daniel reinard Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I've been thinking about buying one. I have no weights though. I'm thinking I could take it to the gym and clip it to one of the weight machines. I want to work the pinch grip but I'm not ready to buy all the equipment that comes with it. I found a 2x4 with a bolt and clip on it at the gym. I clipped it in and pinched 100lbs each hand (wood probably more friction than steel). But the 2" seemed narrow and it hurt to pinch. At $25, and if I could find a way to clip it to a weight machine, it sounds like I can pull it off. Is the Hub comparable to a york hub, size and ability to lift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubgeezer Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Is the Hub comparable to a york hub, size and ability to lift? I don't think the IM Hub is really comparable to anything. I don't do real well on "real" hubs, but do fine on the IM one. And, with York, there are so many different versions floating around over the years, that you can't really say what a "York" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malice Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 The slick surface on the IM hub makes it much tougher than lifting a #45 plate. Before I sanded my IM hub I was pulling 33 lbs. on it and easily lifted the #45 plate. I don't know how close it would be to various plates hubs measurement wise but the design is similar enough that it will allow you to get stronger in a manner necessary to lift a plate by the hub. If nothing else it gives you another way to work the thumbs which is important if you have girlie strength thumbs like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) It's been my experience that the slick service makes no difference in progressing. What made a huge difference is actually making the surface course (with sandpaper) and using as much weight as possible OVER 45 lbs. Most individuals can lift 45 lbs. relatively easy with a proper gripping surface (non-slick) thats larger than the actual size of the center hub on a #45 plate. The brain is not responding to surface feel when it comes to gaining strength at this lift. It responds to weight lifted (force applied) and makes favorable adaptations from that point, assuming your not lifting in pain ( when pain is detected the CNS will decrease contractile force). Bottom line, use surface area with good texture for lifting more than 45 lbs. Important point: It's easy to strain the thumbs. High volume training for this lift is asking for injury. High intensity/low volume is key here (singles with max or near max effort). When you've reached a decent level of strength at this lift and progress slows or stops, try some negative training at this point but not before. Don't have time to explain why, but this is important. Keep a training journal (everyone should) to determine proper rest/recovery rates. When progress stops or progress starts to go backwards, increase rest time for recovery. In my case, my body resonds well to 4-5 dyas rest between hub training sessions. Each individual is different and will require different amounts of rest for recovery. One more thing, NEVER train sore thumbs! Hope this helps! Edited October 20, 2010 by Mighty Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel reinard Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Awesome responses! Thanks all. You even nailed some questions I was going to ask, like sanding or how to train with it. Mighty Joe, I do keep a journal. And so glad I do. Helps a ton. Malice, I feel you on the weak thumbs. I've been strong with grip because of climbing, but we don't use thumbs for climbing. Fact is the pinch grip just isn't that common of a grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handgripperman Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think for the most part you can do way more weight on the IM hub rather then on a 45lb plate. especially if you sand it down. I like to keep the paint on my IM hub. We happen to like them slippery in our So. Cal. contest. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN PRAYDIS Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think for the most part you can do way more weight on the IM hub rather then on a 45lb plate. especially if you sand it down. I like to keep the paint on my IM hub. We happen to like them slippery in our So. Cal. contest. . i second what you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankD Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Thanks guys. This is a great tread. I ordered an IM Hub Trainer that arrived today. I had a lot of these same questions as well. I also made a couple of hub devices to see how they compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel reinard Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 IM hub trainer on the way! Along with a rolling thunder. Can't wait to receive them and find my baseline max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone Wolf Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I think for the most part you can do way more weight on the IM hub rather then on a 45lb plate. especially if you sand it down. I like to keep the paint on my IM hub. We happen to like them slippery in our So. Cal. contest. . I prefer to train with the raint too as for training I built my foundation with 2-finger plate pinching training them in pairs pinky-ring fingers,ring-middle fingers, middle-index fingers and it really helped me the 1st time I touched a IM hubwas in a contest I pulled 48 lbs. this last contest I did 60 lbs. and tied for 3rd place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripzilla Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I think for the most part you can do way more weight on the IM hub rather then on a 45lb plate. especially if you sand it down. I like to keep the paint on my IM hub. We happen to like them slippery in our So. Cal. contest. . I prefer to train with the raint too as for training I built my foundation with 2-finger plate pinching training them in pairs pinky-ring fingers,ring-middle fingers, middle-index fingers and it really helped me the 1st time I touched a IM hubwas in a contest I pulled 48 lbs. this last contest I did 60 lbs. and tied for 3rd place You da' man! Aaa-OOOOoh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripzilla Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Updates from the Wolf's Den: Hubbing a 45# plus weight- Robert hit a new hub PR of 62.5#. Robert spent most of his time calibrating. Thank you Robert. Kevin hit 65#. He broke the ground with 75# the last time we met. He's been doing quite a bit of gripper work so his hands weren't feeling up to par. However, he easily taught his Inch DB who was boss. He lifted it a few times; it was just too easy for him. He lifted 200# on Robert's 2 3/8" inch trainer. He's a thick bar fiend. I pulled 52.5# hub pretty high (almost armpit level). Pulled 60#, 65#, 67.5#, and 70#. I was good for more but was distracted as we started calibrating grippers. I think I'll be able to get 80# next time (at least I hope so) I also did some 2-fingered hubs. I pulled off an index/thumb, middle/thumb, and a ring/thumb combo with the 45# hub. Will add weight next time. I finished off the hubbing by snatching the 45# plate up overhead. I played with the Inch DB as well. For my third attempt ever I was happy. I put the finger tip pads of the freehand index and middle fingers lightly on the handle. I was able to pull it to full height with this little bit of assistance. Next time it'll only one finger tip, then eventually no assistance. I don't think it'll be too long. As always, everyone had a great time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripzilla Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Updates from the Wolf's Den: Hubbing a 45# plus weight- Robert hit a new hub PR of 62.5#. Robert spent most of his time calibrating. Thank you Robert. Kevin hit 65#. He broke the ground with 75# the last time we met. He's been doing quite a bit of gripper work so his hands weren't feeling up to par. However, he easily taught his Inch DB who was boss. He lifted it a few times; it was just too easy for him. He lifted 200# on Robert's 2 3/8" inch trainer. He's a thick bar fiend. I pulled 52.5# hub pretty high (almost armpit level). Pulled 60#, 65#, 67.5#, and 70#. I was good for more but was distracted as we started calibrating grippers. I think I'll be able to get 80# next time (at least I hope so) I also did some 2-fingered hubs. I pulled off an index/thumb, middle/thumb, and a ring/thumb combo with the 45# hub. Will add weight next time. I finished off the hubbing by snatching the 45# plate up overhead. I played with the Inch DB as well. For my third attempt ever I was happy. I put the finger tip pads of the freehand index and middle fingers lightly on the handle. I was able to pull it to full height with this little bit of assistance. Next time it'll be only one finger tip, then eventually no assistance. I don't think it'll be too long. As always, everyone had a great time. Sorry guys. Forgot to date this. It was this past Saturday, December 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongman2332 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I keep my eye out on craigslist, garage sales, and the second hand stores. I have a wide variety of plates for hub lifting in 25, 35, and 45lb. I have 45's with hubs 1 3/8" (smooth, AES Brand), 1 1/4" (Old Inter National made in Canada), and 1" (rough, Jack LaLane). I have gone over 55 lbs on teh 1 1/4" and can't budge my 35lb LaLane with a 1" hub. I am thinking about offering up the LaLane 45 as a challenge plate. You'll have to offer something else up as a challenge plate. We got together out here a week after the contest (California) and actually hubbed a rough Jack Lalanne 50# plate (5" diameter). Kevin Bussi (Handigripperman) got 50# and I got 60#. It was a blast. Animal! Thats crazy man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Updates from the Wolf's Den: Hubbing a 45# plus weight- Robert hit a new hub PR of 62.5#. Robert spent most of his time calibrating. Thank you Robert. Kevin hit 65#. He broke the ground with 75# the last time we met. He's been doing quite a bit of gripper work so his hands weren't feeling up to par. However, he easily taught his Inch DB who was boss. He lifted it a few times; it was just too easy for him. He lifted 200# on Robert's 2 3/8" inch trainer. He's a thick bar fiend. I pulled 52.5# hub pretty high (almost armpit level). Pulled 60#, 65#, 67.5#, and 70#. I was good for more but was distracted as we started calibrating grippers. I think I'll be able to get 80# next time (at least I hope so) I also did some 2-fingered hubs. I pulled off an index/thumb, middle/thumb, and a ring/thumb combo with the 45# hub. Will add weight next time. I finished off the hubbing by snatching the 45# plate up overhead. I played with the Inch DB as well. For my third attempt ever I was happy. I put the finger tip pads of the freehand index and middle fingers lightly on the handle. I was able to pull it to full height with this little bit of assistance. Next time it'll be only one finger tip, then eventually no assistance. I don't think it'll be too long. As always, everyone had a great time. Sorry guys. Forgot to date this. It was this past Saturday, December 12. Whew, hubbin to the sky here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripzilla Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I keep my eye out on craigslist, garage sales, and the second hand stores. I have a wide variety of plates for hub lifting in 25, 35, and 45lb. I have 45's with hubs 1 3/8" (smooth, AES Brand), 1 1/4" (Old Inter National made in Canada), and 1" (rough, Jack LaLane). I have gone over 55 lbs on teh 1 1/4" and can't budge my 35lb LaLane with a 1" hub. I am thinking about offering up the LaLane 45 as a challenge plate. You'll have to offer something else up as a challenge plate. We got together out here a week after the contest (California) and actually hubbed a rough Jack Lalanne 50# plate (5" diameter). Kevin Bussi (Handigripperman) got 50# and I got 60#. It was a blast. Animal! Thats crazy man It's definitely fun. The next time we met it occurred to me to try it with a index/middle/thumb combo. Got it while holding the video camera. Kev says "If you can do it, I can do it!". He snags it as well. I got some air with middle/thumb combo. Will get it next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone Wolf Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Had a pretty good workout this Sat. did some IM hubing and some 45 plate hubing IM Hub rihgt hand 42.5 x 1 warm-up 47.5 x 1 warm-up 52.5 x 1 56.25 x 1 58.75 x 1 59.25 x 1 60.5 got about 3" off the ground did my York deep 45 plate both right and left hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankD Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Had a pretty good workout this Sat. did some IM hubing and some 45 plate hubing IM Hub rihgt hand 42.5 x 1 warm-up 47.5 x 1 warm-up 52.5 x 1 56.25 x 1 58.75 x 1 59.25 x 1 60.5 got about 3" off the ground did my York deep 45 plate both right and left hand Nice lifts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN PRAYDIS Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 GUYS nice lifts how about throwing a bunch of them clips together add some music and post a video no one makes vids anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripzilla Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 GUYS nice lifts how about throwing a bunch of them clips together add some music and post a video no one makes vids anymore They're coming Dan. Mr. No-tech has been busy, but they're coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 GUYS nice lifts how about throwing a bunch of them clips together add some music and post a video no one makes vids anymore They're coming Dan. Mr. No-tech has been busy, but they're coming. cant wait to see vids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone Wolf Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 GUYS nice lifts how about throwing a bunch of them clips together add some music and post a video no one makes vids anymore They're coming Dan. Mr. No-tech has been busy, but they're coming. cant wait to see vids Both Gripzilla and Handgripperman have take video of some of are Hub chalanges so hopefully we can get something up soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone Wolf Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 don't have a video but I have a picture of me doing 60 lbs. today in my gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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