My Notes, Thoughts, Training logs, etc

[SkyHeart]

18 minutes ago, DevilErik said:

Damn that is weird haha luckily you found out before it broke.

It's better to spend some more money and get good quality.

I think the CoC and GHP grippers can stay with you forever.

I will definitely upload a video!

I do have to get the CoC grippers first but I have a 300 LBS unrated gripper which is pretty much the same as a coc 3.

I am saving up to get a loading pin a rolling handle and a pinch block.

I don't want to be a gripper specialist it will probably always remain my best "lift" but that is alright.

I just really want to be more well rounded.

I will upload a video of me closing my 300 lbs gripper though I am super close!

 

That's a very nice looking gripper! reminds me of my gold powerball gripper in a way  the spring looks good and deep mounted, which always looks cool. but yeah, for sure xD i get the feeling those two brands mentioned could stay nearly forever, especially since higher resistances like the elite ones wont exactly be closed over and over. even with negatives that seems hard. 

it certainly looks like it would be as tough as a CoC 3. i'll take some snapshots of mine today ! the PgG300 has a deep mount . deeper than my PG350, interestingly ( yet the 350 is still tougher than my 300 ) Looking forward to when you do upload. i and i bet several others are rooting for you   

yeah hopefully the spring cracks/explosions wont happen again, haha. i'll just keep a close lookout on each of the springs incase there might be signs of breakage ( i own 6 grippers right now. all torison of course ) 

I hope you're able to buy your new gear soon! it almost feels like buying a new computer, game or console when gaining exercise gear. i always have been into the colorful ones, especially red, blue, yellow, gold, and whatever else there is. 

[DevilErik]

10 minutes ago, SkyHeart said:

That's a very nice looking gripper! reminds me of my gold powerball gripper in a way  the spring looks good and deep mounted, which always looks cool. but yeah, for sure xD i get the feeling those two brands mentioned could stay nearly forever, especially since higher resistances like the elite ones wont exactly be closed over and over. even with negatives that seems hard. 

it certainly looks like it would be as tough as a CoC 3. i'll take some snapshots of mine today ! the PgG300 has a deep mount . deeper than my PG350, interestingly ( yet the 350 is still tougher than my 300 ) Looking forward to when you do upload. i and i bet several others are rooting for you   

yeah hopefully the spring cracks/explosions wont happen again, haha. i'll just keep a close lookout on each of the springs incase there might be signs of breakage ( i own 6 grippers right now. all torison of course ) 

I hope you're able to buy your new gear soon! it almost feels like buying a new computer, game or console when gaining exercise gear. i always have been into the colorful ones, especially red, blue, yellow, gold, and whatever else there is. 

Thanks! Yeah it is a great spring I think.

It does feel like I am "bending" the gripper when closing it though but I don't know if it's supposed to feel like that.

Coc and GHP are just amazing.

Awesome man.

I appreciate that! I should be able to close it within a few weeks.

You really don't want it to break while squeezing it.

Awesome I own 5 of those golden torsion spring grippers 100 LBS-300 LBS and 2 adjustables the Ivanko Super Gripper and the Vulcan V2 with both the orange and CROM spring.

I should be able to within a few months!

Yeah man it is so freaking awesome I can't wait!

They look pretty awesome!

Edited February 7, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

4 minutes ago, DevilErik said:

Thanks! Yeah it is a great spring I think it does feel like I am "bending" the gripper when closing it though but I don't know if it's supposed to feel like that.

Coc and GHP are just amazing.

Awesome man.

I appreciate that! I should be able to close it within a few weeks.

You really don't want it to break while squeezing it.

Awesome I own 5 of those golden torsion spring grippers 100 LBS-300 LBS and 2 adjustables the Ivanko Super Gripper and the Vulcan V2 with both the orange and CROM spring.

I should be able to within a few months!

Yeah man it is so freaking awesome I can't wait!

They look pretty awesome!

Sometimes I like to take a flashlight, or just study the spring under some kind of direct light source to see, and even feel for suspicious cracks. i noticed with one (my black off brand "250" there is these three tiny specs that seem to have lost the black coating on the spring , and they have a bit of a grainy feeling when running my thumb over it. not sure if its just chipped paint that came off the torison, or if its miniscule nicks on the metal. i check it every so often to see if they get deeper/bigger but, so far they're the same as a month - 2  back when first noticed. 

the bending sensation does sound kind of different.. i wonder if its to due with the brand, or how they set the spring. then again i havent yet closed anything at 300 - beyond in one hand , though i should be able to tell in negs i think? i dont believe it feels like that bend sensation. seems intriguing. 

You'll have it closed in no time  i never owned gold spring grips before, but they look so pretty when pictured online ^-^ then again anything colorful always has a certain charm to it xD i heard a little about Vulcans, and that they seem to have a smooth/even close all the way from start to finish, but cant say i know for sure, due to never using one myself. but the name in itself is very appealing! 

Oh, sidenote. i found out tonight; if you keep a piece of chalk in a tool/jewelry box, it can prevent metal and silvers from rusting, due to absorbing moistures that cause corrosion on metal. you probably knew that already, but i find it cool since im always wondering on different ways to protect my grippers from conditions (other than keeping them inside, and the springs greased ) 

[DevilErik]

9 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

Sometimes I like to take a flashlight, or just study the spring under some kind of direct light source to see, and even feel for suspicious cracks. i noticed with one (my black off brand "250" there is these three tiny specs that seem to have lost the black coating on the spring , and they have a bit of a grainy feeling when running my thumb over it. not sure if its just chipped paint that came off the torison, or if its miniscule nicks on the metal. i check it every so often to see if they get deeper/bigger but, so far they're the same as a month - 2  back when first noticed. 

the bending sensation does sound kind of different.. i wonder if its to due with the brand, or how they set the spring. then again i havent yet closed anything at 300 - beyond in one hand , though i should be able to tell in negs i think? i dont believe it feels like that bend sensation. seems intriguing. 

You'll have it closed in no time  i never owned gold spring grips before, but they look so pretty when pictured online ^-^ then again anything colorful always has a certain charm to it xD i heard a little about Vulcans, and that they seem to have a smooth/even close all the way from start to finish, but cant say i know for sure, due to never using one myself. but the name in itself is very appealing! 

Oh, sidenote. i found out tonight; if you keep a piece of chalk in a tool/jewelry box, it can prevent metal and silvers from rusting, due to absorbing moistures that cause corrosion on metal. you probably knew that already, but i find it cool since im always wondering on different ways to protect my grippers from conditions (other than keeping them inside, and the springs greased ) 

I have never studied my spring like that haha.

I would probably lose my sh1t if I were to find cracks in my gripper.

It feels pretty odd the grippers feel great when closing them though.

 

I hope so man.

Yeah they look awesome.

It depends which of the two springs you are using.

The orange spring acts similar to torsion spring grippers and the CROM spring is INSANELY hard to set and has a difficult sweep but an "easy" close.

I was not able to use it for months due to me not knowing that the CROM spring was this difficult when I got it.

I should have bought it with the orange spring but oh well at least I can finally use it now.

I only do no sets with it my hands are retarded wide so I can actually no set the Vulcan V2.

 

I actually don't mind the rust it makes them more difficult to close haha but thanks for the tip!

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

13 hours ago, DevilErik said:

I have never studied my spring like that haha.

I would probably lose my sh1t if I were to find cracks in my gripper.

It feels pretty odd the grippers feel great when closing them though.

 

I hope so man.

Yeah they look awesome.

It depends which of the two springs you are using.

The orange spring acts similar to torsion spring grippers and the CROM spring is INSANELY hard to set and has a difficult sweep but an "easy" close.

I was not able to use it for months due to me not knowing that the CROM spring was this difficult when I got it.

I should have bought it with the orange spring but oh well at least I can finally use it now.

I only do no sets with it my hands are retarded wide so I can actually no set the Vulcan V2.

 

I actually don't mind the rust it makes them more difficult to close haha but thanks for the tip!

 

i probably study them a little too closely at times. its almost like having ocd in some ways xD it would be pretty annoying to have to replace one if it wasnt already closed thousands of times over the course of months - years. its funny though; before my black 150 snapped, i had an odd sensation that it would, and sure enough it made a low grinding sound, before the "CACK!" echoed through the house lol. 

i wonder if the springs for the adjustables last longer than the "Fixed" grippers that just have a specific resistance torison adjustment.  does CROM stand for anything in particular, or is it like a word in itself? it sounds fancy  orange is an attractive color so that alone would be enough to get my attention. 

did your hands get wider than they were originally after some time of training grips? i kinda noticed a change over the course of a year or two and even found that a pair of gloves felt tighter than the first time wearing them.  its like the added meat in the palms allows for tighter compression around the metal handles, which is great! 

very true about the rust, it makes a difference  for the longest time, i didn't even know that the black coating on springs was made of powder. i thought it was just some kind of rubber or even paint xD 

how is your day/night going so far? 

 

[DevilErik]

37 minutes ago, SkyHeart said:

i probably study them a little too closely at times. its almost like having ocd in some ways xD it would be pretty annoying to have to replace one if it wasnt already closed thousands of times over the course of months - years. its funny though; before my black 150 snapped, i had an odd sensation that it would, and sure enough it made a low grinding sound, before the "CACK!" echoed through the house lol. 

i wonder if the springs for the adjustables last longer than the "Fixed" grippers that just have a specific resistance torison adjustment.  does CROM stand for anything in particular, or is it like a word in itself? it sounds fancy  orange is an attractive color so that alone would be enough to get my attention. 

did your hands get wider than they were originally after some time of training grips? i kinda noticed a change over the course of a year or two and even found that a pair of gloves felt tighter than the first time wearing them.  its like the added meat in the palms allows for tighter compression around the metal handles, which is great! 

very true about the rust, it makes a difference  for the longest time, i didn't even know that the black coating on springs was made of powder. i thought it was just some kind of rubber or even paint xD 

how is your day/night going so far? 

 

Haha

That would definitely be annoying.

I would've never touched it If I had the feeling it was going to snap haha.

Damn that is crazy.

I think they do because you can actually move them around and take them off I am not entirely sure though.

And the best part is that they are replaceable unlike the ones with the "fixed" springs.

Some people say it stands for Chrome but that seems strange I have no idea what it stands for.

I love the orange spring for no sets.

 

 

My hands have gotten retarded thick and wide from just training grippers.

I will probably get some kind of monster hands once I get into thickbar and pinch lol.

My palms have gotten super meaty, whenever I put my thumb on the side of my hand the meat between my thumb and the side of my hand looks like a walnut.

The back of my hand has gotten retarded wide.

My thumb pad has gotten crazy big and my pinky pad has grown a tiny bit.

 

Also my ulnar wrist tendon has gotten crazy thick whenever I deviate my wrist I can feel this super thick cable running across my forearm.

It's probably from levering but I think grippers have contributed as well.

I didn't know that haha.

 

My day has been great I trained grippers today.

It's night now I am just chilling watching tv.

How's yours been?

 

Edited February 8, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

5 hours ago, DevilErik said:

Haha

That would definitely be annoying.

I would've never touched it If I had the feeling it was going to snap haha.

Damn that is crazy.

I think they do because you can actually move them around and take them off I am not entirely sure though.

And the best part is that they are replaceable unlike the ones with the "fixed" springs.

Some people say it stands for Chrome but that seems strange I have no idea what it stands for.

I love the orange spring for no sets.

 

 

My hands have gotten retarded thick and wide from just training grippers.

I will probably get some kind of monster hands once I get into thickbar and pinch lol.

My palms have gotten super meaty, whenever I put my thumb on the side of my hand the meat between my thumb and the side of my hand looks like a walnut.

The back of my hand has gotten retarded wide.

My thumb pad has gotten crazy big and my pinky pad has grown a tiny bit.

 

Also my ulnar wrist tendon has gotten crazy thick whenever I deviate my wrist I can feel this super thick cable running across my forearm.

It's probably from levering but I think grippers have contributed as well.

I didn't know that haha.

 

My day has been great I trained grippers today.

It's night now I am just chilling watching tv.

How's yours been?

 

Kind of makes me wonder how many people have snapped the spring of an off brand gripper and hurt their hand with it... or one time looked up close to it in an unsafe range while closing it and it breaking. reason i say off brand is since theres many out there who buy them but arent gripper enthusiasts like us. I honestly had no idea that the springs are replaceable for the adjustables, thats even cooler! (well i knew about the ones like the super gripper since it comes in a set) 

wait, are you also talking about the ones that have the same handles as a fixed gripper but have a can opener looking mechanism and are usually between 55 - 198 lbs ?  no idea if my description makes sense lol. 

CROM was my guess but didn't want to assume. its really clever and i can see why it would be successfully sold  

lol xD "retarded wide" i love your way of saying it. sounds comical but serious at the same time.  the way you describe how your hands and fingers have grown are super impressive! speaking of which; i kinda noticed whenever i kinda squeeze my joints and wrists , like feeling for soreness after training , my wrists somehow "Feel" more dense. like theres a sleeping power within them waiting to be used. it feels really cool and gives me a sense of security. 

levering does seem like it would do that. when examining your sledge hammer training, the angles and lifts look like they would be tough to master, especially repping them slowly the way you did. as for the thickbar, i've still yet to look into that , thanks for the reminder  

i just settled into my room not long ago and am listening to scary narrated stories on youtube (been doing that since 2014  .. or maybe 2015 xD )  i'm glad you're having a peaceful night ! i listen to stories way more often than simply reading them. lol, maybe because its easier for my preferences. 

[Jermiah Merciconah]

I got me a golden gripper myself, This thing is good bit harder than golden grippers from makers like armlifting greece, I've gotten close to closing it but its still slightly out of reach

 

[DevilErik]

7 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

Kind of makes me wonder how many people have snapped the spring of an off brand gripper and hurt their hand with it... or one time looked up close to it in an unsafe range while closing it and it breaking. reason i say off brand is since theres many out there who buy them but arent gripper enthusiasts like us. I honestly had no idea that the springs are replaceable for the adjustables, thats even cooler! (well i knew about the ones like the super gripper since it comes in a set) 

wait, are you also talking about the ones that have the same handles as a fixed gripper but have a can opener looking mechanism and are usually between 55 - 198 lbs ?  no idea if my description makes sense lol. 

CROM was my guess but didn't want to assume. its really clever and i can see why it would be successfully sold  

lol xD "retarded wide" i love your way of saying it. sounds comical but serious at the same time.  the way you describe how your hands and fingers have grown are super impressive! speaking of which; i kinda noticed whenever i kinda squeeze my joints and wrists , like feeling for soreness after training , my wrists somehow "Feel" more dense. like theres a sleeping power within them waiting to be used. it feels really cool and gives me a sense of security. 

levering does seem like it would do that. when examining your sledge hammer training, the angles and lifts look like they would be tough to master, especially repping them slowly the way you did. as for the thickbar, i've still yet to look into that , thanks for the reminder  

i just settled into my room not long ago and am listening to scary narrated stories on youtube (been doing that since 2014  .. or maybe 2015 xD )  i'm glad you're having a peaceful night ! i listen to stories way more often than simply reading them. lol, maybe because its easier for my preferences. 

I would never get an off brand gripper for that reason.

The only reason why I bought my golden grip grippers is because they have a lifetime warranty and you immediately get new ones if there's something wrong with them after shipping.

I was talking about the Vulcan V2, the Ivanko super gripper and the baraban adjustable.

Haha thanks.

My hands aren't necessarily super thick now but the amount they have grown is insane.

I have the same thing but after my recovery.

I feel very weak after my training but once I am done with my recovery I feel somewhat strong again and I have that sleeping power feeling as well.

It used to give me that feeling as well but I don't really pay attention to it anymore.

I have days on which my grip feels weak and I am just as strong on those days.

 

Levering is insanely difficult it didn't take me long to lever this hammer though It seems that I am pretty gifted when it comes to wrist strength.

I had never really done wrist or forearm training and it was a matter of months until I could facelever this hammer.

You have to do it slowly or else you can risk snapping your wrist in half it feels very unstable.

Get a pair of fatgripz and start lifting.

Blue ones for small hands or Extremes for normal/large hands.

I appreciate that man!

Haha I don't really read or listen to stories I am not a fan of books.

Edited February 8, 2022 by DevilErik

[DevilErik]

3 hours ago, Jermiah Merciconah said:

I got me a golden gripper myself, This thing is good bit harder than golden grippers from makers like armlifting greece, I've gotten close to closing it but its still slightly out of reach

 

Awesome man!

Yeah that one is insanely hard!

Mine is pretty much equal to a no.3 that one is WAY harder!

Closing that with any set is super impressive!

Edited February 8, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

On 2/8/2022 at 3:03 AM, Jermiah Merciconah said:

I got me a golden gripper myself, This thing is good bit harder than golden grippers from makers like armlifting greece, I've gotten close to closing it but its still slightly out of reach

 

You'll have those handles meeting before you know it  

Congratulations in advance! 

the spring looks pretty similar to my gold "PG" thickness, the way its positioned and all (Well actually mine has an uneven mount, but still closes just fine and has very accurate difficulty) 

just a tidbit closer to shutting my GHP9 with my assisting hand/arm. not a big deal but it just feels cool to know that the little signs of progress are there  

[SkyHeart]

21 hours ago, DevilErik said:

I would never get an off brand gripper for that reason.

The only reason why I bought my golden grip grippers is because they have a lifetime warranty and you immediately get new ones if there's something wrong with them after shipping.

I was talking about the Vulcan V2, the Ivanko super gripper and the baraban adjustable.

Haha thanks.

My hands aren't necessarily super thick now but the amount they have grown is insane.

I have the same thing but after my recovery.

I feel very weak after my training but once I am done with my recovery I feel somewhat strong again and I have that sleeping power feeling as well.

It used to give me that feeling as well but I don't really pay attention to it anymore.

I have days on which my grip feels weak and I am just as strong on those days.

 

Levering is insanely difficult it didn't take me long to lever this hammer though It seems that I am pretty gifted when it comes to wrist strength.

I had never really done wrist or forearm training and it was a matter of months until I could facelever this hammer.

You have to do it slowly or else you can risk snapping your wrist in half it feels very unstable.

Get a pair of fatgripz and start lifting.

Blue ones for small hands or Extremes for normal/large hands.

I appreciate that man!

Haha I don't really read or listen to stories I am not a fan of books.

I'm noticing that its getting easier to rep with my off 250, especially when i keep it positioned against my palm with the opposite hand's thumb, so it seems like a good sense of encouragement to keep reaching for the 300 status  though i keep checking my 250 after each few sets to make sure there isn't any pending danger. kind of adventurous in an edgy way

lifetime warranties are always superior, so i would have taken up the offer as well. good going on that find! 

I had a feeling you meant those, but got myself a little mixed up. i'm always associating "this with that" even without realizing then i confuse someone else, myself. then everyone laughs, including the toaster, lol. 

in ten years they will probably be even thicker, especially with the help of your wrists and those leverage exercises. it kinda looks like you're keeping the hammer from landing on your face in the video, or is that just the angle of the shot? o: 

when i try the 50 - 80 percent effort thing on my grips, it seems to give me a psychological reassurance that i'm on the way to where i want to be, and that its okay not to take the leap of faith, aka 95 - 100 effort right away, but when i feel ready in that day of training.  Matter of fact, since using that method, the "Feeling weak" doesnt seem to stay with me nearly as often. after a few light efforts and some waiting for myself to wake up fully, my strength rolls in consistently and shows how far along i am. feels great to have figured out a method to get around that mental blockage

still fascinates me how these can be worked with differently by so many of us. different strategies, angles, effort styles and such. 

i'm looking forward to trying out some fat handles ! kinda noticed that warm up reps with light grips arent even necessary for me. if i just position my 250, or even 300 correctly and work with that in minimal to medium effort for a moment, then wait a few minutes, that works mighty fine. 

the hammer movements do look like they seriously pressure the wrists to adapt or crack. like. without a doubt. it seems like it would be great for many carry overs , though i cant think to name what they are at the moment, what with me being a scatter-head xD 

i know what you mean about books, i'm so selective about the kind of stories, games, movies, or anything involving a series that i'll get into. more so now than in childhood. though writing things myself is no issue at all, once breaking past the "beginning" barrier. its always breaking the ice that seems toughest for some reason. 

 

[DevilErik]

3 minutes ago, SkyHeart said:

I'm noticing that its getting easier to rep with my off 250, especially when i keep it positioned against my palm with the opposite hand's thumb, so it seems like a good sense of encouragement to keep reaching for the 300 status  though i keep checking my 250 after each few sets to make sure there isn't any pending danger. kind of adventurous in an edgy way

lifetime warranties are always superior, so i would have taken up the offer as well. good going on that find! 

I had a feeling you meant those, but got myself a little mixed up. i'm always associating "this with that" even without realizing then i confuse someone else, myself. then everyone laughs, including the toaster, lol. 

in ten years they will probably be even thicker, especially with the help of your wrists and those leverage exercises. it kinda looks like you're keeping the hammer from landing on your face in the video, or is that just the angle of the shot? o: 

when i try the 50 - 80 percent effort thing on my grips, it seems to give me a psychological reassurance that i'm on the way to where i want to be, and that its okay not to take the leap of faith, aka 95 - 100 effort right away, but when i feel ready in that day of training.  Matter of fact, since using that method, the "Feeling weak" doesnt seem to stay with me nearly as often. after a few light efforts and some waiting for myself to wake up fully, my strength rolls in consistently and shows how far along i am. feels great to have figured out a method to get around that mental blockage

still fascinates me how these can be worked with differently by so many of us. different strategies, angles, effort styles and such. 

i'm looking forward to trying out some fat handles ! kinda noticed that warm up reps with light grips arent even necessary for me. if i just position my 250, or even 300 correctly and work with that in minimal to medium effort for a moment, then wait a few minutes, that works mighty fine. 

the hammer movements do look like they seriously pressure the wrists to adapt or crack. like. without a doubt. it seems like it would be great for many carry overs , though i cant think to name what they are at the moment, what with me being a scatter-head xD 

i know what you mean about books, i'm so selective about the kind of stories, games, movies, or anything involving a series that i'll get into. more so now than in childhood. though writing things myself is no issue at all, once breaking past the "beginning" barrier. its always breaking the ice that seems toughest for some reason. 

 

You will get the 300 man.

Haha we all have our kinks I guess.

 

They were cheap as well 5 grippers for 60 euros.

Lifetime warranties are great.

Haha that is pretty funny.

 

Yeah I think so too the knurling also sort of stretches my skin that in combination with the friction from levering seems to thicken up my skin.

I am keeping the hammer from landing on my face it's not the angle haha.

 

That is awesome man I am glad you've found a way around it!

 

We will all reach our goals with our own training methods.

I am using Nathan's program for grippers though not my own.

That's awesome I jump from a trainer straight into a 300 haha.

Fat handles build serious strength.

 

 

Levering is one of the best things you can do for wrist strength.

 

 

Same here.

I dislike reading and I am bad at writing haha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SkyHeart]

18 hours ago, DevilErik said:

You will get the 300 man.

Haha we all have our kinks I guess.

 

They were cheap as well 5 grippers for 60 euros.

Lifetime warranties are great.

Haha that is pretty funny.

 

Yeah I think so too the knurling also sort of stretches my skin that in combination with the friction from levering seems to thicken up my skin.

I am keeping the hammer from landing on my face it's not the angle haha.

 

That is awesome man I am glad you've found a way around it!

 

We will all reach our goals with our own training methods.

I am using Nathan's program for grippers though not my own.

That's awesome I jump from a trainer straight into a 300 haha.

Fat handles build serious strength.

 

 

Levering is one of the best things you can do for wrist strength.

 

 

Same here.

I dislike reading and I am bad at writing haha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks a bunch for your continued encouragement  5 for 60 would get my attention as well. i think that would make them 12 a piece right? i managed to get my black one for 7 dollars due to having amazon prime as a free trial during the period i browsed for one of that resistance. felt like a real steal  

keeping a hammer from one's face surely would make it more motivational to lever it steadily. unless some are into self bonking intentionally. saying that just made me think of an episode in spongebob where he and patrick are running side by side, hitting their own heads with hammers

speaking of friction, i noticed the handles on my grips condition the skin differently than when i was using chalk ( though chalks good for those occasions when i want to squeeze with my all and not worry about a slight slip messing it up and flunking my drive ) at first i just had a couple callouses on a few finger pads. not all but like the middle, ring or index. now i have calloused layers developing on around half the palm, maybe a bit less. felt odd at first but now im getting accustomed to it. seems the same as how feet develop hard skin due to all the pressure of us walking every day right?

i'm kinda curious, what is Nathan's program? all i know is how superb his hand strength is , especially with grippers  

only gripper i have is that little black bagel i may have mentioned. it says "50" but its probably more like 15 pounds of pressure if even that xD i've repped it over and over and over. and. you know, over  

thanks for the mention of levering, im going to look more into that  

[DevilErik]

8 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

Thanks a bunch for your continued encouragement  5 for 60 would get my attention as well. i think that would make them 12 a piece right? i managed to get my black one for 7 dollars due to having amazon prime as a free trial during the period i browsed for one of that resistance. felt like a real steal  

keeping a hammer from one's face surely would make it more motivational to lever it steadily. unless some are into self bonking intentionally. saying that just made me think of an episode in spongebob where he and patrick are running side by side, hitting their own heads with hammers

speaking of friction, i noticed the handles on my grips condition the skin differently than when i was using chalk ( though chalks good for those occasions when i want to squeeze with my all and not worry about a slight slip messing it up and flunking my drive ) at first i just had a couple callouses on a few finger pads. not all but like the middle, ring or index. now i have calloused layers developing on around half the palm, maybe a bit less. felt odd at first but now im getting accustomed to it. seems the same as how feet develop hard skin due to all the pressure of us walking every day right?

i'm kinda curious, what is Nathan's program? all i know is how superb his hand strength is , especially with grippers  

only gripper i have is that little black bagel i may have mentioned. it says "50" but its probably more like 15 pounds of pressure if even that xD i've repped it over and over and over. and. you know, over  

thanks for the mention of levering, im going to look more into that  

You are welcome man.

Yeah 12 a piece.

7 dollars damn now THAT is cheap.

It definitely is haha.

I would probably crack my skull in half if I were to go and self bonk with this thing I am not spongebob or patrick haha.

I always use chalk it's dangerous in my opinion to do anything without chalk.

I rip my hands open all the time but I don't care haha.

I guess it works like that I am not sure.

 

I copied this from his reddit q and a if I remember correctly he said it was okay to share it around.

It's 3 times a week deep sets on the heavy days and the light day speaks for itself.

I took a screenshot of it I will post it below.

He is a monster.

Haha.

No problem man start out with an 8 lbs hammer and work your way up.

You just choke up on the handle until you can do what I did in the video.

You can also train all angles with it.

Wrist flexion, wrist extension,radial deviation,ulnar deviation,pronation,supination and circumduction.

I personally also do leverage hammer and reverse curls with it.

 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

On 2/10/2022 at 7:20 AM, DevilErik said:

You are welcome man.

Yeah 12 a piece.

7 dollars damn now THAT is cheap.

It definitely is haha.

I would probably crack my skull in half if I were to go and self bonk with this thing I am not spongebob or patrick haha.

I always use chalk it's dangerous in my opinion to do anything without chalk.

I rip my hands open all the time but I don't care haha.

I guess it works like that I am not sure.

 

I copied this from his reddit q and a if I remember correctly he said it was okay to share it around.

It's 3 times a week deep sets on the heavy days and the light day speaks for itself.

I took a screenshot of it I will post it below.

He is a monster.

Haha.

No problem man start out with an 8 lbs hammer and work your way up.

You just choke up on the handle until you can do what I did in the video.

You can also train all angles with it.

Wrist flexion, wrist extension,radial deviation,ulnar deviation,pronation,supination and circumduction.

I personally also do leverage hammer and reverse curls with it.

 

 

 

Very cheap xD it actually looks and performs nicely for that price too. like. the handle spread is equal to a CoC or GHP tuned to its resistance. like a CoC 2 or Ghp 5. it has this ring in the middle of each handle, and its closes are smooth. but that could be because i keep the spring protected with a thin layer of oil and always keep them indoors where its always in the 60s - 70s, temp wise  

i hope your hammer training continues to go without any bonks being involved xD it looks kind of intimidating if im being honest. about training with/without chalk though; its a little comical in a way. with it, theres more chance of ripping, without it, it can cause slips/ injuries. its like either way there is a risk lol. i do like how chalk allows me to give a maximum one time attempt due to that clingyness it lets me hold on with. 

by the way, thanks kindly for linking me with this, it looks promising and fun to read up on! even after finding a method that seems to work, its still cool to check out other methods that fellow grip lovers are using. like a "just incase" accessory to have around in the memory. 

i was thinking earlier; if i had to keep one gripper and choose between one i can easy rep with, one i can "kind of" or just one i can only do negatives with, i would choose the one thats too strong without negs, since i kind of feel like it can be worked up to with enough patience. 

also, when first beginning, i had a pair of off brand "150s" that i couldnt even budge slightly in one hand, but while training with those super light foam ones on the side, i'd occasionally try the 150 until able to close it within a month or two. but then again that was technically a beginner level for males so i cant say im 110 percent sure  

im not sure what made me bring this up, just felt like throwing it in there xD 

 

[DevilErik]

3 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

Very cheap xD it actually looks and performs nicely for that price too. like. the handle spread is equal to a CoC or GHP tuned to its resistance. like a CoC 2 or Ghp 5. it has this ring in the middle of each handle, and its closes are smooth. but that could be because i keep the spring protected with a thin layer of oil and always keep them indoors where its always in the 60s - 70s, temp wise  

i hope your hammer training continues to go without any bonks being involved xD it looks kind of intimidating if im being honest. about training with/without chalk though; its a little comical in a way. with it, theres more chance of ripping, without it, it can cause slips/ injuries. its like either way there is a risk lol. i do like how chalk allows me to give a maximum one time attempt due to that clingyness it lets me hold on with. 

by the way, thanks kindly for linking me with this, it looks promising and fun to read up on! even after finding a method that seems to work, its still cool to check out other methods that fellow grip lovers are using. like a "just incase" accessory to have around in the memory. 

i was thinking earlier; if i had to keep one gripper and choose between one i can easy rep with, one i can "kind of" or just one i can only do negatives with, i would choose the one thats too strong without negs, since i kind of feel like it can be worked up to with enough patience. 

also, when first beginning, i had a pair of off brand "150s" that i couldnt even budge slightly in one hand, but while training with those super light foam ones on the side, i'd occasionally try the 150 until able to close it within a month or two. but then again that was technically a beginner level for males so i cant say im 110 percent sure  

im not sure what made me bring this up, just felt like throwing it in there xD 

 

Damn that is awesome.

Haha I guess that's a good idea considering the price of them xD

I appreciate that man I will make sure I won't bonk myself haha.

It does look intimidating and it is haha but it does teach you to control the weight really well.

That's true I prefer the ripping though I'd rather rip my skin than tear a muscle or a tendon.

You are welcome man.

I have the same thing I have also thought of doing negatives but I can't set and I just don't want to risk getting injured.

Nathan's program is working really well for me despite me not using a set so I will stick with it.

I am always making progress whether it's on the attempts or the reps and I love that.

I'd do the same thing I'd take the one that is slightly out of reach and do attempts with it.

 

Haha that's still pretty cool though.

[SkyHeart]

21 hours ago, DevilErik said:

Damn that is awesome.

Haha I guess that's a good idea considering the price of them xD

I appreciate that man I will make sure I won't bonk myself haha.

It does look intimidating and it is haha but it does teach you to control the weight really well.

That's true I prefer the ripping though I'd rather rip my skin than tear a muscle or a tendon.

You are welcome man.

I have the same thing I have also thought of doing negatives but I can't set and I just don't want to risk getting injured.

Nathan's program is working really well for me despite me not using a set so I will stick with it.

I am always making progress whether it's on the attempts or the reps and I love that.

I'd do the same thing I'd take the one that is slightly out of reach and do attempts with it.

 

Haha that's still pretty cool though.

i'll have to remember to be more cautious whenever not using chalk, since that is most certainly true; the slipping and awkwardness can break something worse. i didn't train today due to a lack of sleep ( one of those insomnia episodes ) but thankfully feel tired enough to say i may sleep through this time. 

i hope you had a splendid day and night

i did notice that too many negs too soon does overwhelm some phalanxes , made evident by some soreness the next morning or two when waking up. nothing devastating but, still : P 

im not sure i yet asked, but did you become interested in sledge hammer training first, or grips? its super to know you're progressing gracefully ^ u ^ 

(lol. bonk. still a funny word to me. all i can think of is video games or cartoons with that xD )

[DevilErik]

3 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

i'll have to remember to be more cautious whenever not using chalk, since that is most certainly true; the slipping and awkwardness can break something worse. i didn't train today due to a lack of sleep ( one of those insomnia episodes ) but thankfully feel tired enough to say i may sleep through this time. 

i hope you had a splendid day and night

i did notice that too many negs too soon does overwhelm some phalanxes , made evident by some soreness the next morning or two when waking up. nothing devastating but, still : P 

im not sure i yet asked, but did you become interested in sledge hammer training first, or grips? its super to know you're progressing gracefully ^ u ^ 

(lol. bonk. still a funny word to me. all i can think of is video games or cartoons with that xD )

It's up to you whether to use chalk or not I personally use chalk all the time the risk of something slipping and injuring yourself is way too high.

That sucks man hopefully you'll sleep through this time.

I had a good day and night thank you.

 

That is not a good thing be careful with that.

I got interested in training grippers first.

Thanks man I am trying to be patient and it is working.

I have come to realise that it's better to progress slow and steady instead of progressing faster and ending up stalling for several weeks if not months.

Slow and steady will eventually get me further in grip.

I did have to get used to progressing more slowly at first but the moment I realised I wasn't stalling anymore I was able to accept it.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

On 2/13/2022 at 6:44 AM, DevilErik said:

It's up to you whether to use chalk or not I personally use chalk all the time the risk of something slipping and injuring yourself is way too high.

That sucks man hopefully you'll sleep through this time.

I had a good day and night thank you.

 

That is not a good thing be careful with that.

I got interested in training grippers first.

Thanks man I am trying to be patient and it is working.

I have come to realise that it's better to progress slow and steady instead of progressing faster and ending up stalling for several weeks if not months.

Slow and steady will eventually get me further in grip.

I did have to get used to progressing more slowly at first but the moment I realised I wasn't stalling anymore I was able to accept it.

 

 

 

 

Sometimes it is a little tricky to angle the bars for negatives without the chalk, and the friction on my skin doesnt change much, so i guess either way , both have their pros and cons, though i may start using chalk a little more again xD Sleep came easily the next day! i'm going through today doing negatives with my 300 off and on to see if i can do more than the last time i spent all day with it. over a period of hours of course , not all at once

Also, happy Valentine's Day!

Same with me! no matter what i may train with down the road, i think grippers will always be no.1 for me -fist bumps-  

Oh hey, speaking of grips, i was curious. do any of your gripper springs have like, a weird dent look at one of the bases near where it connects with the handle? i noticed that with one of mine, the 300 as a matter of fact. ive seen that with one other i used to own of a similar difficulty, but everything else seems okay. the handle spread, smoothness of close, etc. its not really a concern, more out of curiosity. 

i'm glad that you're set on safety before all else! i have to remind myself that often, even now with what ive either learned or have been advised xD 

[DevilErik]

7 minutes ago, SkyHeart said:

Sometimes it is a little tricky to angle the bars for negatives without the chalk, and the friction on my skin doesnt change much, so i guess either way , both have their pros and cons, though i may start using chalk a little more again xD Sleep came easily the next day! i'm going through today doing negatives with my 300 off and on to see if i can do more than the last time i spent all day with it. over a period of hours of course , not all at once

Also, happy Valentine's Day!

Same with me! no matter what i may train with down the road, i think grippers will always be no.1 for me -fist bumps-  

Oh hey, speaking of grips, i was curious. do any of your gripper springs have like, a weird dent look at one of the bases near where it connects with the handle? i noticed that with one of mine, the 300 as a matter of fact. ive seen that with one other i used to own of a similar difficulty, but everything else seems okay. the handle spread, smoothness of close, etc. its not really a concern, more out of curiosity. 

i'm glad that you're set on safety before all else! i have to remind myself that often, even now with what ive either learned or have been advised xD 

I don't do negatives so I didn't know that.

Good to hear man!

Damn that sounds intense!

Thanks man you too.

I have never paid attention to that I will have to check.

 

The last time I got injured I lost all of my strength and it seems like I am still not progressing as fast as I used to but I am sure that'll come back.

I understand that I also used to be a bit reckless sometimes because I only cared about making progress.

 

Edited February 14, 2022 by DevilErik

[SkyHeart]

1 hour ago, DevilErik said:

I don't do negatives so I didn't know that.

Good to hear man!

Damn that sounds intense!

Thanks man you too.

I have never paid attention to that I will have to check.

 

The last time I got injured I lost all of my strength and it seems like I am still not progressing as fast as I used to but I am sure that'll come back.

I understand that I also used to be a bit reckless sometimes because I only cared about making progress.

 

i only spend a couple days out of the month doing it, since it is a lot of negs and uses a lot of CNS and tendon energy , but seems to add a boost slowly to progressing  

its so strange how injuries can condition our inner environment. i heard that its not muscle size, but rather; the mind that keeps us from having even strength with some animals. Like, that the brain apparently signals us to have a certain strength limit so as not to give ourselves injuries while handling some crazy load that a monkey, horse or bear would think nothing of engaging with. it seems plausible really, when considering what a handful of humans have accomplished in ( and probably out of ) world records. 

Whatever is keeping you from progressing past, i hope you get through it asap and make yourself some new records  i believe you're more than capable of it!

[DevilErik]

Just now, SkyHeart said:

i only spend a couple days out of the month doing it, since it is a lot of negs and uses a lot of CNS and tendon energy , but seems to add a boost slowly to progressing  

its so strange how injuries can condition our inner environment. i heard that its not muscle size, but rather; the mind that keeps us from having even strength with some animals. Like, that the brain apparently signals us to have a certain strength limit so as not to give ourselves injuries while handling some crazy load that a monkey, horse or bear would think nothing of engaging with. it seems plausible really, when considering what a handful of humans have accomplished in ( and probably out of ) world records. 

Whatever is keeping you from progressing past, i hope you get through it asap and make yourself some new records  i believe you're more than capable of it!

I can imagine they must be brutal.

That sounds pretty interesting.

I appreciate that man!

I am going to focus on the Vulcan for a while and take a break from my Ivanko Super Gripper.

It is really hard for me to progress on it for some reason so instead of getting frustrated I am just going to focus on my 300 lbs gripper and my Vulcan for a couple of weeks.

I am a hair away from closing the 300 and I have been making good progress with my Vulcan.

Despite the injury being my own dumb fault it is pretty damn hard to see whether or not the handles are actually touching on the Ivanko they are supposed to make a clicking sound but that rarely ever happens.

I would have been sure about the close and I wouldn't have gotten injured if I had gotten a different adjustable or torsion spring grippers but oh well sh1t happens I will eventually come back stronger.

[SkyHeart]

5 hours ago, DevilErik said:

I can imagine they must be brutal.

That sounds pretty interesting.

I appreciate that man!

I am going to focus on the Vulcan for a while and take a break from my Ivanko Super Gripper.

It is really hard for me to progress on it for some reason so instead of getting frustrated I am just going to focus on my 300 lbs gripper and my Vulcan for a couple of weeks.

I am a hair away from closing the 300 and I have been making good progress with my Vulcan.

Despite the injury being my own dumb fault it is pretty damn hard to see whether or not the handles are actually touching on the Ivanko they are supposed to make a clicking sound but that rarely ever happens.

I would have been sure about the close and I wouldn't have gotten injured if I had gotten a different adjustable or torsion spring grippers but oh well sh1t happens I will eventually come back stronger.

I didn't really notice this at first, but after a few times (including today) i've noticed that when doing a lot of negatives with a heavy gripper in one day, it leaves a light, but noticeable sensation of pressure in my head. So i guess i won't be using that strategy again xD seems like a few heavy negatives are the best bet , but beyond that it just becomes strain. 

giving encouragement is the least i can do, and its always a pleasure! i also thank you for your motivation you provide  

i can imagine the switching between grippers will give your hands that sense of versatility and adaption. its always that "hair away from closing "bit that seems the most anxious and seems to take even longer than the last half inch period doesn't it? xD especially since at times its hard to tell if there was a close or not. 

you have a lot of commitment for getting through that and continuing to train with as much optimism as you do. i admire that a lot and wish i could be that patient sometimes its a funny combination, being persistent but not calm about it xD i guess thats what leads to injuries and the whole over self hyping habit. 

you'll absolutely come through and flourish! i can picture you giving the update here on GripBoard already!

[DevilErik]

5 hours ago, SkyHeart said:

I didn't really notice this at first, but after a few times (including today) i've noticed that when doing a lot of negatives with a heavy gripper in one day, it leaves a light, but noticeable sensation of pressure in my head. So i guess i won't be using that strategy again xD seems like a few heavy negatives are the best bet , but beyond that it just becomes strain. 

giving encouragement is the least i can do, and its always a pleasure! i also thank you for your motivation you provide  

i can imagine the switching between grippers will give your hands that sense of versatility and adaption. its always that "hair away from closing "bit that seems the most anxious and seems to take even longer than the last half inch period doesn't it? xD especially since at times its hard to tell if there was a close or not. 

you have a lot of commitment for getting through that and continuing to train with as much optimism as you do. i admire that a lot and wish i could be that patient sometimes its a funny combination, being persistent but not calm about it xD i guess thats what leads to injuries and the whole over self hyping habit. 

you'll absolutely come through and flourish! i can picture you giving the update here on GripBoard already!

Exertion headaches suck I used to get them in regular resistance training.

I often tend to hold my breath while exerting myself which causes me to get them even faster.

 

I appreciate that man! 

You are welcome!

Getting people motivated and watching them smash PR's is awesome.

 

Yeah I really have to take a break from the gripper.

It can be very frustrating at times especially because of the gripper not making the clicking sound.

The only time I am 100% sure about my close is when I smash the handles together and pretty much overcrush them.

It's pretty damn clear when using torsion spring grippers or the vulcan.

Half an inch can take months and it sucks.

 

 

I appreciate that man.

I often tell myself to not be a little b1tch about it and just keep pushing haha.

This often helps.

 

Self hyping can be disastrous and as soon as you are used to doing things calmly you won't ever need it anymore.

Hyping yourself up is VERY bad for your recovery.

Also the anger really doesn't do anything at least it didn't for me it was all in my head.

 

 

I will!

I am going to focus on my Vulcan with the orange spring and get to the highest setting with an ultra wide set which is basically wider than a no set on a regular gripper.

I set it a tiny distance so I can get my pinky on the handle.

I used to do no sets but it sometimes locks up my pinky and it also causes the gripper to slide a lot while closing which is super dangerous.

Also the range of motion barely gets reduced because of the size of my hands.