Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) It seems now there has been a change to the roster, as you can see here- Edited April 11 by Londonjoseph 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I googled it and know what you are trying to point out, but you posted the same pic twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, DoctorOfCrush said: I googled it and know what you are trying to point out, but you posted the same pic twice. I edited it. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftyzig Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Tallent Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I see what’s missing and I wish I had more context …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, Gabriel Tallent said: I see what’s missing and I wish I had more context …. I'm assuming the person removed is gone because he was using his thigh to assist with the lift on the rolling thunder. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I don’t think there is any reason to be coy. Looks like @C8Myotome was removed. He’s a valued community member and has earned some respect. Right now, we don’t know what happened, possibly he requested to be removed? He trains hard and is getting stronger all the time so my feeling is he could knock out a re-cert whenever he wanted. I hope he gets back up there Uplift and lift heavy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, Cannon said: I don’t think there is any reason to be coy. Looks like @C8Myotome was removed. He’s a valued community member and has earned some respect. Right now, we don’t know what happened, possibly he requested to be removed? He trains hard and is getting stronger all the time so my feeling is he could knock out a re-cert whenever he wanted. I hope he gets back up there Uplift and lift heavy. @Londonjoseph you forgot to say nanny nanny boo boo. I'm heavily invested in preparing for the 3.5 cert, and I don't care about armlifting, I don't train it or pay any attention to it. The reasons anything happened isn't anyone's business, you'll need to find something else to whine about now. Maybe eventually I'll get around to re-doing this cert when I don't have much going on; at the moment it's not even on my radar. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, C8Myotome said: @Londonjoseph you forgot to say nanny nanny boo boo. I'm heavily invested in preparing for the 3.5 cert, and I don't care about armlifting, I don't train it or pay any attention to it. The reasons anything happened isn't anyone's business, you'll need to find something else to whine about now. Maybe eventually I'll get around to re-doing this cert when I don't have much going on; at the moment it's not even on my radar. That's fine and good. All I know is a certification that was not legitimate has been removed, and rightfully so. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 12 minutes ago, Cannon said: Uplift and lift heavy. This x1000 should be on a banner on this forum somewhere 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, Londonjoseph said: That's fine and good. All I know is a certification that was not legitimate has been removed, and rightfully so. If that's what Ironmind wants that's fine with me, it's their cert to judge, and I was only going by what they had initially told me. If they decided it wasn't legit I'm fine with that, although I would have preferred they never passed it in that place. If I get around to re-doing it I will probably stand on something to get like 6-8 inches higher and have the handle start at my knee so there is no question about leg contact. It does not make sense that they make everyone use a 15" pin regardless of height. Yves is 2 inches shorter than me and his lift looks like pure lumbar extension and I don't want to lift 200 lbs like that. They would not allow me to use a shorter pin to be able to get adequate leg drive via quads, and with the handle inches from crotch height before even bending the knee, there was incidental leg contact no matter how I placed my feet. I don't think 45's are enough to make a height difference, if someone knows of an object 6-8 inches that work better feel free to message me; I am not an armlifter so I don't pay attention to this kind of training, although I probably won't get around to this for a while as I am not losing focus on the 3.5 cert. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: If that's what Ironmind wants that's fine with me, it's their cert to judge, and I was only going by what they had initially told me. If they decided it wasn't legit I'm fine with that, although I would have preferred they never passed it in that place. If I get around to re-doing it I will probably stand on something to get like 6-8 inches higher and have the handle start at my knee so there is no question about leg contact. It does not make sense that they make everyone use a 15" pin regardless of height. Yves is 2 inches shorter than me and his lift looks like pure lumbar extension and I don't want to lift 200 lbs like that. They would not allow me to use a shorter pin to be able to get adequate leg drive via quads, and with the handle inches from crotch height before even bending the knee, there was incidental leg contact no matter how I placed my feet. I don't think 45's are enough to make a height difference, if someone knows of an object 6-8 inches that work better feel free to message me; I am not an armlifter so I don't pay attention to this kind of training, although I probably won't get around to this for a while as I am not losing focus on the 3.5 cert. If you do the cert correctly next time, I'll definitely applaud you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 If anyone is wondering what was questionable about the certification, I have screenshots of the cert that show the problem. The only reason I have it here is because the video in question isn't available on YouTube. It's a matter of the rolling thunder being shoved between the thigh and crotch, from start to finish. No amount of "biomechanics" or other gobbledegook changes the rules, which clearly state- "Any contact between the lifter's hand and the non-revolving portion of the handle disqualifies the lift; and other than incidental contact, the hand or Rolling Thunder handle must not touch the body before the lift is completed—dragging the hand or handle up the leg is cause for an immediate 'No lift.' " 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 15 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said: "biomechanics" or other gobbledegook The fact you use these words interchangeably shows how little you know what you're talking about and exactly why I'm not going to waste my time discussing this any further with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Just now, C8Myotome said: The fact you use these words interchangeably shows how little you know what you're talking about and exactly why I'm not going to waste my time discussing this any further with you That's fine, we both know why the certification was removed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_the_hunter Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, DoctorOfCrush said: That's funny, if this thread was about anyone else it would 40 pages long 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Londonjoseph said: If anyone is wondering what was questionable about the certification, I have screenshots of the cert that show the problem. The only reason I have it here is because the video in question isn't available on YouTube. It's a matter of the rolling thunder being shoved between the thigh and crotch, from start to finish. No amount of "biomechanics" or other gobbledegook changes the rules, which clearly state- "Any contact between the lifter's hand and the non-revolving portion of the handle disqualifies the lift; and other than incidental contact, the hand or Rolling Thunder handle must not touch the body before the lift is completed—dragging the hand or handle up the leg is cause for an immediate 'No lift.' " maybe pronate the hand to lift palm facing…could you have done that Derek …I lift that way to avoid any biceps injuries. Edited April 11 by slazbob Misspelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I prefer the term “hips that grip” But @C8Myotome has put the time in and then some and is legit. Good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinchByPinch Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I had lost interest in the Crushed to Dust cert precisely because this lift was allowed, I'm glad they've fixed this and that I can once again sleep sound in the knowledge that I understand the rules of the event and the simplest of biomechanics. Stackable deadlift blocks or plyoboxes will help you do a deficit lift. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, glenn_the_hunter said: That's funny, if this thread was about anyone else it would 40 pages long I agree. Apparently it's ok to make nonstop memes about tiziano. And one thread here gets a select few people butthurt because the guy is "proved" "works hard" and "he really tries" lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 25 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said: I agree. Apparently it's ok to make nonstop memes about tiziano. And one thread here gets a select few people butthurt because the guy is "proved" "works hard" and "he really tries" lol. While I agree in holding people and certifications to high standards and that this should not have passed in the first place, making an apples to apples comparison between this and Tiziano knowingly cheating by tampering with equipment and faking feats is at least a bit disingenuous. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 8 minutes ago, DoctorOfCrush said: While I agree in holding people and certifications to high standards and that this should not have passed in the first place, making an apples to apples comparison between this and Tiziano knowingly cheating by tampering with equipment and faking feats is at least a bit disingenuous. That's quite fair, I'll agree to that. However, no more thigh boosting. And no more more biomechanics boasting ;). I've said my piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I know @C8Myotome worked his butt off, and he can lift this weight. He just needs to figure out the technical piece to keep it completely off his leg. Perhaps he brought the dunking and drama on himself, but this thread reeks of pettiness. That said, I'm glad both he and @Londonjoseph are here in the community. I wouldn't want to be in Ironmind's position. It seems certs are riding on the wind, whichever way it blows. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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