"time" For A New List?

[CaptainCrush]

There's no need to worry about length, stronger steel always wins, regardless of length. It's up to the individual to bend the bigger steel.

So a 7" piece of 5/16 Stainless will beat an Insane bastard?

As a bender of both of em I will gladly say that I never wanna have to bend another Insane Bastard unless I'm being held at gunpoint and forced to. I'll gladly bend shiny's every single day of my life though

I would agree with that assessment. I liken a shiny to a nice after dinner mint and the insane to full can of Bear deterrent pepper spray used for a tickle in your throat.

- Aaron

HAHAHAH....pause....HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

btw I still have a bunch of insane shiny's if anybody would like to try some out.

I'll gladly give the insane shiny a ride!!

PM me your address Fox and I'll send you some out. I was just using them for kink and sweep work on the Insane Bastard.

[John Beatty]

From my point of view, my cert lists will stay as they are for a couple of reasons:

a) I certainly don't have time to watch a 15 min vid, sometimes if I haven't watched certs for 2-3 weeks (sometimes a month) I have 30-40 certs to watch. Even if I fast forward through the wrap, once I see it's standard, I'm usually watching a 2-4 min vid on average. If you do the math, that equals a lot of time... .

b) after the one time I tried to make a small change in the rules regarding WC bends, I decided that I would not ever change them as I didn't need the headache.

c) with my wife returning to school, I've kind of become a single dad, and until next year when my son starts full day school, my time is even more limited, so I certainly can't add a whole new category with really long vids.

On the positive, it amazes me what bending has become, and what you guys are accomplishing, Stuff I never thought anyone would bend after I started & got a feel for it is now commonplace, and the high end of things (which is well above the commonly amazing level) is incredible.

I'm all for someone else running a cert list for longer bends, but I just can't do it.

[bencrush]

Right on John. Your cert lists will always be well respected. The longer time limit sure won't take it over, but it's just a little spice you might say.

[wscorpion]

From my point of view, my cert lists will stay as they are for a couple of reasons:

a) I certainly don't have time to watch a 15 min vid, sometimes if I haven't watched certs for 2-3 weeks (sometimes a month) I have 30-40 certs to watch. Even if I fast forward through the wrap, once I see it's standard, I'm usually watching a 2-4 min vid on average. If you do the math, that equals a lot of time... .

b) after the one time I tried to make a small change in the rules regarding WC bends, I decided that I would not ever change them as I didn't need the headache.

c) with my wife returning to school, I've kind of become a single dad, and until next year when my son starts full day school, my time is even more limited, so I certainly can't add a whole new category with really long vids.

On the positive, it amazes me what bending has become, and what you guys are accomplishing, Stuff I never thought anyone would bend after I started & got a feel for it is now commonplace, and the high end of things (which is well above the commonly amazing level) is incredible.

I'm all for someone else running a cert list for longer bends, but I just can't do it.

John, your lists are great as they are, no reason to change that

Like I said before, I don't mean a certification list, I mean a top 20 list.

So one can be kicked off the list by a better bend, unlike with a certification.

For a certification I fully agree, no way a 15 minute video would be interesting. Especially not with the average bends.

But for a top 20 list where only the best benders can aim for would be well worth the time to view those videos since they would be the most amazing bends!

[boland magyar]

From my point of view, my cert lists will stay as they are for a couple of reasons:

a) I certainly don't have time to watch a 15 min vid, sometimes if I haven't watched certs for 2-3 weeks (sometimes a month) I have 30-40 certs to watch. Even if I fast forward through the wrap, once I see it's standard, I'm usually watching a 2-4 min vid on average. If you do the math, that equals a lot of time... .

b) after the one time I tried to make a small change in the rules regarding WC bends, I decided that I would not ever change them as I didn't need the headache.

c) with my wife returning to school, I've kind of become a single dad, and until next year when my son starts full day school, my time is even more limited, so I certainly can't add a whole new category with really long vids.

On the positive, it amazes me what bending has become, and what you guys are accomplishing, Stuff I never thought anyone would bend after I started & got a feel for it is now commonplace, and the high end of things (which is well above the commonly amazing level) is incredible.

I'm all for someone else running a cert list for longer bends, but I just can't do it.

John, your lists are great as they are, no reason to change that

Like I said before, I don't mean a certification list, I mean a top 20 list.

So one can be kicked off the list by a better bend, unlike with a certification.

For a certification I fully agree, no way a 15 minute video would be interesting. Especially not with the average bends.

But for a top 20 list where only the best benders can aim for would be well worth the time to view those videos since they would be the most amazing bends!

well said mark......i think this is the next evolution to bending big iron