daniel_lidstrom Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 For someone such as Magnus Samuelsson who can lift 130kg with the Rolling Thunder, lifting the Inch dumbell should not be too hard, right? Even I can lift 65kg or so on the Rolling Thunder. Is the handle even wider on the Inch than the RT? -- Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showlarson Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I would think that Magnus could man handle the inch, especially regarding his RT lift which from what I understand correlates well with the inch/millenium bells. This is becasue they tend to 'roll' out of your hand like the RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodchuck Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 What makes it so hard to lift? Without enough thumb and wrist strength, it just rolls out of your grasp. It's pretty frustrating because sometimes I feel like I have a great grip on it and it just rolls right on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom of Iowa2 Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 (edited) For someone such as Magnus Samuelsson who can lift 130kg with the Rolling Thunder, lifting the Inch dumbell should not be too hard, right? Even I can lift 65kg or so on the Rolling Thunder. Is the handle even wider on the Inch than the RT?-- Daniel The Rolling Thunder is 2 3/8",smooth.The INCH replica is 2.47",smooth.The MILLENIUM is 2 3/8 with a slight knurling. I'm pretty sure there are some Pics of Samulson easily deadlifting the INCH somewhere on the internet.I'd guess he'd be a good candidate to lift the MILLENIUM....but he hasn't done it yet. With Samuelsons arm/hand strength and being a strong presser i'd suspect he could clean and push press it with practice. Some say a 220-225# Rolling Thunder correlates into lifting the INCH. The INCH isn't anything 'magical' though.It is a SOLID dumbell and thus wants to roll out of your hand.Wrist strength really helps control the Roll and good thumb strength. IMO,smaller hands can counter this 'roll'with a strong wrist. Edited March 30, 2004 by Tom of Iowa2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I think that there's a picture over at www.bodybuilding.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Does anyone know why the Inch is so much harder than the RT? Is it the fact that the Inch is picked up from the ground as opposed to the higher RT? People have mentioned that it rolls right out of your hand but does it really roll more than the RT with its revolving handle? I've never tried to lift one and I'm sure I couldn't I just don't understand what makes them so much tougher than the RT with 172 on it. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeGripper Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 One other factor is the balance of the weight being lifted. I don't have an Inch DB, but I've got a few thick dumbbell handles that I load up and play with occasionally. In comparison, with the RT the weight is evenly distributed below so there's no extra balance needed in keeping it from tilting on you and falling out of your hand, but my experience with thick handled dumbbells where you have weight on both sides of your hand makes it more difficult to manage. I find that one side will tend to hang rather than being able to keep it even the entire time, making it more likely to have it start to roll out from your hand and lose your hold. I think that this plays a big roll overall - I've done 185 on my RT, but with a 2" DB I've only managed 175 to waist height, so there's a definite difference, and it is still harder even with the smaller handle. VeGripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 The INCH isn't anything 'magical' though.It is a SOLID dumbell and thus wants to roll out of your hand. I take exception to this comment. Have you tried lifting the Inch?!? I have... and it'll hand you your ass real quick. Ask the guys who have trained to lift it and still can't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngun Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I take exception to this comment. Have you tried lifting the Inch?!? I have... and it'll hand you your ass real quick. Ask the guys who have trained to lift it and still can't do it. Dude...Man, you like, totally missed his point man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I take exception to this comment. Have you tried lifting the Inch?!? I have... and it'll hand you your ass real quick. Ask the guys who have trained to lift it and still can't do it. Dude...Man, you like, totally missed his point man. Maybe I did. So what WAS he trying to say?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngun Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 The INCH isn't anything 'magical' though.In this sentence Tom is wisely pointing out that the Inch does not possess qualities which would make it an unconquerable foe. Such as a metallic barrier, which upon contact, can turn you into a sniveling weakling incapable of picking up a paper clip; or that that it does not have a secret dragon living deep within it's walls who flies out and torches you into beef jerky (maybe this was the real reason for Thomas Inch's famed "hole".It is a SOLID dumbell and thus wants to roll out of your hand. Mr. Of Iowa2 then continues to explain why the Inch dumbell is indeed HARD to pick up. It isn't glued to the floor and doesn't possess any of the magical qualities as previously stated. Due to it's solid nature, it tends to just spin right out of the old phalanges. That's what he was trying to say 'your majesty'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom of Iowa2 Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 (edited) Never mind. Youngun explained it. i haven't tried it Snott.I have broken a dumbell off the ground a few inches- that has been described as harder than the INCH .I am not very good at thick bar but I continue to work at it. A misundertanding I erased the rest of my post. Edited March 31, 2004 by Tom of Iowa2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 QUOTE The INCH isn't anything 'magical' though. In this sentence Tom is wisely pointing out that the Inch does not possess qualities which would make it an unconquerable foe. Such as a metallic barrier, which upon contact, can turn you into a sniveling weakling incapable of picking up a paper clip; or that that it does not have a secret dragon living deep within it's walls who flies out and torches you into beef jerky (maybe this was the real reason for Thomas Inch's famed "hole". QUOTE It is a SOLID dumbell and thus wants to roll out of your hand. Mr. Of Iowa2 then continues to explain why the Inch dumbell is indeed HARD to pick up. It isn't glued to the floor and doesn't possess any of the magical qualities as previously stated. Due to it's solid nature, it tends to just spin right out of the old phalanges. That's what he was trying to say 'your majesty'. This is funny as hell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I have... and it'll hand you your ass real quick. How do you know it will kick his ass or anyone elses. Just because you don't have the strength to do it first try doesn't mean no one else can. Theres been a few who handled it with ease first try and I will bet theres tons more who would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Snott just needs to train some more. I'm not superhuman and I can pull it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showlarson Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Mob, you've gotten the MDB up to a full deadlift haven't you? That's a good lift, I didn't think anyone had gotten it up to a full dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Anyone know who is the lightest person to DL the inch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Odin, I believe there were one or two men who have lifted it and weighed less than the Inch itself! I will have to check the list I have at home. Unless someone else subscribes to the Strength & Speed newsletter. The issue before last had a list of Inch and Millenium bell lifters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie B. Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Clay, If you find the list of Inch lifters could you post it? I think a lot of guys that are aspiring to lift it would love to see it. Thanks, Chuckie B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Theres been a few who handled it with ease first try and I will bet theres tons more who would too. And the guys that HAVE done it on their very first attempt aren't the ordinary guys off the street either. They've weight trained and/or are very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Snott just needs to train some more. I'm not superhuman and I can pull it. I don't have an Inch. I do have a PDA Inch but it's not the same as the replica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Chuckie B (and others) I cannot find my newsletter anywhere! It is buried here somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Snott just needs to train some more. I'm not superhuman and I can pull it. I don't have an Inch. I do have a PDA Inch but it's not the same as the replica. I had neither and still trained to lift it - stop making excuses. When I first got access to the orginal Inch dumbbell I couldn't lift it. I went away and trained for nearly a year and got it. I did almost the same work again for the Millennium dumbbell and indeed neither myself nor David Horne on its first appearence at the OH award dinner lifted it. It took a lot of hard work and even now, if I have left off thick handle work it takes a few weeks to get the edge back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Is the PDA inch the best tool to train for it for those of us who don't want to buy an inch replica right away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I had neither and still trained to lift it - stop making excuses. I'm not making excuses, I'm just telling you what I have!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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