EricMilfeld Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I have only a general notion about what dusk will have in store for this training cycle. But I'm not really starting off with a conventional cycle. For now I intend to add ten pounds every 6 days to my squat and deadlift weights. I'm squatting with a belt for a set of 3 and deadlifting without for a set of 12. I kind of want to see how much I can pull with no limitations placed on my bodyweight. But along the way I would like to break one, if not all, of the following records: 220 Class WABDL Open State Record - 683 WABDL Masters State Record - 650 USAPL Masters State Record - 661 Perhaps if I continue bulking up to 230 or more I could pull 700. I'd love to be able to say I've done that, especially if I can make it a triple body weight pull. Last Workout: bodyweight: low 190s Deadlift 335 x 12 (no belt) Squat 335 x 3 Barbell Row 245 x 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusom1 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Good luck Eric! 700 would be a great accomplishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Eric you seem to have a handle (make that a gift) at manipulating your bodyweight over a pretty wide range. Would you mind sharing your approach to both gaining and dieting down - I think it would be very interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Light weight baby! -Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Light weight baby!-Rex Ain't nuffin but a peanut! Good luck Eric! Yet another deadlift log to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knyaz Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 cant wait to see how far you push yourself on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Eric you seem to have a handle (make that a gift) at manipulating your bodyweight over a pretty wide range. Would you mind sharing your approach to both gaining and dieting down - I think it would be very interesting? Thanks, guys! Chris, actually I have trouble gaining weight. The weight loss comes easily for me. I basically have to force feed myself to get much above 200 pounds. I really don't have any secrets, but I'll gladly share my rather simple methods. I prefer not to do much more than weight train to burn calories as I shed weight. So, it's all about my diet. Simply put, I keep the fat calories low and the protein high, but I don't follow a super strict diet. I do eat lot's of sardines and salmon and some soy milk. I also eat a lot of grilled chicken sandwiches, peanut butter sandwiches, and some protein bars. But I also indulge my sweet tooth with ice cream, gummy bears, and some chocolate, oh yeah... and beer. Not much of a recipe for success here for most folks. I guess what it comes down to is the fact that I lose weight with almost no effort and just eat twice what I usually do to gain it back. I'm 6' 1", and if I didn't weight train I would weigh about 150 at best. I'm small boned. I've competed in the 165, 181, 198, and 220 weight classes as an adult. As a teen I did the 123, 132, and 148 and wasn't but a few inches shorter than I am now. Sorry I couldn't be more "interesting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 11-03-2008 bodyweight: 194 Axle Deadlift 375 x 7 x 2 sets (no belt) Mixed Grip Axle Rows 235 x 10 Squat 345 x 3 Second workout and I've already changed my routine. So now I will be hitting two sets of seven on the axle without a belt rotating with a workout consisting of three sets of three on the olympic bar with a belt. I may start squatting on a different day, also. I like the axle deadlifts because the one inch olympic bar feels ridiculously springy in comparison, and as a result, the axle seems to work the initial pull off the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 11-07-200 body weight: 197 Squat 355 x 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 11-09-08 body weight: 197 Deadlift 475 x 3 x 3 Barbell Row 245 x 10 Shrugs 385 x 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 11-12-2008 body weight: 198 Squat 365 x 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 11-15 body weight: 199 4" Block Deadlift 335 x 12 (no belt) Barbell Row 255 x 9 Shrug 425 x 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Knight Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Eric you seem to have a handle (make that a gift) at manipulating your bodyweight over a pretty wide range. Would you mind sharing your approach to both gaining and dieting down - I think it would be very interesting? Thanks, guys! Chris, actually I have trouble gaining weight. The weight loss comes easily for me. I basically have to force feed myself to get much above 200 pounds. I really don't have any secrets, but I'll gladly share my rather simple methods. I prefer not to do much more than weight train to burn calories as I shed weight. So, it's all about my diet. Simply put, I keep the fat calories low and the protein high, but I don't follow a super strict diet. I do eat lot's of sardines and salmon and some soy milk. I also eat a lot of grilled chicken sandwiches, peanut butter sandwiches, and some protein bars. But I also indulge my sweet tooth with ice cream, gummy bears, and some chocolate, oh yeah... and beer. Not much of a recipe for success here for most folks. I guess what it comes down to is the fact that I lose weight with almost no effort and just eat twice what I usually do to gain it back. I'm 6' 1", and if I didn't weight train I would weigh about 150 at best. I'm small boned. I've competed in the 165, 181, 198, and 220 weight classes as an adult. As a teen I did the 123, 132, and 148 and wasn't but a few inches shorter than I am now. Sorry I couldn't be more "interesting". I was looking for the beer part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 11-18 body weight: 200 Squat 385 x 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 11-20 body weight: 200 I decided to convert to sumo deadlifting. If it goes well I will use it at least through my next meet. Sumo Deadlift 495 x 3 x 2 sets Dumbbell Row 184 x 7 x 2 sets Shrug 435 x 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 11-20body weight: 200 I decided to convert to sumo deadlifting. If it goes well I will use it at least through my next meet. Sumo Deadlift 495 x 3 x 2 sets Dumbbell Row 184 x 7 x 2 sets Shrug 435 x 12 Dude! NOOOOOOOOO!!! Sumo deadlifting is not real deadlifting! Seriously, though man. As chair of the Society for Conventional Deadlifting, I'm going to have to get you to sign some papers documenting this conversion. -Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 11-20body weight: 200 I decided to convert to sumo deadlifting. If it goes well I will use it at least through my next meet. Sumo Deadlift 495 x 3 x 2 sets Dumbbell Row 184 x 7 x 2 sets Shrug 435 x 12 Dude! NOOOOOOOOO!!! Sumo deadlifting is not real deadlifting! Seriously, though man. As chair of the Society for Conventional Deadlifting, I'm going to have to get you to sign some papers documenting this conversion. -Rex I know. The last time I competed with this fake form of deadlifting I was 15, but I've always been able to switch technique with no loss of strength. Maybe if I actually train it for a while I can get a PR, albeit a PR with an asterisk. My sumo is a severely modified variety, though - stance fairly close and upper back all hunched over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 11-24 Squat 395 x 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 11-26 Sumo Deadlift 515 x 4 Dumbbell Row 189 x 9 Axle Shrug 385 x 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 11-26Sumo Deadlift 515 x 4 Dumbbell Row 189 x 9 Axle Shrug 385 x 20 aAEric's deadlift strength will be very useful when he competes with me in the NAS Texas Strongman Classic. -Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 11-26Sumo Deadlift 515 x 4 Dumbbell Row 189 x 9 Axle Shrug 385 x 20 aAEric's deadlift strength will be very useful when he competes with me in the NAS Texas Strongman Classic. -Rex I would not say it's outside the realm of possibility, but I may not be able to get much actual event training in before the contest. 11-30 Squat 405 x 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 12-03 body weight: 200 Sumo Deadlift 535 x 3 Dumbbell Row 204 x 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hey, Rex, I got to thinking about something (scary thought) regarding the sumo style. Isn't picking up a stone performed much like a modified sumo deadlift? Maybe a modified sumo stance mimics "the real world" more than I previously thought. Alas, perhaps I'm still "keepin' it real"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hey, Rex, I got to thinking about something (scary thought) regarding the sumo style. Isn't picking up a stone performed much like a modified sumo deadlift? Maybe a modified sumo stance mimics "the real world" more than I previously thought. Alas, perhaps I'm still "keepin' it real"! Sumo style lifters are so terrified of putting strain on their precious backs, and so they choose the ugly stance. Their entire approach to the deadlift is one of evasion and distortion--evading the essence of the deadlift and attempting to change it--with horrifying results--into the squat. Stone lifters, on the other hand, lift with a rounded back throughout the entire movement. So the stress is still on the back, even if the legs are wide. From what I've seen, you basically do a stiff-legged deadlift but with your feet wide apart, and so I'd say that you're closer to the stone-lifter than the traditional sumo deadlifter. This means that the Society of Conventional Deadlifters will still send you a Christmas invite. -Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 If I may, it always seemed to me that a zercher deadlift from the floor, not the traditional deadlift-it-up-and-rest-on-your-thighs-then-switch-arm-position lift, but lifting it from the floor with the bar resting on your forearms. I can get 315 that way and can get a 230-250ish stone, both max lifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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