ironorr Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Anyone know how a 5/16" grade 2 hex bolt at 6" rates as far as strength on the bending scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggymountainmuscle Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Slightly harder than a yellow. http://home.insight.rr.com/strongman/yields2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaibox Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I've actually heard them compared to an easy red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironorr Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 foggymountainmuscle, That chart says that a 1/4" grade 2 bolt at 6" is slightly tougher than a white nail which I find to be impossible. I can bend the white nail with my thumb but a 1/4" bolt takes a lot more pressure. I have been told that it's slightly weaker than the yellow nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironorr Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 I'm sorry, the chart says that the white nail is STRONGER! NO WAY IS THAT POSSIBLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaibox Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ironorr, he was talking about a 5/16 bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironorr Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 I know but I went on the chart and found where it says the 1/4" ranks under the white nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ironorr, also consider that he may have tested bolts that were made by a different company. A 5/16" x 6" G2 bolt is comparable to a red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Clay made me a very handsome necklace, which consisted in part, of a bent 5/16x6" bolt that was a bit tougher than most Reds. I've also bent a bolt of the same dimensions that was a bit easier than most Reds. Again, it just comes down to the specific bolt in question. Clay explained in another post how bolts not marked as a specific grade can very greatly in strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I'm glad Clay and Eric jumped in here because I just went out and bought a bunch of G2 5/16th bolts to use for a bit of volume - as easy reds. Could the problem be that the chart is making reference to Carriage bolts - which from my understanding are threaded the entire length of the bolt (and have a flat head) and in general are made much easier than hex bolts? Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaibox Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 (edited) It does say carriage bolts for each grade 2 tested. I didn't notice that. That makes sense. BJ, it seems that most carriage bolts are fully threaded, but even the ones that aren't are easier than a normal hex. At least in my experience with them. Edited July 29, 2004 by Thaibox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqeezeMasterFlash Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 A fully threaded 1/4" bolt is about as easy as 3/16" steel. 5/16" threaded is similar to 1/4" plain steel, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drassk Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Yeah, all the carriage bolts I have (Crown Bolt Co.) are fully threaded. I found the 1/4" threaded bolts were even easier than 3/16" stock, but all my stock is CRS. The 5/16th's threaded bolts, though, seem to be a bit harder than the 1/4" hex heads (although much harder than another set of hex heads I got from Crown...the hex heads in the red packaging are much easier than the ones I have now that come in blue bags). All of the 1/4" bolts I have (grade 2's...the 5's have yet to go past a small kink) are much easier than the 1/4" CRS stock I cut to length. So be sure to look at the bolt inside the packaging before you buy, I usually buy in bulk and I'm glad I didn't buy a bunch of those 1/4" threaded bolts...I'd have to give them out to the kids or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Gave my 5/16 Grade 2 bolts a try - no where near a RED - maybe equal to a 60d. Could be the brand but they are not what I had hoped. Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstew123 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Gave my 5/16 Grade 2 bolts a try - no where near a RED - maybe equal to a 60d. I agree, they are close to a med tough 60d, but man they sure look a lot tougher, and are more impressive to the uneducated spectator at a bending session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octogen Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Do you guys think that the 5/16" grade 2's would be a good bolt for in between the IM blue and the grade 5? I can't get 60D nails out here and i'm struggling to find something that is harder than a blue but easier than the grade 5. I can get 5/16" g2s pretty easily. I've tried cutting down blues but anything shorter than 5 1/2" is hard to get a grip on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 You guys must have gotten some easier G2's than I had. What markings are on the head? The tougher ones I have have the BL on them. You might check out the 3/8" Grade 2's x 6" long for a good challenge then if that particular brand is easy. Oh, and if those 3/8"s are like reds, send me a few dozen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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