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I didn't particularly feel the above was perfect either, i just want to get things simplified and condensed so i thought about it and going to try just sodding off deadlifts completely (for now), ive been wanting to do this for a while myself as they just always injure me, but have kept them in for becca's sake. Now i'm thinking they may not actually be needed for general training if your doing olympic lifting. Essentially your pulling weight off the floor every workout many times over but of course it's still different. With that in mind ive looked at it in terms of how others have done in strongman / deadlifts coming from an olympic lifting background, and they have no question done well, raimonds bergmanis was right up there with the best in the world on deadlifts, sometimes even beating everyone including big z and he didn't even wear a belt, an never had anything but perfect form. Mikhail koklyaev obviously the most well known and the same result, perfect form flat back deadlifts and he was one of the best in the world sometimes beating everyone. Both of these guys were also able to use ther olympic lifting technique to split jerk big log lifts overhead, bergmanis at one time taking the world record off big z, and koklyaev famously pushing him on it at worlds strongest man. So the two area's becca needs to improve on the most was there top events. I also looked at the womans side, there's not so much at heavyweight but in the lower weight classes the podiums are full of good weightlifters, they are simple better athletes. I have pondered doing this for a while in terms of weightlifting but it's always been difficult to essentially fit them in when you are still doing the powerlifts plus accesories etc Now im thinking thats just not needed other than pre contest training events but we'll see how it goes.

What im thinking of is again twice a week just doing..

Olympic lifting (will include variations as all olympic lifters do)

Zercher squat (instead of front or back squat a typical weightlifter would do, i feel this is more specific to strongman with good carry over to many events and keeps the hips good and strong)

Push ups on football bar (simple rest pause set dog crap style to build muscle in triceps and chest for log)

Thumbless pull up hold with fat gripz (again rest pause set but for time holdinging at top, will help with gripping stones and sandbags and to build up the lats / forearms)

ssb strap yoke (keeps some movement in and is a very good core blaster)

Will be trying this today. Also have started back doing arm only daily sessions in prep for arm wrestling just just working pronation and rising, using heavier bands now and loading pin and weight but still not doing anything too heavy. Will also start back on grippers in coming days as long as the arms hold out. 

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Warm ups, stretching etc

Muscle snacth

- to 70kg x 2

Power snatch 

- to 85kg x 2

power clean & jerk

- x no somehow hurt arms 

strict press

- to 70kg x 8

- 52.5kg x 20

ssb squat (since arms were hurting too much to do zerchers)

- to 115kg x 3 (knee pain so stopped, need to find big enough knee sleeves, cant get any on)

ssb strap yoke

- 125kg, 185kg 2 x 10m with two turns

Bench press against doubled black bands (push ups hurt arms)

- to 80kg x 7 

Annoying arms being an issue again, back to icing and no arm wrestling training sessions but looks like 100kg power snatch can happen fairly soon. Ill try 90 next time.

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Warm up, stretching etc

Muscle snatch

- to 75kg x 1

Muscle clean & strict press (cant catch the bar properly in power clean yet)

- to 80kg x 3,3,3

Strict press against green bands

- to 70kg x 3,3,3

- 55kg no bands x 20 (lockout feels like it's floating after bands haha)

Front squat against green bands 

- to 75kg x 3,3,3 (extremely light to squat but rack position very hard for me)

Push ups on football bar

- x 20 or so rest paused (arms hurting but got some in)

Lat pulldown

- 3 x 10/10ish overhand then underhand

bodyweight = 183.1kg (traps are blowing up with the oly lifting, they grow easy on me)

Definately having some flexibility / muscle bound issues but to be be expected, just need to work on it.

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Strict press aginst green bands

- to 80kg x 3,3,3

- 57.5kg x 20 no bands (getting very tough)

Spider bar squats

- to 182kg x 6 (felt rediculously hard for this weight, oly shoes were a bad choice for this bar)

Bench press against doubled black bands

- to 100kg x 5 paused (easy and happy as bands nearly lifted 40kg dumbbells each side)

Dumbbell front into side raises

- 2 x reps/reps

Behind the back pulldowns

- 3 x reps

Seated row

- stretched monster band x 20

V-bar pushdowns superset dumbbell curls

- 5 x reps/reps

Bodyweight = 184.1kg

Becca having some kind of shoulder issue so had to change things up today

 

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Yesterdays

Warm up, stretching etc

Axle power snatch off pads so raised up maybe 6 inch

- to 80kg x 2 but pressed lockout (very hard to get as much of a powerful pull from this high)

Muscle clean & press

- 80kg x 5 thumbless (very easy, felt good thumbless)

Press only

- 80kg x 13?

Deadlifts (olympic style full squat down)

Sntach grip

- 140kg 3 x 3 (tougher than excepted)

Regular grip

- 140kg x 5 (felt great)

Front squat 

- to 90kg 3 x 3 (very easy just getting knee pain at the moment)

Palms facing push ups

- with greeen band added x 15?

Dumbbell leg curls superset v-grip pulldowns

- 3 x reps

Having to adjust the routine with what my arms can handle. They are feeling slightly better but it's a SLOW process. Mixed it up to the axle, going to flip with bar each session because im not able to do more technical lifts now so it makes more sense, especially since it's a solid axle i have in contest so it's awkward (im using bumper plates and tight collors to make it solid).

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Axle power snatch (again off pads so 6" high)

- to 70kg x 3

Axle muscle clean & strict press

- to 70,80,90kg x 5 (clean each rep)

Axle strict press

- 60kg x 20

(50kg snatch grip and regular rows for upper back activation)

Snatch grip deadlift D0 (deads are off 1" mats on stiff bar)

- to 150kg 3 x 3

Regular DO

- 150kg x 5

Front squat

- 100kg 3 x 3

Bench press against doubled black bands

- to 120kg x 3

- 100kg x 8 paused 

Lying dumbbell leg curl

- 25kg x ?? rest paused

Bodyweight = 184.8kg

Everything felt pretty comfortable, just 90kg muscle clean and strict felt a bit off as kinda pinged my left wrist on one of the cleans so felt a bit uneasy about putting much power into. Don't think thumbless is a good idea, well go back to regular grip.

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Starting to rev things up for a bit of a mini peak

Warm ups, stretching etc

Axle muscle clean & strict press off the pads

- to 72.5, 82.5, 92.5kg x 5 clean each rep

Axle strict press against green bands

- to 85kg x 3 (easy)

- 65kg x 8 (easy)

- 65kg x 15 no bands (suddenly burnt out)

Snatch grip deadlifts DO

Warm up / activation - 60kg x 8 snatch rows, 8 regular, 8 snatch shrugs, 8 regular

- to 162.5kg x 3,3,3

- regular DO x 5

Close grip bench press against doubled black bands

- to 130kg x 3 (heavy as hell)

- 110kg x 7 paused

Leg press superset calf raises

- to 200kg x 25/25

Pull up negatives

- x 5 then grip hold getting a stretch for 30 secs or so

This has completely wiped me out today

 

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warm up, stretching etc

2.5" axle muscle clean & strict press

- to 92kg x 6 clean each rep (felt good, proabably could have done 10)

Strict press only

- 72kg x 14

Snatch grip deadlift DO

- to 177.5kg 3x3 (tough, got an issue with left pinky pain)

Regular DO

- x 5 

Paused leg press superset calf raises

- 150kg 2 x reps (just had no energy at this point and knee pain so didnt go heavy)

Jumping pull ups 

- x 10

Thumbless hold

- x 45 seconds (tough, should probably have chalked up and just dragging)

Dumbbell laterals

- 6kg x lots

Dumbbell curls

- to 15kg x reps regular then hammer

Extensors

- 3 x reps each hand

Had nothing to give for most of this, really looking forward to deload in couple weeks.

 

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So little update, my arms / tendons are doing a good bet better, still not 100% but significantly better. Thinking it may be a while before they are 100%. Also but this left pinky issue, i did it doing #1 pinky and ring training and it just hasnt really got much better. This these things being the case i can't train grippers right now so i think the best thing is just to keep training my grip in general then after my comp get back to them with bigger base strength. Ive got axle, farmers and car deadlift hold so need to be doing plenty of grip training anyway. Im thinking for this mini peak ill just work up to 200kg DO snatch / regular grips. That should be struggle enough and deadlift in comp is 18" anyway. Going to keep in the 2.5" axle now for clean & press / snatches as why not make it as hard as possible while im using lighter weights. Will build up to a minute 30 or so on the thumbless hangs and will throw some pinch in too. Most likely going for a big close grip bench in this mini peak too, next time is 3 plates + doubled black bands then ill switch to straight weight.

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Warm up, stretching etc

2.5 axle muscle clean & strict press

- to 95kg x 8 beltless (tough, strugglng)

Snatch pulls

- to 160kg (grip wasnt up to more, right forearm sore from hold)

Bench press against doubled black bands

- to 140kg (so 210kg at the top) x 2 (felt surprisingly light just a little off balance)

- 100kg x 8 paused

Leg press superset calf raises

- to 250kg x 25/25

Dumbbell hammer curls

- 20kg's 3 x reps

Tricep pushdown

- stack 3 x reps

Dumbbell front raises superset cable concentration curls

- 3 x reps / reps

Again just feeling wrecked but all part of the process

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2.5" axle power snatch

- to 72.5kg x 2 (felt terrible)

2.5" axle muscle clean & strict press

- to 97.5kg x 4 (just awful, no power at all)

pulldowns

- 3 sets close, 3 sets wide

Dumbbell shoulder raises

- 3 x reps all directions

Dumbbell hammer curls

- 2 x reps

cable concentration curls

- x reps

One arm hang

- bodyweight (185kg) x 10 seconds

Two arm thumbless hang

- bodyweight x 47 seconds (easier than last time, had more)

Leg press

200kg? x reps then calf raises

reverse wrist curls

- 3kg dumbbells x many reps

Just completely burnt out, no explosiveness, no energy etc so called it after the axle fail and just did some fluff for the most part. Will have a week off now, no other way. Hopefully 100kg x 10 muscle clean & strict axle press next Saturday.

 

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Okay so final day of this training cycle after a week off. Felt strong so ended up going heavier on the muscle cleans and wanted to test where i was at with my pressing. Back/left hip is still not feeling good but getting treatment next Thursday.

Warm ups, stretching etc

Axle muscle cleans

- to 120kg x 1 (wanted 3 but didn't quite have it to get the other reps high enough, was landing on chest) 

Axle strict press against green bands out

- to 100kg x 3 (this is a pb with this setup)

Axle incline press paused

- to 130kg x 5

close grip bench press

- to 200kg x 1 (pb an can do more just off balance)

leg press / calf raise

- to 300kg x 20/20

Standing abs superset side laterals

- monster band 3 x reps / 10,15,20kg's x reps

lat pulldown

- 3 x reps

Thumbless grip hang

- x 35 seconds (stopped as just didnt feel good, talky slippy chalk on smooth bar not the best, waiting on better chalk to arrive)

Dumbbell curls superset pushdowns

- 3 x reps / reps

Happy enough. Definitely feel like its a good idea to build up the incline, when i missed and the axle landed on my chest in the clean it feels 100% like an incline press to get it off the chest as thats essentially what it is so even if its just to press it up to the shoulders from there i feel like for sure should focus on doing a lot of incline now. The close grip bench was just a last minute idea to do 200kg because 170kg moved super easy. I royally messed it up though as did a 1,2,3 myself then spotter instantly lifted it off so i didnt have time to get any air in and get tight. Nearly lost it a couple times and ended up with left leg in the air but went up so whatever. Strained my left pinky again big time squeezing the bar though.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

After getting sports massage on my hip for whatever reason it made things 10 times worse, back just kept spasming, extreme pain, constant jarring, could barely stand after lying down etc Still painful, still hard to stand straight in the morning etc but getting better. I think it's to do with my ql, am trying a bunch of stuff to sort it now, managed to get a half decent session in on wednesday but basically haven't hardly been able to train in weeks so lost size and strength. Obviously back will now be treated in rehab manner so anything lower back related will be light and watching what else i do too. Got more of a bodybuilding / conditioning phase coming up next week so be easier to manage then.

Wednesdays..

Warm ups, stretching etc

Axle power snatch

- to 40kg x 3,3,3,3,3

Axle row

- 50kg 3 x 20, 10 snatch, 10 regular

Axle shrugs

- 50kg 3 x 20, 10 sntach, 10 regular

Axle romanian deadlift

- 50kg 3 x 15-20

Incline axle press

- to 130kg x 6 paused

Axle close grip bench press

- to 140kg x 8 half paused

Walking lunges

- 3 x 20m

Shoulder raises

- 3 x reps palms facing / reps palms down

Tricep pushdowns

stack x loads

cable flys

- x 20 or so

Standing abs

- monster band x rest paused reps

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Plate loaded pulldown

- 80kg x loads

- 120kg x a lot

- 170kg 2 x 10-12

V-grip seated row

- 4 x 10-15

Smith machine shrugs

- 3 x 20-25

45 degree back extension

- x 12

Below knee rack pulls

- 70, 100, 130kg x 6 (felt ok but not going to push my back)

RDL pausing below knee

- 60kg x reps

Machine preacher curl

- single arm 3 x reps

- hammer grip two arms 3 x reps

Reverse curl

- 10kg 3 x reps

Ab machine

- 100lb x loads

- 150lb x 10-15

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Yesterdays (sore as hell from it)

Incline smith thickbar

- 60kg, 80kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg x 6

Smith lockouts from forehead(ish)

- 60kg, 70kg, 80kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg x 6

Seated dumbbell press paused

- 20kg's, 30kg's, 40kg's x 8

Seated dumbbell laterals very strict

- 6kg's 3 x reps

Tricep pushdowns

- 3 x reps

Cable flys

- 3 x reps

Not much rest between sets so things are harder than they might seem

 

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Yesterdays

Seated leg curl

- 3 x reps pausing at bottom

Leg extensions

- 3 x reps

Single leg press

- 3 x reps/reps

Walking lunges

- 3 x 20m?

Seated calf raise superset standing

- 3 x reps/reps

Sled push sprints there and back

- 3 runs (only 75kg)

Not listed weights as honestly wasnt even looking at them, just focusing on burning the muscles up and dont want to go too heavy with my back/side. Productive session.

I THINK i've finally realised what's wrong with my back / side / sides as it goes from one to the other sometimes though vastly left side. It being vastly left side i get the pain is what i feel has through me off but what i think the issue is, is that my right QL is really tight, and my left QL is essentially the opposite, so it's basically twisting my whole pelvis etc Stupidly, what ive been doing is when it's tight and im feeling tightness in my left side, ill stretch or massage it out, an then it will often get worse, an im left feeling like what the hecks going on. If im right in thinking it's actually my right thats tight and essentially pulling the left side causing pain there, then that makes a lot of sense that it would make it worse, since im essentially throwing myself off in the wrong direction even further. Looking to see another physio about it but im hoping im right an know what the issue is now.

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Keep being slow to update this as just plain f'kd after training but Fridays..

Axle snatch

- to 60kg x 3,3,3

Axle muscle / power cleans

- to 90kg x 3,3,3

Axle high pull to continental position

- to 115kg x 5 (easy but slight pain in glute so called it)

Axle strict press against green bands

- to 80kg x 3 (felt super heavy)

Axle incline press

- to 110kg x 3 (same)

Stopped there as clearly pressing muscles not at all recovered from last session

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Not been feeling well and back has not been great, went gym an tried

powercleans

- x no hurting back

trapbar deadlift

- no trapbar too narrow

below knee rack pulls

- to 180kg x 10

Called it there as back not being good and felt like death, came back next day..

two hands plate loaded row

- 4 x reps

upright row

- 3 x reps

frame shrugs

- 3 x reps

Assisted pull ups

- 4 x reps

Assisted pull up hang

- 57 seconds (no chalk made this very slippy and much harder than you would think)

Plate pinch hold

- 20kg bumpers x 24 seconds (again very slippy with no chalk in hot as hell gym)

Alternating dumbbell curls

- 14kg's 3 x reps

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Incline smith against green bands

- to 120kg x 4

Smith shoulder press against green bands

- 40kg x reps very slow (ouch)

Seated dumbbell laterals

- 5 x reps

Tricep pushdowns

- x a lot (straight and v handle)

Fly machine

- 3 x reps

Rear delt machine

- 3 x reps

Possibly starting to feel slightly better

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Okay so seen someone else about my back an yes i am correct in my thinking in that its a right ql tightness issue so yes ive been making it worse stretching / massaging the left but he also said one of my facet joints is closed off and another partially. He helped, seeing him again soon an also know a stretch now that really helps.

Axle power snatch

- to 70kg x 3

Axle power clean 

- to 100kg x 3

18" deadlift

- to 240kg x 3 (very easy)

Farmers walk

- 45,65,85kg a hand x 20m

Car deadlift hold

- 260kg in hands x 30 seconds

Bar hang

- bodyweight (183kg) x 45 seconds

Bumper pinch hold

- 20kg a hand x 45 seconds

Best backs felt but didnt want to push anything

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Smith shoulder press each set superset dumbbell laterals

- to 120kg x 7 

Dips

- bodyweight (183kg) x 20 but shallow ones as my 'sleek' hips were hitting the bars haha

Cable flys

- heavy x reps

Tricep pushdowns

- heavy x reps

Starting to get rolling now, back at it tomorrow

 

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Long bar seated row

- several sets to stack (158kg) x reps

Diverging seated row

- several sets to stack (very heavy) x reps

Assisted pull ups

- 3 x reps

Frame power shrugs

- to +280kg x 15 plus hold

GHR back extension

- x 10,10,15

Single arm cable rope curls

- 3 x reps/reps

Single arm cable curls

- 3 x reps/reps

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Warm up, stretching etc

Axle power snatch

- to 70kg x 2

Axle belly clean & push press

- to 110kg x 2 (felt like nothing)

18" deadlift

- to 260kg x 5 (still easy)

Axle high incline press

- to 120kg x 4 (heavy)

Farmers walk

- to 90kg x 20m 10 secs (easy just going through the motions)

Thumbless hang

- Bodyweight x 50 seconds

Everything felt great and no pain in back. Annoying me that i keep not breaking a minute on the hangs though, my left hand holds rock steady but for some reason my usually stronger right hand just keeps opening up.

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Got yet more work on my back and finally actually got adjusted in a number of different spots and both sides of lower back / hips. Hopefully it's all good from here with continued work.

High incline smith shoulder press

- to 140kg x 5 paused (pretty comfortable)

Close grip smith bench

- to 180kg x 4 (not at all comfortable, out of position)

Dumbbell shoulder press

- to 30kg x 30ish? (just for pump)

Cable flys superset overhead tricep extensions to finish

 

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Frame shrugs

- to 270kg x 15

Plate loaded pulldown

- to 150kg x 10 squeezing at the bottom

- 200kg x 1 minute hold

fat gripz seated row hold (spinning handle with fat gripz added)

- 59kg x 45 seconds each hand

Concept 2 rower towel grip

- 1 minute for distance 271m (took it fairly easy)

Prowler push

- to 125kg x 1 length

Next comp after liverpools is going to be uk truck pulling championships not long after so working in some training for too which should do me good as because liverpools strongest is a pretty static comp an how the events are it suits being heavy but easy to overlook conditioning but truck pulls obviously you need the big bodyweight but need the fitness too so now i cant overlook or skip conditioning work.

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