John Knowlton Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 This looks interesting has anyone seen or tried one 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Interesting for sure. Haven’t seen any of those before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoyoon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) I've used it before The maximum tension felt similar to coc 3.5. There was no significant difference compared to the robert baraban adjustable Edited December 23, 2023 by Seoyoon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashmonster268 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 That is pretty interesting. What is the price in the US for that monster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 I found this one on Amazon for $208.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 You have one , what do think . Is it worth spending the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Looks like something from a Terminator movie. Really cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It does look cool. I struggle with these as TSG replacements, but I acknowledge not everything is about TSGs. Expansion spring grippers can really build setting and sweep strength but they do kind of "give up" at the end. The cost is hard for me to swallow. At $208 you can buy THREE IronMind Sets of 3 and get 9 TSGs for $198. The $10 left over pretty much covers shipping. I know an adjustable gripper has more than 9 settings, but for the average person who has one of these, I wonder if they use more than 2 or 3 settings. This one is a cool design and looks well-made. Interesting to hear there is no discernable difference when compared to the RB Adjustable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 $208.00 is a lot of money. But it looks cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hayes1 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I don't have the one at the top of the page, but I do have David Horne's Vulcan and I use more than two or three settings. Admittedly, I don't use his heavier springs, but I can work up from high reps to barely closing it with both the lighter spring and a somewhat heavier spring. I also have an Ivanko Supergripper - it is the old model, so no knurled handles and only two springs. Even with that, I am capable of more than three settings. When I first got it I was fitter, stronger and of course, younger and I had a wider range than I do now. So, assuming the springs on that monster gripper aren't too strong on the lowest setting, it should be useable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Charlie Hayes1 said: I also have an Ivanko Supergripper - it is the old model, so no knurled handles and only two springs. This is an interesting comment. I believe the ISG has never changed and has always been no knurled handles and two springs. There are number of knock-offs and similar products. I saw one the other day which came with like 6 springs but was not an ISG. I know the PDA Devil's Advocate had the knurled handles. And there was another one from a company called Vice Gripper I think. Ultimately this is kind of a question I'm posing: Does anyone know if a true Ivanko Super Gripper ever had any alternate versions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, Cannon said: This is an interesting comment. I believe the ISG has never changed and has always been no knurled handles and two springs. There are number of knock-offs and similar products. I saw one the other day which came with like 6 springs but was not an ISG. I know the PDA Devil's Advocate had the knurled handles. And there was another one from a company called Vice Gripper I think. Ultimately this is kind of a question I'm posing: Does anyone know if a true Ivanko Super Gripper ever had any alternate versions? I got mine in ‘92. With the harder springs than the previous ones. According to Randall …the earliest springs were easier; 4 springs were as strong as 2 of the springs we know today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, slazbob said: According to Randall …the earliest springs were easier; 4 springs were as strong as 2 of the springs we know today. Like Randall Strossen? Just like as a matter of history he knew this answer? I guess my question is whether the ISG ever shipped in any form except 2 springs and no knurled handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I got two, with no knurled handles. yes, Randall had an old one in his garage. Said the springs were easier in the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, slazbob said: yes, Randall had an old one in his garage. Said the springs were easier in the beginning. Good to know, although possibly unrelated to whether the ISG shipped in any format except 2 springs and no knurled handles. I don't think it ever has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 I have one I got around 94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Cannon said: Good to know, although possibly unrelated to whether the ISG shipped in any format except 2 springs and no knurled handles. I don't think it ever has. On this site: title, First Super Gripper. has the beginnings from Mighty Joe. Said it was originally Black Edited December 23, 2023 by slazbob 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 The knurled handles were added to the Ivanko's as a mod by Piedmont Design back in the day. Here is a picture. I thought it was a really good modification. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoyoon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 1:07 AM, John Knowlton said: You have one , what do think . Is it worth spending the money I bought it used for $45, and it wasn't bad. But if it's $208, I don't think I'll buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 yes $208 is way too much for me. but $45. that was a good hit for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hayes1 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Hi, Sorry to all for the confusion. I should have been clearer. My gripper is an original Ivanko SG. No knurling. Most of the ones I have seen with the knurled handles were copies/knock-offs, but the first knurled version I saw was an original Ivanko SG modified by Piedemont Design Associates. In writing my comment I short-circuited all of the above to save time. I have never tried to add extra springs. I am not sure I feel confident about getting them on and off without injury. (My existing springs are very secure.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busa Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I think the first one with handles was called iron woody. The PDA version I have has 4 springs and 2 spacers plus a bar to help load the springs. Comes in a canvas bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hayes1 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 12/29/2023 at 9:04 PM, Busa said: I think the first one with handles was called iron woody. The PDA version I have has 4 springs and 2 spacers plus a bar to help load the springs. Comes in a canvas bag. Thanks, that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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