AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 So I am on week 7 of 12 of my volume phase with grippers and inevitably I’ve hit some sort of a fatigue so the past 2-3 weeks has been awful on my gripper training.. Most likely need to back off a bit which brings me to my question.. How are you guys going on about your gripper deloads, back off or whatever you might do as a “deload”? As for myself it usually last a third of my time that I worked for, so if I work for 12 weeks I’ll make sure to have a deload of atleast 4 weeks where I’ll drop down in reps and or resistance. How do you guys go about it or if you do something else feel free to share! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripperer Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) Can't advise you unfortunately, but I'll add that after hitting the #2 and then doing NOTHING with grippers for two years, beside randomly and unintelligently squeezing them with a bad set and poor effort, or maybe testing to see if I could still close the #2, I'm now going for the #2.5, which always felt impossible. My method at the moment is really minimal. Unbelievably minimal actually. Every few days I'm closing and holding the 1.5 and 2, attempting the 2.5, then closing and holding the 2 and 1.5 again. That's five hard "reps" in a pyramid fashion. I'm trying to concentrate on the skill/coordination factor and stave off injury by going low on the volume. We'll see how it works out. Edited April 8, 2023 by Gripperer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gripperer said: Can't advise you unfortunately, but I'll add that after hitting the #2 and then doing NOTHING with grippers for two years, beside randomly and unintelligently squeezing them with a bad set and poor effort, or maybe testing to see if I could still close the #2, I'm now going for the #2.5, which always felt impossible. My method at the moment is really minimal. Unbelievably minimal actually. Every few days I'm closing and holding the 1.5 and 2, attempting the 2.5, then closing and holding the 2 and 1.5 again. That's five hard "reps" in a pyramid fashion. I'm trying to concentrate on the skill/coordination factor and stave off injury by going low on the volume. We'll see how it works out. Sounds good for sure, especially focusing on those holds will make you gain strength even more so! Also going up in a pyramid fashion will prevent injury very well Let me know how it goes, rooting for you pal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 If you don't want to overcomplicate things, you could do the typical 1-2 weeks of easy, thoughtful reps at 40-70% of your 1RM. Alternatively, if your mesocycle progression allows for it, you could do more of wave loading approach: when you hit a plateau or workout where you cannot complete the work as prescribed, you move back down your progression 10-15% for your next workout and begin waving back up, hopefully making it further than the previous wave. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho_grip_lift Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, AdriaanRobert96 said: So I am on week 7 of 12 of my volume phase with grippers and inevitably I’ve hit some sort of a fatigue so the past 2-3 weeks has been awful on my gripper training.. Most likely need to back off a bit which brings me to my question.. How are you guys going on about your gripper deloads, back off or whatever you might do as a “deload”? As for myself it usually last a third of my time that I worked for, so if I work for 12 weeks I’ll make sure to have a deload of atleast 4 weeks where I’ll drop down in reps and or resistance. How do you guys go about it or if you do something else feel free to share! I usually workout in the range between 145 and 152, and do deload sessions once my performance drops. On deload sessions I do less volume with my lightest #3, 139 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) I train as hard as I can, as often as I can. Right now, once a week is the sweet spot for recovery between my all out sessions. I'm dialing back my pinch and thick bar work for a few weeks so I can try to get 2x gripper sessions a week now that I closed my GHP8... I want that 3.5 cert more than ever. I deload for an extra week if I ever hit a wall on progress and effort. Edit: Deload means I do only enough reps on my trainer and extensor bands to get a pump 2-3x a week. Edited April 8, 2023 by dubyagrip 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, DoctorOfCrush said: If you don't want to overcomplicate things, you could do the typical 1-2 weeks of easy, thoughtful reps at 40-70% of your 1RM. Alternatively, if your mesocycle progression allows for it, you could do more of wave loading approach: when you hit a plateau or workout where you cannot complete the work as prescribed, you move back down your progression 10-15% for your next workout and begin waving back up, hopefully making it further than the previous wave. Hmm alright, love the feedback Both sound very intriguing, altho I feel like the first sounds like less headache Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, pancho_grip_lift said: I usually workout in the range between 145 and 152, and do deload sessions once my performance drops. On deload sessions I do less volume with my lightest #3, 139 Sounds like something I usually do, altho I was being a little stubborn this time around.. it’s a little but about patience with these things aswell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, dubyagrip said: I train as hard as I can, as often as I can. Right now, once a week is the sweet spot for recovery between my all out sessions. I'm dialing back my pinch and thick bar work for a few weeks so I can try to get 2x gripper sessions a week now that I closed my GHP8... I want that 3.5 cert more than ever. I deload for an extra week if I ever hit a wall on progress and effort. Edit: Deload means I do only enough reps on my trainer and extensor bands to get a pump 2-3x a week. Interesting way of deloading (no judgement) just different and as long as it works it’s great.. Don’t you feel like it’s takes some time to get back traction after the deload? Especially going as low as the trainer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubyagrip Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, AdriaanRobert96 said: Interesting way of deloading (no judgement) just different and as long as it works it’s great.. Don’t you feel like it’s takes some time to get back traction after the deload? Especially going as low as the trainer? Not at all. I come back stronger. I think there's a real problem with over complicating training. Periodization can work, but old school never stopped working. If you're losing strength after a week off, it is more likely psychological rather than physiological. Edited April 8, 2023 by dubyagrip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 My current deload method is not having enough time to regularly train v_v 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I have only ever done planned deloads for grip before a contest where I will just take the week off completely other then blood flow work(extensor bands, stretching etc) or because of pain. I always have hit PR's on contest day so the deloads definitely help. I think it's wise to deload if your feeling any type of injury. Injury prevention is key in strength sports as an injury can set you back quite a bit. That said I do deloads with my regular strength training and Its every 4-6 weeks and I feel it keeps my body from getting injured. Generally this happens normally during a busy week and I can just get the the gym a few times like this past week. In general I think deloads are to help prevent injuries so listen to your body and try to stay healthy so you can keep training. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist of Fury Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Just grind it out and then take a few weeks off from grip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuttgens Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I do grippers once a week and I guess sort of auto regulate a bit where if I am having a really bad session I’ll just cut a ton of volume out maybe just do like 3 sets and call it good and hopefully come back feeling better the next time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, C8Myotome said: My current deload method is not having enough time to regularly train v_v I feel for you, but I bet it works.. for me the hardest part with grippers is waiting for the next session Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Stephen Ruby said: I have only ever done planned deloads for grip before a contest where I will just take the week off completely other then blood flow work(extensor bands, stretching etc) or because of pain. I always have hit PR's on contest day so the deloads definitely help. I think it's wise to deload if your feeling any type of injury. Injury prevention is key in strength sports as an injury can set you back quite a bit. That said I do deloads with my regular strength training and Its every 4-6 weeks and I feel it keeps my body from getting injured. Generally this happens normally during a busy week and I can just get the the gym a few times like this past week. In general I think deloads are to help prevent injuries so listen to your body and try to stay healthy so you can keep training. Sounds like a plan I usually do listen but for some reason I was being a dummy this time around.. I’ll definitely do a week off or just stay way below my usual grippers for a week or 2 For me it’s the fatigue more than anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Fist of Fury said: Just grind it out and then take a few weeks off from grip. Yeah, I’ll probably go down to a lighter gripper for a week or two and let my hands recover well.. after my 12 weeks i’ll probably take a full week or 2 off and go slowly build up on my #3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Nuttgens said: I do grippers once a week and I guess sort of auto regulate a bit where if I am having a really bad session I’ll just cut a ton of volume out maybe just do like 3 sets and call it good and hopefully come back feeling better the next time. As long as it worksI have a hard time deciding what to do some times Probably grind out the last 5 weeks but I’ll drop down to a lighter gripper and do sets of 10+ for a week or two then take a proper full week off before building myself up to the #3.5 peak. Phew.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriaanRobert96 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, dubyagrip said: Not at all. I come back stronger. I think there's a real problem with over complicating training. Periodization can work, but old school never stopped working. If you're losing strength after a week off, it is more likely psychological rather than physiological. Yeah you’re spot on with the old school methods Probably drop down a week or two to my #2.5 and slay a set of 10-15 reps during those weeks then after my 5 weeks I’ll probably get a full deload and peak for my #3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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