John McCarter Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 28 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: I just rewatched the GHP9 video. The GHP9 started off at a narrow 73 mm, had the same ultra bright chrome spring that looks like it came from a Tough Ape chinese 50 lb gripper, he measures the gripper dimensions only before the close, then after the close he uses his 2nd hand to block the view of the gripper opening up, then immediately moves it as far away from the camera as possible, followed by Tiziano then pretending to be exhausted after another fake close. It looks like it could have lost some spread just like the 3.5 video but not as much as this gripper didn't start at like 80 mm (I figure the fake 3.5 probably had the spring bent outwards to look more like a 3.5). If the GHP challenge did continue it would be cool to measure the gripper after, not just before, or maybe both before and after, to prevent tiziano's spring-swap method of cheating. This one is 1000000000% fake as well. @Wade Gillingham @John McCarter @Vinnie This is why I sent messages to grip companies who have certified Tiz. I will address this subject matter through a video, after Ironmind publishes their findings. And publicly state how certifications must move beyond the issues Tiz created for the future of grip. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 32 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: I'm questioning if even the GHP7 video was faked. He did an almost identical protocol, only measure spread before the close, doing a really exaggerated dramatic close with a pretend grunt at the end, then immediately pulling it out of frame of the camera. Is there anything that isn't fake with this guy. Probably fake. He spends more time swapping handles than training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane.warrior Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) @C8Myotome is right. It so obvious that GHP 8, GHP 9 have silver springs, not the regular grey one. GHP7 seems to be the only unmodified gripper closed by Tiziano Becchio. Edited February 11 by insane.warrior 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadgrip Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 can we meme here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, deadgrip said: can we meme here? Please take the memes to a different place. I don't want Wade's thread to close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadgrip Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 This all just so crazy. Tiz may go down as the biggest fraud in grip community history. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Chez said: This all just so crazy. Tiz may go down as the biggest fraud in grip community history. I hope ends up on Italian news stations. He deserves all the shame 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, C8Myotome said: I'm questioning if even the GHP7 video was faked. He did an almost identical protocol, only measure spread before the close, doing a really exaggerated dramatic close with a pretend grunt at the end, then immediately pulling it out of frame of the camera. Is there anything that isn't fake with this guy. At this point, I believe all of his certs needs to be erased. Based on evidence, this guy is a pathological liar and we can’t trust anything he has done 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 19 minutes ago, Chez said: Based on evidence, this guy is a pathological liar and we can’t trust anything he has done Noticed that he said he was single in the grip athlete profile but now he has a longtime girlfriend.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 22 minutes ago, Chez said: At this point, I believe all of his certs needs to be erased. Based on evidence, this guy is a pathological liar and we can’t trust anything he has done I will talk about his certifications in the video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Only spring I can match his is an RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane.warrior Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 28 minutes ago, slazbob said: Only spring I can match his is an RB Search for the Tough Ape grippers or similar. Most likely those chinese ones were used. They are easy accessible and narrow by nature. The yellowness in the middle of the coil on photos comes from poor chrome plating on those cheap springs. Edited February 11 by insane.warrior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I have evidence confirming how many of us know he used tough ape springs but it is not ready to be publicly posted yet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane.warrior Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) Since other related threads are closed as of now, let's sum up this whole nonsence. It's obvious now that Tiziano Becchio never modified the grippers by heating the spring, he was just replacing the springs here and there by heating handles (you're actually on the wrong way @dubyagrip ). GHP8, GHP 9, CoC 3.5, GMC grippers - are visually proved to have swiped springs, either chrome plated or black ones. Most likely @Carl Myerscough's grippers sent to Italy were modified by Becchio too. And modified back before returning them. @Carl Myerscough it would be helpful to all of us if you could investigate your grippers for spring replacement with the attention to every possible detail, thanks. Edited February 11 by insane.warrior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Guys, if there is going to be a discussion about this, please move all post to here: This is the exact reason I created the thread. We don't need to water down Wade's certification thread anymore. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 28 minutes ago, insane.warrior said: Search for the Tough Ape grippers or similar. Most likely those chinese ones were used. They are easy accessible and narrow by nature. The yellowness in the middle of the coil on photos comes from poor chrome plating on those cheap springs. Yeah, my RB doesn’t have that yellowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, insane.warrior said: Since other related threads are closed as of now, let's sum up this whole nonsence. It's obvious now that Tiziano Becchio never modified the grippers by heating the spring, he was just replacing the springs here and there by heating handles (you're actually on the wrong way @dubyagrip ). GHP8, GHP 9, CoC 3.5, GMC grippers - are visually proved to have swiped springs, either chrome plated or black ones. Most likely @Carl Myerscough's grippers were modified too. And modified back before returning them. @Carl Myerscough it would be helpful to all of us if you could investigate your grippers for spring replacement with the attention to every possible detail, thanks. I don't care about Tiz anymore. My work is to see for myself how this is done and develop ways to account for it. It has nothing to do with helping get his certs erased. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 hours ago, C8Myotome said: I'm questioning if even the GHP7 video was faked. He did an almost identical protocol, only measure spread before the close, doing a really exaggerated dramatic close with a pretend grunt at the end, then immediately pulling it out of frame of the camera. Is there anything that isn't fake with this guy. Oh I doubt he can close a GHP 7 or COC 3. If he can, then just barely deep set, but I doubt it. That's why I was so suspicious of the 3.5 and 4. He just isn't built to be able to do that, or to bench 500 or deadlift 1000. It's physics and biology, folks. Nothing special. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matek Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 hours ago, slazbob said: Only spring I can match his is an RB 5 hours ago, insane.warrior said: Search for the Tough Ape grippers or similar. Most likely those chinese ones were used. They are easy accessible and narrow by nature. The yellowness in the middle of the coil on photos comes from poor chrome plating on those cheap springs. It's a variation of the Chinese springs. 50lb increment grippers just as the black ones, but these start 25 heavier; 125, 175, 225, 275, 325. Here is a "brand" selling these grippers: click Check the 3rd and 4th photos when the gripper is actually in someone's hand. The golden tint is obvious: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, matek said: It's a variation of the Chinese springs. 50lb increment grippers just as the black ones, but these start 25 heavier; 125, 175, 225, 275, 325. Here is a "brand" selling these grippers: click Check the 3rd and 4th photos when the gripper is actually in someone's hand. The golden tint is obvious: Yes, for sure. I rewatched the 3.5 cert video and had to turn it off! It irritated me so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared P Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Anyone know if the GHP cert is going to continue in the future, or is it done for? @Cannon @Wade Gillingham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, Jared P said: Anyone know if the GHP cert is going to continue in the future, or is it done for? @Cannon @Wade Gillingham Wade would have to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I don't see why it would continue if people can't buy grippers for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Curious to see what happens here. There is no stock of anything still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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