skinbones Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hi everybody, my name's Jared, and I'm a gripoholic. After lurking silently on this board for the better part of a year, I thought I'd get serious about my problem, and get it out in the open. About me: I'm a 20 y.o. student, 6 foot 170#, although I wouldn't mind an increase in those stats. I like to lift, train grip, cook, and drink beers & single malt, that's about the extent of my hobbies. Maybe one day I'll post a pic and get a quote under my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 Lately I've been practicing my main lifting once a week on the weekend, and doing grip whenever I feel like it. I just got some CHALK from APT, and wow, that stuff is great! My grip seemed to improve by 10% instantaneously! I think the motivation carried into my other lifts. For the last several months I've been only doing deads, HSPU's, and pullups, every day but Sunday, which I see as my "strengthening and thinning" program. Now it's time for some thickening out, and packing on some muscle. Squat (Narrow stance, high bar, below parallel) 5 x 135# 5 x 180 5 x 225 5 x 270 3,5 x 325 (the second set was easier than the first for some reason) Bent-over Row 5 x 90# 5 x 135 5,5 x 180 (just started doing these) Dips 5 x bw 5 x 25 5,5 x 50 (just started doing these) Random grip stuff I did: Plate curl 35# L: 1x2, R: 2x3 Pinching hex dumbbells by face (whole dumbbells stood upright, as I don't have my own weights and hacksaw for blobs) I will post measurements as I get them. Does anyone do these, or are the cut-up weights superior? L: 5 x 45# for 5s R: 5 x 45# for 5s R: 50# broke from ground Grippers: R: No-set #2 several times, #3 attempt to ~1/4" with wide set L: No-set #2 2x, then set and repped Left chalk all over the damn weightroom I just got the KTA e-book and I'm gonna start on Monday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soilworker Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Plate curl 35#L: 1x2, R: 2x3 Are these the wrist curls or biceps curls with the wrist kept straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Plate curl 35# L: 1x2, R: 2x3 Are these the wrist curls or biceps curls with the wrist kept straight? They're bicep curls, I keep the wrist straight, i.e. a straight line from the knuckle to elbow, as one might throw a straight punch (not that I'd do that, ever). I think the limiting factor is my bicep strenght, as I can barely curl a 50#er, and the plate exerts more torque cuz of the extended center of mass. My wrist curls are quite a bit lower, I can crank out 10 or more with each wrist with a 25#. Question: Doing the wrist plate curls on a bench, how low do you go? I try to go below a 45 degree dip, but not quite 90 (straight down) and then I come up as far as possible. This seemed to be how Rick Walker was doing them in that combat hands or somethingorather article he wrote (good guide, btw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Where do you hold the plate, at the hole or at the rim? If you are holding the plate by the rim that's quite a feat. A vid maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Where do you hold the plate, at the hole or at the rim? If you are holding the plate by the rim that's quite a feat. A vid maybe? Hey, thanks. I hold it by the rim, just Brookfield says to do in MOHS. "If you can perform reps with a 35lb plate, you have very strong wrists" (55). Sweet, I've never been very strong at anything! There's a guy who curls 55#, but he bends his wrists back a bit, which I think defeats some of the purpose. http://www.prowriststraps.com/plate_curl_f...finger_strength Wrists are probably my forte, even though they're a tiny 7" (6.5 when I started training, believe me I measured). I can lever an 8lb front, back, and side to side as they say, and I'm guessing I'd be good for at least 12# to touch the nose. Not nearing any records, but decent I think. I don't have a camera, maybe I could use my cell phone for a still. I'll get a camerawoman some time in a few months, and post some vids, hopefully I'll mash a #3 or at least a BBGM by this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Today was awesome, and by awesome I mean totally sweet. After walking 1 1/2 miles to attend my 9am class, I felt I deserved some "ME" time, so I went to the weightroom. I wussed out and warmed my hands up in a hot bath, then proceeded to Power clean and push press 5 x 135 Burpees x 20 Realising this sh** is for athletes or prisoners, I wisely moved on to some BB'ing, and, rolling up my sleeves, proceeded to wrist curls, thumbless 45x20 reverse wrist curls 45 x 15 finger curls 95 x 20 concentration curls - "visualize the peak" 30x10 each arm 35 x 8 each arm chins, just to, you know, stretch the biceps 1x5 barbell wheel rolouts 1 x 5 After this I proceeded to prance about the weightroom, wearing nothing but a pink thong, squeezing 5lb dumbbells so my shoulder and arm striations would be more apparent. Then I went to my PO Box, and as luck would have it, the latest Cigar Aficionado was sitting right there for me to grab! This calls for a day of making some martinis, and sipping on overpriced whiskys, possibly even going to the cocktail bar to show off my huge guns.. {so maybe not all of this is true, but with all my new grip toys in the mail, I had to postpone starting KTA, and that made me feel like a jerk. but I'm getting: Ironmind bag of nails, BBSM, a dipping belt, a blob50, and a BBSE with extended handle for negs. saweeet!} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I just hope the thong part is made up. And you curled a 35 the right way, damn! That is strong indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) I almost forgot the rest of my BB routine. chest crusher CoC #2 CoC#3 x 5 (first time its been closed I think) Do I need to fully close it to season the gripper? I should be doing more crushes though, just to practice for when my nails arrive! And tonight I'll be doing vertical thick bar work, using a beer bottlee at the WU-TANG CLAN concert! Edited February 7, 2006 by skinbones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Don't expect a CoC to season much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) I almost forgot the rest of my BB routine.chest crusher CoC #2 CoC#3 x 5 (first time its been closed I think) Do I need to fully close it to season the gripper? I should be doing more crushes though, just to practice for when my nails arrive! And tonight I'll be doing vertical thick bar work, using a beer bottlee at the WU-TANG CLAN concert! nice job Edited February 9, 2006 by BigT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I didn't know the Wu Tang Clan was still around. If you want to prepare for bending then get some lever in there fool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) >>If you want to prepare for bending then get some lever in there fool! Good point. I have a homemade sledge, made from a 6 pound brick, a broomstick, and duct tape. The stick is almost 4 feet long, so the torque is about the same as an 8lb sledge. But this thing is too easy for just about every direction I can level, so I will look for another brick. These things are actually hard to come by in a city. I figure letting the "sledge" lever forward is best for DO bending? I do the levering pretty much every day. Edited February 10, 2006 by skinbones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 All the lever movements help, I wouln't leave any out. But that one is probably the most beneficial yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 HOYLE CRAPPER THIS STUFF IS HARD. I got my nails today and IM cordura pads. Now, granted, I wasn't at my strongest, but this bending stuff is hard. The white and green are pretty easy, but... 3 x white nail 2 x green nail 1 x white nail behind back 1 x yellow nail to 20* That yellow attempt really beat me down. I did these bend DO, but I will have to experiment a bit. I actually got the yellow only by doing a reverse grip. I will try some DU, but I am pretty sure I will do best at DO once I get technique down. I'm pretty sure I could get that yellow on a good day. I have a lot more respect for you 60d and red benders out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisof4 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 HOYLE CRAPPER THIS STUFF IS HARD.I got my nails today and IM cordura pads. Now, granted, I wasn't at my strongest, but this bending stuff is hard. The white and green are pretty easy, but... 3 x white nail 2 x green nail 1 x white nail behind back 1 x yellow nail to 20* That yellow attempt really beat me down. I did these bend DO, but I will have to experiment a bit. I actually got the yellow only by doing a reverse grip. I will try some DU, but I am pretty sure I will do best at DO once I get technique down. I'm pretty sure I could get that yellow on a good day. I have a lot more respect for you 60d and red benders out there! Great job on the whites and greens. Unless you are just a real strong guy, you might find the jump between the green and yellow larger than you think. It took me several months to make the transition myself (I advance much slower than the average bender on this board, however). You might make the jump very quickly, but if you don't, I recommend two very useful intermediate materials. I think timber ties are the next step up from the green. After the timber ties, I find 6" x 1/4" hex head bolts are a good step. Once you master these, you are very close to the yellow. Another step in between the hex head bolts and the yellow are 1/4" round HRS like you find at Lowe's or Home Depot. Cut these to 6" and 5" lengths and bend in volume. From there, it was a very short step up to the yellow. Hopefully you will bend the yellow much faster than I did, but if not, don't get discouraged. The jump is larger than most people realize. Good luck! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 You've kinked the yellow already, you'll kill it in no time. Chris's list is the perfect transition from green to yellow. Just be sure to get G2 hex head bolts, not G5. Those come later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) Hey, I appreciate the advice! I will get on a bus to HD one of these days. Or maybe just order some bolts on the internet. Edited February 12, 2006 by skinbones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Maybe the bending beat me up, but I had a real crappy workout today, which I will list below. Squats: 5 x 135# 5 x 180 5 x 225 5 x 275 3, 1 x 335 There was this other guy who came into the weightroom, and when I got under the bar, he stood like three feet behind me and four to the left, just staring at me. His eyes made my butt heavier. Just cause someone is squatting your best leg press, doesn't mean you need to stare them down! So I was going for 2x5 and missed. Will get it next week! Bent-over rows 5 x 135# 5, 5 x 185 Weighted Dips 5 x bw 5 x bw + 25# 5 x bw + 47 4 x bw + 70 Wide pinch: L, R: picked up 40, 45# dumbbells, failed with 50# 2-hand pinch 100# 125 135 140, 140 145-fail some plate wrist curls: L: 5 x 25# R: 5 x 25# I'm gonna try some more bending, and grippers if the bending doesn't go well. Last week I ordered a weight belt and BBSM, but I'm still waiting. I had to use an extension cord for the weighted dips, but hey, it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) You've kinked the yellow already, you'll kill it in no time. Chris's list is the perfect transition from green to yellow. Just be sure to get G2 hex head bolts, not G5. Those come later. SWEET! I loaded up the yellow I kinked from last night, and MASHED that SOB! Had to use a reverse grip. Maybe I will practice more with that style. Edited February 12, 2006 by skinbones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 What I tell ya. Good stuff man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisof4 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 You've kinked the yellow already, you'll kill it in no time. Chris's list is the perfect transition from green to yellow. Just be sure to get G2 hex head bolts, not G5. Those come later. SWEET! I loaded up the yellow I kinked from last night, and MASHED that SOB! Had to use a reverse grip. Maybe I will practice more with that style. Great job on the yellow! You will own them in volume soon. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Huzzah! I got my package from weighlifter's warehouse today, including dipping belt and BBSM. I REALLY like the feel of the Beef Builder gripper! The knurling is great. The spread is 2 15/16" as compared to 2 13/16" for my 2005 #2 and 3" even for my 2005 #3. With that said, there is a slight problem. Although I promised myself I would wait till the weekend to do anymore grip, as my forearms and wrists are shot from bending, I had to try the gripper. I TNS smashed it right out of the package! Didn't try with lefty yet. Sadly, I have to immediately order the GM. This one better last a bit longer. With the toughness of the new CoC grippers I will probably have to close an Elite before I can get certed on the #3! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Workout February 15 I checked my mail today and I got my book from ebay: HOW TO MOLD A MIGHTY GRIP By GEORGE F. JOWETT It's pretty cool for something written in the 30's. Talks about musculature of the forearm, bending & horseshoes, a lot of exercises with lipped barrels, sledge levering, plate pinching, and lifting books on a desk with the fingers to work the scissors muscles. And of course feats of strength with these and other exercises. Adrian Schmidt, who could pinch the bottom of a chain link with one thumb and forefinger and thereby do a pullup. Also intersting is that Jowett claims it is easier to do a plate pinch (he means one plate which is smooth on both sides) with some space between the palm and plate. Didn't really work out today. I hung off a 2" wide vertical bar for a few seconds with either hand, the width doesn't seem to hurt my v-bar. And I did a few bench presses for the hell of it, working up to 175#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbones Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Workout Feb.16 Bench Press negative: 225# ouch Military press: 45# x 25 supersetted with 65 x 10 Deadlift (Why?): 225#, 315#; 405# failed to lockout BO rows: 135# x 5, 185 x 5; 225 x 4 with some cheating. Grip: DO 2" handle snatch grip deadlift (using shrug bar): 135#, 225, 245 DO rack pull: 315#, 405 rack pull: 495# x 2, 585 x 2 I am sore this morning, mainly my traps from those rack pulls. Not really sure why I deadlifted, cuz I have to squat saturday. Didn't really exert myself too much, as I could've locked out the 405 if I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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