pawel r Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 (edited) Biceps Cable Concentration Curls -140 kg Wrist Cable Curls - 150 kg Side Pressure - 124 kg Back Pressure - 140 kg Dumbbell Hammer Curls- 90 kg Triceps Push Downs (2 hands) - 150kg Military Press - 200kg Bench Press - 270kg Deadlifts - 250kg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub27.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200407210423023.jpg http://youtube.com/watch?v=JT3fm7CPy_s Edited June 17, 2007 by pawel r Quote
pawel r Posted June 17, 2007 Author Posted June 17, 2007 hook: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=10 toproll: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=9 Quote
fightertrainer Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 hook: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=10toproll: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=9 I looked at every single pic there, and i kinda like A.S for his hard work ethic. I have one question: how did you know the weight of lift? I could not see it any where. Do you have inside infomation? Quote
rasturai Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Biceps Cable Concentration Curls -140 kgWrist Cable Curls - 150 kg Side Pressure - 124 kg Back Pressure - 140 kg Dumbbell Hammer Curls- 90 kg Triceps Push Downs (2 hands) - 150kg Military Press - 200kg Bench Press - 270kg Deadlifts - 250kg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub27.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200407210423023.jpg http://youtube.com/watch?v=JT3fm7CPy_s impressive lifts! Quote
rasturai Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Biceps Cable Concentration Curls -140 kgWrist Cable Curls - 150 kg Side Pressure - 124 kg Back Pressure - 140 kg Dumbbell Hammer Curls- 90 kg Triceps Push Downs (2 hands) - 150kg Military Press - 200kg Bench Press - 270kg Deadlifts - 250kg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub27.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110323Klub26.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200407210423023.jpg http://youtube.com/watch?v=JT3fm7CPy_s impressive lifts! Quote
pawel r Posted June 18, 2007 Author Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) hook: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=10toproll: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=9 I looked at every single pic there, and i kinda like A.S for his hard work ethic. I have one question: how did you know the weight of lift? I could not see it any where. Do you have inside infomation? Archiv of Chats : (chats with Alexey Semerenko in 2005) : http://armpower.net/index.php?page=czat_sem_pl http://armpower.net/index.php?page=semerenko_polish so I saw Semerenko in club Zloty Tur in Gdynia http://armpower.net/galeria_upload/200408110325Klub1.jpg Edited June 18, 2007 by pawel r Quote
lifesnotfair Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I wouldn't mind looking like that. Can one get that big without any type of supplements? Just eating right? Quote
Florian Kellersmann Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I wouldn't mind looking like that. Can one get that big without any type of supplements? Just eating right? Yes, lots of vegetables are the key Quote ARMS ARE FOR ARMWRESTLING "Always give your workouts cool names to fire you up!" - Devon Larratt
burkhardmacht Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I wouldn't mind looking like that. Can one get that big without any type of supplements? Just eating right? Yes, lots of vegetables are the key I think he looks fit and healthy! Quote "[...], this is a brutish-looking cast iron globe dumbbell with the short, fat handle that, formost people, ensures that it will never leave the ground. Grab this legend and lift it if You can. [...]" Videos: 2xBlob50: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpkgojFAilI Blob50+3x10kg plates/20kg Hub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1sOP4jf0CQ
Florian Kellersmann Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I wouldn't mind looking like that. Can one get that big without any type of supplements? Just eating right? Yes, lots of vegetables are the key I think he looks fit and healthy! Just saw in the chat protocoll, Alexey himself answered your question: eee: in 2001 you pulled 80kg,and in 2003 110kg category.fast way to gaişn weight.steroids right? Alexey Semerenko: Rather good apetite and plenty of food. Quote ARMS ARE FOR ARMWRESTLING "Always give your workouts cool names to fire you up!" - Devon Larratt
lifesnotfair Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Hrm.. too big too fast, it would seem. Oh well. Quote
jad Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Great pics Pawel! I like the one where he looks to be casually holding what is at least a 100lb db in the 90 degree hammer curl position. He sure hits fast! Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
thabull Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Biceps Cable Concentration Curls -140 kg Wrist Cable Curls - 150 kg Side Pressure - 124 kg Back Pressure - 140 kg Dumbbell Hammer Curls- 90 kg Triceps Push Downs (2 hands) - 150kg MILITARY PRESS - 200KG Bench Press - 270kg Deadlifts - 250kg i wanne see that 200kg military press.... i dont believe that i mean thats almost as much as savickas is doing and hes a damn tank at 180kg.... Quote
lifesnotfair Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 That's a huge amount of weight to be military pressing!! Quote
fightertrainer Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Biceps Cable Concentration Curls -140 kg Wrist Cable Curls - 150 kg Side Pressure - 124 kg Back Pressure - 140 kg Dumbbell Hammer Curls- 90 kg Triceps Push Downs (2 hands) - 150kg MILITARY PRESS - 200KG Bench Press - 270kg Deadlifts - 250kg Tricep press down 150kg??? doesn't that more than his body weight. Logically you can not do that w/o a counter measure to hold you down. I saw a pic where he does that but the weight was not 150kg. And there's a person behind him to hold his waist, the hold seem symbolic rather than hard spotting. YOu will need to be more than 150kg (300lbs plus) in order to control the weight stack. Rather I believe 200kg pilitary press than 150kg tricep press down. Any way, to be an athlete at world class level, you need to have exceptional gene and hard work ethtic to reach it and may be he got it. Quote
Whimp Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 140kg is 308 lbs. one handed, clean. cmon now... Quote [x]#1 [x]#2 [x]#3
jad Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I think some people are forgetting that the tricep pushdown is done on a cable so 150kg doesn't really equal 150kg. I can do the stack/200lbs for sets of 10, strictly, and I dont' even train tri's very hard anymore because most of the work bothers my rotator cuff tendonitis. Alexey is hardly doing them strictly in the pic and he's a world class athlete; personally I think 150kg is kind of low, considering his military and bench press numbers. As for the backpressure number; again I'm sure it's on some sort of cable or machine. There is no way he's doing a partial hammer curl with 308lb dumbell, one handed. As a reference: I can do a couple of reps with the stack/200lbs using backpressure/hammer curl movement (either standing or using a p bench) and I don't even use very much body english like you would when you pull. The cable/pulleys make is a TON easier and again, he's a world class armwrestler, not some gym rat. Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
fightertrainer Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) This link http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg shows Alexey doing tricep press. Observe carefully you will see 2 cables directly above the weight via a pulley it seems. If any weight stack being hoisted by with a pulley situated right above it. The pulley will half the weight , meaning if the stack weight is 150lbs, but it takes only a bit more 75lbs to raise it up ward. The added weight plates on top may make it 30lbs heavier at most. Add it up you will have about 105lbs total true weight being lifted. If weight stacks is 200lbs you still only have 130lbs to lift. I work in the gym for a long time, and people never understand this pulley's effect on the total weight. YOu may ask "then why put a pulley there to half the weight (reduce it by half)? With the pulley system, it allows the weight to travel half as much as you hands do (distance from the top to the bottom movement). If your hands move 20" the weight only move about 10". This is handy if an exercise requires a long throw of hands. But there are machine where cable is attached directly to the weight stack thus what you see is what you get. I hope I make it as clear as i can Edited June 20, 2007 by fightertrainer Quote
jad Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 fightertrainer, Can you provide an example or better, a picture of a machine where the weight is attached directly to the weight stack. I'm racking my brain but I can't think of any. I don't understand what the cable would run over without a pulley. Thanks, Josh Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
fightertrainer Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 fightertrainer,Can you provide an example or better, a picture of a machine where the weight is attached directly to the weight stack. I'm racking my brain but I can't think of any. I don't understand what the cable would run over without a pulley. Thanks, Josh Josh, The easiest way to picture this is: if there're only 1 cable attched to the weight stack right on top, the weight then is true to whatever you set it at. If you see 2 cables sits right above (3-4")" the stack, then the pulley is used to assist (reduce it by half). The cable loops around the pulley and go back up so you see 2 cables but actually the same one lopped around. Clear? Try not to rack your brain, go to the gym tomrrow then check it out. Look in the pic in the link you will see 2 cables instead of one right above the stack Quote
Wade Gillingham Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Good points about the cable reduction. However I'm sure the plates on top are more like 150lbs not 30lbs. It looks like 4 25's and 4 10's. With the technique he is using i'm sure he's capable of over 200lbs. I always figured there was something screwy with those Maruzenko cable machines. If you watch any of the training videos on armbets.tv you will see guys doing side pressure work with 200+ pounds with a rotating handle. Just pulling that kind of weight back with one hand and a thumbless grip is an unbelievable feat of strength for a 185lb man (Babayev). Quote
fightertrainer Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Good points about the cable reduction. However I'm sure the plates on top are more like 150lbs not 30lbs. It looks like 4 25's and 4 10's. With the technique he is using i'm sure he's capable of over 200lbs. I always figured there was something screwy with those Maruzenko cable machines. If you watch any of the training videos on armbets.tv you will see guys doing side pressure work with 200+ pounds with a rotating handle. Just pulling that kind of weight back with one hand and a thumbless grip is an unbelievable feat of strength for a 185lb man (Babayev). There's multi station machine where I work (www.fitathletic.com) One side is cable tripcep with one cable, that one is true weight. Another side is via a pulley on top of the stack, some guy can't never understand why on one he can do it at 190lbs, and another he can't barely handle 100lbs. I just smile! If the cable loops like that it's the same principle of engine hoist where there are as many as 5-6 repeat loops. 800lbs engine suddenly takes only 25 lbs of pull to hoist it up. Babayev has been know to handle 220lbs dumbbell one arm (to wrestle with it). I saw he blew away Toddzilla Hutching in a match. One thing for sure is: it seems Pro-AWers not really impressed with how much weight you can handle, the only thing matter is how well you will do the table where it really counts. Extreme heavy weight dumbbell looks good to the rest of the world though! It is like in golf, where how long you can drive the distance can't impress other golf pros that much if you don't win the tournament, still long drive of 400+ yards still a great number for us to see and to have it. As I said before pulley system is needed in case you moment is too long the weights won't hit the top part of the machine. Smaller the pulley lesser the assist too. Quote
StalwartSentinel Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Here's a good link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulley Quote
kyle102887 Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 This link http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg shows Alexey doing tricep press. Observe carefully you will see 2 cables directly above the weight via a pulley it seems. If any weight stack being hoisted by with a pulley situated right above it. The pulley will half the weight , meaning if the stack weight is 150lbs, but it takes only a bit more 75lbs to raise it up ward. The added weight plates on top may make it 30lbs heavier at most. Add it up you will have about 105lbs total true weight being lifted. If weight stacks is 200lbs you still only have 130lbs to lift. I work in the gym for a long time, and people never understand this pulley's effect on the total weight. YOu may ask "then why put a pulley there to half the weight (reduce it by half)? With the pulley system, it allows the weight to travel half as much as you hands do (distance from the top to the bottom movement). If your hands move 20" the weight only move about 10". This is handy if an exercise requires a long throw of hands. But there are machine where cable is attached directly to the weight stack thus what you see is what you get. I hope I make it as clear as i can Ummm maybe min is off or something. But I did a test on my pully in my home gym to see it's true weight and I put 50 pounds on the stacker and attached 50 pounds to the end I would use and it would pull down at all even after my slight help from the start position. When I put I think it was 10 more pounds on it it finally came down. So I don't know if what you say is exactly the proper example for all pulleys... This link http://armpower.net/galeria2_upload/semerenko2005/11.jpg shows Alexey doing tricep press. Observe carefully you will see 2 cables directly above the weight via a pulley it seems. If any weight stack being hoisted by with a pulley situated right above it. The pulley will half the weight , meaning if the stack weight is 150lbs, but it takes only a bit more 75lbs to raise it up ward. The added weight plates on top may make it 30lbs heavier at most. Add it up you will have about 105lbs total true weight being lifted. If weight stacks is 200lbs you still only have 130lbs to lift. I work in the gym for a long time, and people never understand this pulley's effect on the total weight. YOu may ask "then why put a pulley there to half the weight (reduce it by half)? With the pulley system, it allows the weight to travel half as much as you hands do (distance from the top to the bottom movement). If your hands move 20" the weight only move about 10". This is handy if an exercise requires a long throw of hands. But there are machine where cable is attached directly to the weight stack thus what you see is what you get. I hope I make it as clear as i can Ummm maybe mine is off or something. But I did a test on my pully in my home gym to see it's true weight and I put 50 pounds on the stacker and attached 50 pounds to the end I would use and it would pull down at all even after my slight help from the start position. When I put I think it was 10 more pounds on it it finally came down. So I don't know if what you say is exactly the proper example for all pulleys... ok I did something to my post accidentally and couldn't fix it LOL.....it says the same thing under each quote. But i am probably off in some way because what you say makes sense.....maybe my test was flawed. Quote Kyle Howell, from Ohio The best motivation for me is myself, always push yourself farther than you think you can go. You may just end up where you want to be.~Kyle Howell
fightertrainer Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 No, your test is not flawed. If the weight is even there will be no movement. You need heavier counter weight to move it whether it's by hands or by added weight on your side. Plus there is friction that will make it harder to move that's why you need extra 10lbs to off set the friction. Quote
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