Racing Towards The Red Nail, Who Will Be First?

[Jared Goguen]

After a fair amount of correspondence with JaredWith1R. We are going to have a little race to see who can bend the Red Nail first in IMP's since we are both relatively new to bending it should be fun.

[Mike Sharkey]

Haha there's actually an epic thread already as Chez, John Manna and others were working for it.

Good luck and stay healthy

[Jared Goguen]

Haha there's actually an epic thread already as Chez, John Manna and others were working for it.

Good luck and stay healthy

Thanks man!

[JaredWith1R]

Can't wait to work out my training regimen for this, and get my new 7" practice stock. I have a feeling there will be some sore hands in my future.

[Jared Goguen]

Can't wait to work out my training regimen for this, and get my new 7" practice stock. I have a feeling there will be some sore hands in my future.

Hell yeah its on!

[Jose Cabrera]

I will enjoy watching this, good luck fellas!

[Jared Goguen]

I will enjoy watching this, good luck fellas!

Thank ill be giving it my all.

[Ivan Beritashvili]

Hell yeah!! something I will certainly follow

[Alawadhi]

Love this thread it brought me memories. Chez started it few years back and I was the first to cert But it isn't fair since long time back I was bending heavy and stopped due to my accident and laziness then muscle memory hit back fast and got certed soon.

[Jared Goguen]

Today's session started with some O1-Drillrod letter size "'H', tried the 'I' and couldn't get past the kink again so I hit another 'H' 'G' and 'F' rods and called it a day.

It was cold as shit in my shop for this session and I can't help but think that the cold isn't helping me any which shouldn't be a problem soon when my basement gym is done.

[EJ Livesey]

I will be following this as well. I'm interested to see how it turns out.

[Tim71]

Stay healthy and have at it.

[JaredWith1R]

I know this is a contest, but I'm looking for a little advice on my training plan.

I'm ordering more stock to start on 7" bends. I wanted to get some opinions before I make this order. My current PR is a 6" G, which is rated around 340#. This is what I'm looking to get, all for 7" stock.

1. 3ft I, 335#
2. 3ft J, 340# (current PR weight)
3. 6ft L, 370#
4. 6ft N, 405# (this rating is a little suspect, since its so close to M. It is only 7mill difference, but I'm still suspicious)
5. 3ft 5/16" DR, 440#

I've already got a fair amount of A and D in 6" for warmups. Would it be better to warmup on 7" for the 7" challenge bends? I don't have as much money as I would like to throw at equipment, so I am trying to save wherever I can.

And once I get close, I'll order some actual red nails. Does this look like a good set of nails to train with? I tried to get extra of the nails between my current PR and my goal. Pretty big jumps between letters, though. 30-35# each.

Thanks to everyone for the help and support.

[Jose Cabrera]

Those ratings are a general guide brother, test em out as you go along, a general warmup is best, then one easy bend to get the juices flowin, thats what ive always done. Hope it helps

[JoshW]

I rarely ever bend DO but just bent a 128.75kg crs 6" to about 3-3.5" after a long volume workout! Not too bad for a reverse bender

Good luck everyone hope you all reach the red soon.

[JaredWith1R]

Those ratings are a general guide brother, test em out as you go along, a general warmup is best, then one easy bend to get the juices flowin, thats what ive always done. Hope it helps

Yeah I know that the ratings aren't exactly gospel, but it's very nice for gauging where I'm at. In an ideal world, I would be able to rate everything myself beforehand.

What I'm doing right now is 3/16" and A as a warm up, then D as my working range and G is my challenge (all 6" right now). I also will only do grip training stuff after a day of climbing or hangboarding and pushups to get my whole body warm up. This seems to be a sufficient way for me to work, all my bends have felt pretty good.

Just gonna keep on chugging along in this manner, then. Thanks for the advice, as usual!

[Jared Goguen]

Let's see those bends!

[JHenze646]

3ft I, 335#

3ft J, 340# (current PR weight)

6ft L, 370#

6ft N, 405# (this rating is a little suspect, since its so close to M. It is only 7mill difference, but I'm still suspicious)

3ft 5/16" DR, 440#

I am not a good bender by any stretch, but I set out a similar way. I ordered H-N 6 ft of most & 9 ft of M & N. Progress however doesn't work that way and I would have been better with lots of H & J. I should have bought the rest later. And for me, length of the bar makes a difference.

All the best to you both.

[EJ Livesey]

I know this is a contest, but I'm looking for a little advice on my training plan.

I'm ordering more stock to start on 7" bends. I wanted to get some opinions before I make this order. My current PR is a 6" G, which is rated around 340#. This is what I'm looking to get, all for 7" stock.

• 3ft I, 335#
• 3ft J, 340# (current PR weight)
• 6ft L, 370#
• 6ft N, 405# (this rating is a little suspect, since its so close to M. It is only 7mill difference, but I'm still suspicious)
• 3ft 5/16" DR, 440#

I've already got a fair amount of A and D in 6" for warmups. Would it be better to warmup on 7" for the 7" challenge bends? I don't have as much money as I would like to throw at equipment, so I am trying to save wherever I can.

And once I get close, I'll order some actual red nails. Does this look like a good set of nails to train with? I tried to get extra of the nails between my current PR and my goal. Pretty big jumps between letters, though. 30-35# each.

Thanks to everyone for the help and support.

Don't order any of that steel. You're getting a little too big for your britches bud. You have no experience lifting but you do climb. So that can help and hurt. Buy a few sticks of "H" and "I". Like I said in other threads you CANNOT compare 6" stuff to 7" stuff. Here is a good example, I took a piece of 6" Q bar rated at 765 to 2.25 inches and couldn't finish. Q at 7" is 590 and I plow through that with no issues. Plus you need to build up a good base. Toughen the skin and tendons. There were a few climbers that thought the way you do and failed the red cert first time around. Save your money and do volume work with H and I. If you choose to listen you will be successful. If not your wasting money and you'll find out the hard way. Edited December 6, 2014 by EJ Livesey

[Mike Sharkey]

Trust me this is a tortoise race. You absolutely can't push it. Train and stay healthy. Your body will need more recovery than you can imagine. I got sick every time I bent for the first few months. If ya'll are ready to cert this time in 2015 I would consider that pretty quick.

There were a few climbers that thought the way you do and failed the red cert first time around

Specifically, he's talking about Daniel Reinard. Top notch climber and grip phenom. Failed the cert his first time. Spent a year doing strongman and PL, put on 20+ pounds of muscle and did a double cert with the #3. His Red took like 8 seconds.

[JaredWith1R]

I know this is a contest, but I'm looking for a little advice on my training plan.

I'm ordering more stock to start on 7" bends. I wanted to get some opinions before I make this order. My current PR is a 6" G, which is rated around 340#. This is what I'm looking to get, all for 7" stock.

• 3ft I, 335#
• 3ft J, 340# (current PR weight)
• 6ft L, 370#
• 6ft N, 405# (this rating is a little suspect, since its so close to M. It is only 7mill difference, but I'm still suspicious)
• 3ft 5/16" DR, 440#

I've already got a fair amount of A and D in 6" for warmups. Would it be better to warmup on 7" for the 7" challenge bends? I don't have as much money as I would like to throw at equipment, so I am trying to save wherever I can.

And once I get close, I'll order some actual red nails. Does this look like a good set of nails to train with? I tried to get extra of the nails between my current PR and my goal. Pretty big jumps between letters, though. 30-35# each.

Thanks to everyone for the help and support.

Don't order any of that steel. You're getting a little too big for your britches bud. You have no experience lifting but you do climb. So that can help and hurt. Buy a few sticks of "H" and "I". Like I said in other threads you CANNOT compare 6" stuff to 7" stuff. Here is a good example, I took a piece of 6" Q bar rated at 765 to 2.25 inches and couldn't finish. Q at 7" is 590 and I plow through that with no issues. Plus you need to build up a good base. Toughen the skin and tendons. There were a few climbers that thought the way you do and failed the red cert first time around. Save your money and do volume work with H and I. If you choose to listen you will be successful. If not your wasting money and you'll find out the hard way.

All very good advice, thanks very much. I changed my order over to lots of G, H and I, all for 7" training. I certainly intend to listen, the last thing I need is an injury.

I did some more 6" work today (videos to be posted soon), and the G took a bit of effort and a few set adjustments. I gave an 'I' a good solid try, but it didn't workout this time. Gonna take a bit of work.

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm sure it will get me where I'm trying to go.

[king crusher]

Some ppl can push it. Depends on your background before bending.

If you believe you can achieve. Sounds cliche but there is truth to it.

[Mike Sharkey]

Some ppl can push it. Depends on your background before bending.

If you believe you can achieve. Sounds cliche but there is truth to it.

I gave you different advice because you already had a 500# DL and a 300# bench press. Different background preparation.

I believe any man can train and successfully cert the Red Nail. Takes some 3 months, took me 3 years. Regardless I think its a really worthy goal.

The availability of information about technique and steel progression (a really overlooked matter - when I started all that was talked about was a grade 8 bolt being a step from the Red, which it most certainly is not - imagine trying to go from a 200# bench to a 300# one and you didn't have any 10's or 5's and that was the situation before the understanding and rating of 0-1 DR) from people like EJ has cut down the time someone with a solid PL background can reach the goal. For those of us that need to develop the strength along the way, patience and careful training is key.

[king crusher]

Yes I agree. But of a guy doesn't have a super strong base he probably won't be able to apply enough force to get hurt. So it will come naturally anyway. Listening to your body is a good plan.

[EJ Livesey]

Yes I agree. But of a guy doesn't have a super strong base he probably won't be able to apply enough force to get hurt. So it will come naturally anyway. Listening to your body is a good plan.

Not true at all. Muscles will always grow stronger and faster than tendons and bones. Ask me how I know.