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Finnish Open Grip Championchips 2009 Fitness Expo #3.5 certification gripper.

- SM-09 IM#3.5 / 78 kg / 172.2 lbs / rating =3.38

Not bad Razz

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kilkkinen

Steippari1967:n grippers under calibration

- Steippari1967 IM#1 / 35 kg / 77.26 lbs / rating = 0.76

- Steippari1967 RB130 / 35.5 kg / 78.77 lbs / rating = 0.82

- Steippari1967 IM#1.5 / 39 kg / 86.09 lbs / rating = 1.11

- Steippari1967 RB160 / 43 kg / 94.92 lbs / rating = 1.44

- Steippari1967 HG250 / 46 kg / 101.55 lbs / rating = 1.69

- Steippari1967 IM#2 / 46.5 kg / 102.64 / rating = 1.73

- Steippari1967 RB180 / 48.5 kg / 107.5 lbs / rating = 1.89

- Steippari1967 BBM / 52.5 kg / 115.89 lbs / rating = 2.15

- Steippari1967 IM#2.5 / 57.5 kg / 126.95 lbs / rating = 2.42

- Steippari1967 RB210 / 62.5 kg / 137.95 lbs / rating = 2.70

- Steippari1967 HG300 / 63.5 kg / 140.75 lbs / rating = 2.75

- Steippari1967 IM#3 / 65.5 kg / 144.6lbs / rating = 2.87

Total 607.

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bencrush

That's a ton of grippers! Have the majority of the new #3s come in under 152lbs in the last 12-month period?

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kilkkinen

Ben,

approximately yes. Here is the excel list all the grippers average number, what I have calibrated. My friend Force, have done this list.

Beef Builder

A: 0,48

SA: 1,32

M: 2,14

SM: 2,59

GM: 2,97

E_N: 2,70

E: 3,45

SE_N: 3,47

SE: 3,90

GE_N: 3,27

GE: 3,93

Pro_N: 3,89

Pro: 4,67

WC: 5,07

Captains of Crush

#1: 0,97

#1.5: 1,35

#2: 1,99

#2.5: 2,46

#3: 3,04

#3.5: 3,47

#4: 4,09

Robert Baraban

130: 0,76

160: 1,91

180: 2,14

210: 2,50

210N: 1,89

240: 3,02

240N: 2,78

260: 2,88

260N: 2,8

300: 3,41

300N: 3,08

330: 3,36

330N: 3,36

365: 4,27

400N: 3,83

Here is the total list:

http://p2.foorumi.info/rautakoura/viewtopic.php?t=9&start=0

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Hubgeezer
Okay, after almost 4 months, and 136 posts, I combed through everything on this thread relating to IronMind Number 3 grippers, and this is what I found:

1. There appeared to be 31 different Number 3's discussed. Some of them are listed multiple times, as some have been calibrated by more than one person.

2. One of the Number 3's that was definitely a "mutant", rated over 190 pounds, is, as pointed out in posts numbers 115, 116, and 117, an old steel handed gripper, so it is not exactly in the spirit of calibrating recent purchases, which may not be the purpose of this thread, but is a factor for me to consider what is being produced these days.

3. The other gripper with a relatively high calibration (165) appeared to drop down to 153 after being oiled (post number 70).

4. That leaves 29 Number 3's, which, rounded to the nearest pound, break down as follows:

1@142

1@143

1@144

2@145

2@147

1@148

2@149

2@150

4@151

5@152

2@153

1@154

1@155

2@156

1@159

1@161

My "hard 3" was calibrated by one person as 158, and another at 159. I listed it as 159. For Certification purposes, I was always afraid that there was a 20% chance of getting a "mutant Number 3". Obviously, based on this data, those odds are WAY off. That being said, I was at a Weightlifting contest yesterday in Los Altos California yesterday, and there was a fellow there selling House of Pain apparel, he had some IronMind grippers for sale, as well as samples of all the strengths available for squeezing. He had a Number 3 that WAS a mutant, as it was significantly tougher than my 158/159 pound gripper.

The biggest surprise is that there are as many as there are UNDER 150 pounds. Most of us are paranoid of the "mighty 3s of today". Looks to be a myth, not fact. Quite frankly, these numbers indicate these things have less variabilty than I had given IronMind credit for.

So, what I got out of this is that I need to dominate my Hard Number 3, and I should be ready for Certification.

Thanks everyone for your hard work weighing mailing measuring sharing the information.

Mike

Kilkkenen's Finnish gripper calibrations is one of the most impressive pieces of work I have seen. Wow! Too bad we are not paying you by the hour!

I combed through it and found that there were 52 Number 3s, one of them filed, so 51 Number 3s. Rounding to the nearest pound, here is what I found:

1@135

2@141

1@145

5@147

6@148

1@151

2@152

8@153

3@155

1@156

4@158

6@159

1@160

5@162

1@164

1@166

2@168

1@172

Using the actual pounds as reported, the Average was 154.5 pounds. The "Median" was 153.4 pounds.

All of that sounds good. However, the Finns seem to have many more "over 160 pound" grippers than the Americans.

Great work Kilkkinen! :rock

It has been over One Year since I did Version 2 of my Interpretation of Calibrations. Here is my Version 3.

I just went through Kilkkinen's list this time.

Unaltered IronMind Number 3's, I found 64 on his list. To the nearest pound, the Mean (average) of those was 153 pounds, and the Median (middle number, which was actually the average of two numbers, as there is no "middle" in an even number) was 153 pounds.

Rounding to the nearest pound, here is what I found this time:

1#135

1@138(new)

5@141(4 new!)

1@145

2@146(both new)

7@147(2 new)

6@148

1@149

4@150(all new!)

2@151(1 new)

2@152

6@153(2 less? Must be my error)

5@155(2 new? Maybe I mixed up my 3's and 5's last time)

1@156

4@158

6@159

1@160

4@162(1 less? Must be my error)

1@164

1@166

2@168

1@172

Here is a further breakdown of the results as well as my Subjective Objective Interpretation:

EASY MUTANTS, 140 lbs and under, 2 grippers

EASY, 141-145 lbs, 6 grippers

EASY AVERAGE, 146-150 lbs, 20 grippers

AVERAGE, 151-156 lbs, 15 grippers

HARD AVERAGE, 156-160 lbs, 12 grippers

HARD, 161-165 lbs, 5 grippers

HARD MUTANTS, 166 and over, 4 grippers

With Kilkkenen's list, the same person is using the same machine. The only new conclusion I can draw here is that in the last year, the Number 3s that he calibrated tended to be on the easy side of average. I don't know if those were mostly new grippers or older ones. I suspect newer grippers. During this same time period, I had a failed Certification attempt on a 154.24 pound gripper. We tend to make generalizations on our personal experiences, but the facts do not bear out "the Number 3s are getting harder these days". If I were paranoid, the conclusion I would reach is "Randall Strossen does not want me to get certified" :tongue . Which, is absolutely not the case. I know he stays up at night dreaming of the MILO that will carry my story of becoming a Captain of Crush :tongue . Which reminds me, I need to get in gear if I want to keep my Signature Line below :tongue .

All kidding aside, Kilkkenen, thank you again for the outstanding work you do, the records you keep, and for sharing it with us. Thank you :bow thank you kindly.

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Shoggoth

Chris, excellent write-up. This is exactly how I do it as well.

Another tip to calibrate by yourself: I have set up an iron pipe that is supported at one end and acts like a lever. I installed an eye-hook in the middle of the pipe where I can hookto the loading pin with an S-hook. I can then lift the weight easily with one hand and set the strap with the other. Once the weight load is on the gripper, you can remove the lever so it's not adding any weight to the calibration. I can very easily calibrate 200+ grippers this way by myself. It's even easier if your friend is on the lever and you can set the strap with both hands.

This is an older post but I'm new to the calibrating. What I've been doing is using the ratchet on my ratchet strap to lift the weight off the floor and get it suspended. I just release the ratchet after and the weight drops and I can insert another gripper. I got some wonky high #'s on my new standard RB 280 & RB 300. I'll re do them and post my results after.

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kilkkinen

Two new special gripper were calibrated, BB_five and thin handle BBSM.

- Karhu BBM / 51.5 kg / 113.68 lbs / rating = 2.09

- Karhu BBSM / 58.5 kg / 129.13 lbs / rating = 2.48

- Karhu BBSM_thin / 61 kg / 134.7 lbs / rating = 2.61

- BB_five / 107 kg / 236.20 lbs / rating = 4.46

- Heimopäällikkö #T / 26 kg / 57.40

- Heimopäällikkö #2.5 / 58 kg / 128.03 lbs / 2.45

Total 613

http://p2.foorumi.info/rautakoura/viewtopic.php?p=17#17

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kilkkinen
Okay, after almost 4 months, and 136 posts, I combed through everything on this thread relating to IronMind Number 3 grippers, and this is what I found:

1. There appeared to be 31 different Number 3's discussed. Some of them are listed multiple times, as some have been calibrated by more than one person.

2. One of the Number 3's that was definitely a "mutant", rated over 190 pounds, is, as pointed out in posts numbers 115, 116, and 117, an old steel handed gripper, so it is not exactly in the spirit of calibrating recent purchases, which may not be the purpose of this thread, but is a factor for me to consider what is being produced these days.

3. The other gripper with a relatively high calibration (165) appeared to drop down to 153 after being oiled (post number 70).

4. That leaves 29 Number 3's, which, rounded to the nearest pound, break down as follows:

1@142

1@143

1@144

2@145

2@147

1@148

2@149

2@150

4@151

5@152

2@153

1@154

1@155

2@156

1@159

1@161

My "hard 3" was calibrated by one person as 158, and another at 159. I listed it as 159. For Certification purposes, I was always afraid that there was a 20% chance of getting a "mutant Number 3". Obviously, based on this data, those odds are WAY off. That being said, I was at a Weightlifting contest yesterday in Los Altos California yesterday, and there was a fellow there selling House of Pain apparel, he had some IronMind grippers for sale, as well as samples of all the strengths available for squeezing. He had a Number 3 that WAS a mutant, as it was significantly tougher than my 158/159 pound gripper.

The biggest surprise is that there are as many as there are UNDER 150 pounds. Most of us are paranoid of the "mighty 3s of today". Looks to be a myth, not fact. Quite frankly, these numbers indicate these things have less variabilty than I had given IronMind credit for.

So, what I got out of this is that I need to dominate my Hard Number 3, and I should be ready for Certification.

Thanks everyone for your hard work weighing mailing measuring sharing the information.

Mike

Kilkkenen's Finnish gripper calibrations is one of the most impressive pieces of work I have seen. Wow! Too bad we are not paying you by the hour!

I combed through it and found that there were 52 Number 3s, one of them filed, so 51 Number 3s. Rounding to the nearest pound, here is what I found:

1@135

2@141

1@145

5@147

6@148

1@151

2@152

8@153

3@155

1@156

4@158

6@159

1@160

5@162

1@164

1@166

2@168

1@172

Using the actual pounds as reported, the Average was 154.5 pounds. The "Median" was 153.4 pounds.

All of that sounds good. However, the Finns seem to have many more "over 160 pound" grippers than the Americans.

Great work Kilkkinen! :rock

It has been over One Year since I did Version 2 of my Interpretation of Calibrations. Here is my Version 3.

I just went through Kilkkinen's list this time.

Unaltered IronMind Number 3's, I found 64 on his list. To the nearest pound, the Mean (average) of those was 153 pounds, and the Median (middle number, which was actually the average of two numbers, as there is no "middle" in an even number) was 153 pounds.

Rounding to the nearest pound, here is what I found this time:

1#135

1@138(new)

5@141(4 new!)

1@145

2@146(both new)

7@147(2 new)

6@148

1@149

4@150(all new!)

2@151(1 new)

2@152

6@153(2 less? Must be my error)

5@155(2 new? Maybe I mixed up my 3's and 5's last time)

1@156

4@158

6@159

1@160

4@162(1 less? Must be my error)

1@164

1@166

2@168

1@172

Here is a further breakdown of the results as well as my Subjective Objective Interpretation:

EASY MUTANTS, 140 lbs and under, 2 grippers

EASY, 141-145 lbs, 6 grippers

EASY AVERAGE, 146-150 lbs, 20 grippers

AVERAGE, 151-156 lbs, 15 grippers

HARD AVERAGE, 156-160 lbs, 12 grippers

HARD, 161-165 lbs, 5 grippers

HARD MUTANTS, 166 and over, 4 grippers

With Kilkkenen's list, the same person is using the same machine. The only new conclusion I can draw here is that in the last year, the Number 3s that he calibrated tended to be on the easy side of average. I don't know if those were mostly new grippers or older ones. I suspect newer grippers. During this same time period, I had a failed Certification attempt on a 154.24 pound gripper. We tend to make generalizations on our personal experiences, but the facts do not bear out "the Number 3s are getting harder these days". If I were paranoid, the conclusion I would reach is "Randall Strossen does not want me to get certified" :tongue . Which, is absolutely not the case. I know he stays up at night dreaming of the MILO that will carry my story of becoming a Captain of Crush :tongue . Which reminds me, I need to get in gear if I want to keep my Signature Line below :tongue .

All kidding aside, Kilkkenen, thank you again for the outstanding work you do, the records you keep, and for sharing it with us. Thank you :bow thank you kindly.

Hubgeezer,

Thank you for sharing your Sherlock Holmes investigation, concering the list :) You did the particular job to find those numbers. I´m just a calibrator, others can do the analysis from the list and that is very good :) It is allways interesting to read good and accurate information. Good work Hubgeezer :)

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Some results:

- kilkkinen #3.5 / 79kg / 174.4 lbs / rating = 3.41

- kilkkinen RB300_brass / 82.5 kg / 182.1 lbs / rating = 3.54

- kilkkinen BBMM3 / 83 kg / 183.22 lbs / rating = 3.56

- kilkkinen BBSE / 85 kg / 187.63 lbs / rating = 3.64

- kilkkinen IM#4_new(08-09) 94.5kg / 208.61 lbs / rating = 3.99

- kilkkinen IM#4_new(08-09) 96 kg / 211.92 lbs / rating = 4.05

- kilkkinen IM#4_new(08-09) 97.5 kg / 215.23 lbs / rating = 4.10

- BBWC_narrow / 98 kg / 216.33 lbs / rating = 4.12

Total 621

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Junior`s and Jouni Pakarinen´ grippers were calibrated.

- Junior BBM/ 46 kg / 101,55 lbs / rating = 1.69

- Junior BBSM / 58.5 kg / 129.13 lbs / rating = 2.48

- Pakarinen #3_new filed 3mm 07-08 / 70.5 kg / 160.05 lbs / rating = 3.09

Total 624

Here is the list:

http://p2.foorumi.info/rautakoura/viewtopic.php?p=17#17

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Klesen

Thanks, guys! I've created a new list including standard deviation.

Data I've used:

this board

http://p2.foorumi.info/rautakoura/viewtopic.php?t=9

and this thread (keep on posting there!)

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=28300

Make sure to add the following information:

Who calibrated it?

results in lbs or kg.

spread?

I also added the date when your calibration has been posted here

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=28300.

Special thanks to Matti for his amount of calibrations!

rankings:

http://spreadsheets3.google.com/ccc?key=tUrRkYHMoRy4GziZURsjzaA&hl=en

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Guest Bullitt

When I stopped by Chris Rice's last Friday, he calibrated some of my grippers:

On the two filed HGs, we calibrated them for where they would be not filed (estimated where they would have touched had they not been filed) and where they actually touched filed.

Here they are, in order:

HG250: 106.5 / filed 111.6

HG350: 146.9 / filed 157.0

My easy #3: 141.5#

My easier 3.5: 169.2#

My new #4: 211.1#

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Шаши&#10

Calibrated by me ( Arian Tepper ):

#1 ----- 36.5 kg

#1.5 --- 42 kg

RB180 -- 52.5 kg

RB210 -- 61.25 kg

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Cannon

Draught-Player, what else is that white rig-up used for?

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Шаши&#10

Draught-Player, what else is that white rig-up used for?

Cannon,

This is for parallel bars dips training!

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Adam Moyers

Matt Cannon did the calibrations. Thanks a lot Matt. The 3X and 4X with vertical knurling didn't agree with the RGC. Matt and Luke estimated them to be around the same as my #2.5 and #3.

74.42 T2

82.06 COC#1

87.06 1 (DOUBLE STAMP)

89.84 RB130

93.25 T3

93.29 #1.5

98.06 HG200

108.11 RB160

110.44 RB180

110.47 T4

110.80 2(DOUBLE STAMP)

122.05 HG250

127.74 #2.5

131.57 RB240N

132.53 RB210

132.59 BC300

134.27 RB260N

138.01 RB240

139.41 HG300

141.99 T5

145.42 GM

153.03 COC#3

153.58 3(DOUBLE STAMP)

162.98 MM1 Replica

174.68 FBBC HARD

177.38 ELITE

182.46 HG350

182.46 COC3.5

211.50 4(DOUBLE STAMP)

212.37 BBSE

216.60 FBBC SUPER

229.60 COC #4

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Magnus

Nice MM1 replica you've got there.

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Adam Moyers

Nice MM1 replica you've got there.

Thanks Frank. Now I just have to get strong enough to close it. The RB 240 is the hardest of my grippers that I've closed. It seems like I got a 146lb gripper at The MO-Town Grip Down last year though.

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Cannon

190-anything still seems like a hard gripper to get. But I guess most of us can get by without one :D

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Bob Lipinski

I think the 5x by FBBC comes in around 190. I got lucky and found an old PDA at 190.

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Shoggoth

I went through some of my grippers and calibrated them using my new scale which goes to 0.2# increments. The lowest weight that I used was a 1.25# platemate. All were well oiled before commencing. Based on what I found I think it'll be Aaron Corcorran's adjustable grippers that'll be the most useful for working between 150 to 160 pounds.

I only went through my working grippers for now. I've got a few above and a few below these ones but these are of the most interest to me now.

My Original #3 - 146.8

#3 I received from Jon - 144.4

T6 - 139.4

GM - 149.2

3X Oldschool - 125.8

4X Oldschool - 146.8

Tetting Retro Heman - 132.0

Tetting Retro Beast - 146.8

Elite - 161.6

RB260 - 135.8

Adj. Elite @1/4" - 154.0 (Aaron calibrated this at 155.1 before shipping)

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Calibrated by me:

#T ------- 27 kg

#T ------- 28.5 kg

#2.5 ----- 57 kg

#3 ------- 70.2 kg

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Force

Rankings updated. Thanks for the calibration results, guys!

gripper rankings

There isn't any RB365N in the list. Gabriel Sum has RB365N calibrated 187,6 lbs.

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Does anybody know why is Grand Elite Narrow on average whopping 10,56 lbs lighter than Super Elite Narrow (163,79 vs 174,35)? When normal spread Grand Elite is on average 12,1 lbs stronger than Super Elite. That might just be coincidence, because there is a relatively small amount of those GE and SE narrows calibrated.

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