper in between, yet you do have options like HG200 (slightly harder than #1) or the BB Advanced. As I've been able to compare 3 different brands: CoC, BB, and HG. I would say Captains of Crush are the nicest looking grippers, they come nicely packaged and have a shiny look to them and are definately the gold standard of grippers. BeefBuilder grippers felt amazing when training with. They look tough though and aren't the prettiest of grippers - the Spring has black residue that comes off slowly each time you rub it with a cloth, the handles have some sparkles that are left in your hand after training. The knurling on the BeefBuilder grippers though is so good I would say that the gripper stays in place so well, it might be tough for some. Also CoC grippers at the lower levels have narrower spreads and as they get harder the spread becomes wider. On the BB grippers I didn't observe that as they were all a 2.75" exactly. I would say both are just amazing Grippers to have. As far as the HG is concerned, I would say STAY AWAY! The knurling is too smooth and the gripper will constantly come out of place in your hand. The strength on the gripper after just a few training sessions goes down and the spread becomes narrower so it's harder to track progess on a gripper that seasons down due to its made in China quality. Also HG's tend to squeak every other day even with a pile of WD-40 and the tension as you close doesn't feel so even as there are some points in the close that are harder. Also I've noticed handles not touching together perfectly even like the CoC's and BB's do. I would give my insight about RB Grippers, but quite frankly I don't feel it's worth spending over $50 to have a gripper shipped to me from Europe (it's 40 Euro for the gripper alone then you have shipping on top of it) only to find out that it seasons withing use as what the reviews on here say. Hope this is helpful for anyone trying to climb to the ultimate goal of being able to Rep that #2 for a good 10 Reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg_uk Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 if you want to try an rb gripper buy it from fbbc, one of the board sponsors on the top right of the screen, much cheaper than the price you are quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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