Sybersnott Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Can you guess what incredible feat of strength officially happened five years ago on this day... January 10, 1998? ??? People still talk about it. Some people can't believe it happened. It is without question the most discussed topic on this forum. If I gave you any clues, it might give it away. Can you guess what I'm talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 That's too easy. Joe Kinney closing the #4 (And I didn't even look up the date to check). Syber, you are like Joe Roark Jr. now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Ha ha Ha Even I knew the answer to that one. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsofStone Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 (edited) Your going to have to do better than that. Ever Since I saw Kinney's name on the #4 list, that year was engrained into my head. Edited January 10, 2003 by HandsofStone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I have only daughters! Whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersqueeze Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Five years already! In those five years the #3 has been closed by about 70 people and has become almost common place on this forum. The #4 remains as mysterious a challenge as ever. I hope this is the year for many of you out there seriously in the hunt. Best of luck! Mike M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Last time I checked with Randy Strossen, about 100 of the #4 grippers had been sold. There are 1,400 plus members here, and thousands of lifters not here, so a #4 remains a rare-to-encounter item, and therefore, rare to compare one 4 to another in terms of resistance. As I recall, about 100 of the Inch replicas have been sold also. Much easier to carry the #4 hither and yon than the Inch or the MB, of which only seven are scattered worldwide, with only three of those in the USA. In this regard, how many board members have ever even been in the presence of a #4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Yep. One lay there on a friend's shelf, staring daggers at me. Ignorant of what it truly was, I arrogantly stared back and challenged it to a contest. When it failed to respond, I let it be. I've seen one, but no, I've never laid my hands on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I've bought one recently. And i use it in my training. It is not as impressive as was the #3 when i first started my training (could barely close the #1 at that time) but off course i've made some progress since then. I wish i had bought it along with my #1, #2 and #3: it would have been something to lay my hand on the #4 at the very begining of my grip training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I have 3 #4's. They get increasingly harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I've had mine for over 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I own 4 of them, but I've seen 15 or better in total. I think I remember the comment was "somewhere above 100" #4's that were sold. I doubt I've seen anywhere close to 10% of the total number of #4's out there. I think there's gotta be several hundred out there at least. BTW, they're all hard so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Pat, When I ask Strossen for the number of 4's in circulation, he did say something like 'little more than a hundred' or somesuch. He declined to be specific, so I asked that if I mentioned 'about 100'- would that be in the ballpark, and he said yes. I have no way of knowing if several hundred more have been sold since then (year ago?). And frankly, I do not see the point of keeping the figure unspecified, but whatever the need for secrecy in the matter is, beats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikael Siversson Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I have two, I just got the second one and like it as it fits my hand nicely (not very wide). The first one is too wide (just under 80 mm wide) for me. There would definitely be more than a dozen in Sweden alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrik_F Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I also have two. The wider one is a little bit easier to sweep. Both are pretty narrow though, and it only is about 1-2 mm difference between them. I cant really feel much difference between them in the closed position. I guess its because they are both hard grippers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersqueeze Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 (edited) I have one. It's the only one I have felt. Mike M. p.s. - I would love to know how it compares to others and I don't use it much. I would be willing to ship it to any of the board regulars if they would do me the favor of trying it and returning it to me when done. I'll gladly pay shipping. If interested please PM. Edited January 10, 2003 by supersqueeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I purchased a 4 a while back out of curiosity, to see what it was like for myself. I started using it in my training to make the 3 easier to close. Now that I am doing the K T A program, I must just go on to try to close it. Oddy the 4 is the only gripper that I can continue to close after I have stopped during the close and thought I could go no further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted January 10, 2003 Author Share Posted January 10, 2003 I got my #4 gripper about a month before Kinney officially closed his. Mine is like a rock... it is a brick. However, I am hopeful that someday I "can" close it - it is that ultimate measuring stick of grip power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bseedot Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 I've got one #4. I purchased #1-#4 almost exactly two years ago. I can't say much about the #4 but I've never closed a harder #2 or tried to close a harder #3 than the ones I received. BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Five years ago, one man closed a #4 gripper. This year there is a good chance that 5 men will close one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 And there is a good chance that those 5 men will be required to match or to surpass the amount of proof offered in the case 5 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 A video will be required, also dna testing. Only the most credible witnesses will be accepted. Each closing will be analysed and discussed for many weeks. Grippers will have to be heavily guarded or they will get lost or stolen. It will come to light that #4 grippers vary even more than the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 So if rule 5 had been in place 5 years ago, what would we have concluded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 If What Kinney did five years ago had happened today instead, whilst many of us would have liked to believe it, we would also have demanded very convincing proof and very credible and independant witnesses. It may even be that when the #4 does get closed under irrefutable circumstances, that for many will be accepted as the first true closing of a #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 If rule #5 had been in force 5 years ago, that proof MIGHT have surfaced. Not would or wouldn't, but MIGHT. But it wasn't in force, so we will have to "believe" what we must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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