Guest Harlan Jacobs Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Now I know Ronnie is juiced up to the gills, But still !!!!!!!!!!!! No Super Suit . IMPRESSIVE, to say the least . http://www.silovytrojboj.sk/video/dl/Ronni....4reps.mpg.mpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I saw those clips. Man what a beast. He would have to be one of the ones they consider a strong bodybuilder. Too bad he will probably be dead in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Matt, That really isn't a pleasant thing to say. Yah, it may happen, but stating something like that about someone isn't that respectful. Harlan, there are a lot of powerlifters who can deadlift that much in their sleep for reps and even without your emphasized "power suit". Suits really do not give the lifter much on the deadlift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 "Harlan, there are a lot of powerlifters who can deadlift that much in their sleep for reps and even without your emphasized "power suit"." At 8% BF ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Chuck Vogelpohl in the 8% category Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Chuck is not at 8% BF, rather 14% + but he is quite lean for a powerlifter, good point Landon ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 The only question about that clip is the weight he is using (or is claiming, at any rate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I read somewhere that Chuck was below 10% at one time when he pulled. Oh well. Mac, well then we better get Louie Simmons over to that gym immediately to verify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubthewonderscot Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I keep getting a password request. Is there a way to get signed up for that site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooligan Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 It is asking me for a username/password as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Van Weele Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 It was working for a while now I can't use it either. I guess I was a disrespectful in my coment but the drug use is a little sickening too me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom of Iowa2 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Now I know Ronnie is juiced up to the gills, But still !!!!!!!!!!!! No Super Suit . IMPRESSIVE, to say the least . http://www.silovytrojboj.sk/video/dl/Ronni....4reps.mpg.mpeg As apposed to all the powerlifters ....who aren't juiced to the gills? Very impressive. Coleman did a full powermeet years ago...when he was much smaller.i believe he got a single at 760#!!!I beleive he did this.No problem.IF he focused for a 1 rep Max?instead of all the reps and hours of training involved in bodybuilding....he's be a 900 plus deadlifter.Quite realistic. Thanks for the clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom of Iowa2 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Harlan, there are a lot of powerlifters who can deadlift that much in their sleep for reps and even without your emphasized "power suit". Suits really do not give the lifter much on the deadlift. I don't know if there are a 'lot'of powerlifters that can do this in their sleep? 760X4 computes into an 860#Max,according to the Gillinghams MAX calculator.If not an 860?I'd guess this guy good for 825 by the way those reps looked! www.jackalsgym.com/programs/max.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 oh max charts ;p Tom, where do you live? I want to train with you sometime. Ames is right in the middle of this wonderful state. Let me take advantage of it sometime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harlan Jacobs Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 On the same website 5 1/2 weeks out from the Olympia, he does 800 for a double. And no Landon , he is not a world class powerlifter. But many of them wish( even in the dreams) that they could do 800 for a double. Let alone be in that kind of shape. Andy Bolton pulled 933 at the Arnold. So I don't think Ronnie's 825 or so, is to bad . Being that his main concern is being in shape, not power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffPeterson Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I've seen video of him doubling 800 with some room to spare. 860 is very realistic for him. Matt's drug comment wasn't mean either, it is too bad that he'll probably be dead in a couple years. And Harlan's suit comment was appropriate. It is more impressive without the super suit. It's hard to take lifts that are done in suits seriously because you don't know how much the lifter can actually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffPeterson Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I guess Harlan was posting the 800x2 as I was writting mine, sorry for the repition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harlan Jacobs Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 We all know how widespread drug use is in bodybuilding as well as powerlifting. This clip just got my atention for the fact it is rare when you see someone with the build that Ronnie has have that kind power. Even with all the good drugs , he has to be really strick on the diet at that close to a show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Ronnie's forehead is stamped with genetics. He's got HUGE muscle size and massive strength to back it up. He was a freak and squatting mid-7's and deadlifting around that (with suit, etc.) before he got into serious drug usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinslater Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I agree with wanna. I also hated the equipment as much as the next guy but again the deadlift is the one lift where equipment doesnt play a huge role. Ive heard of guys getting 50 pounds max out of a suit in the dl. and the average is about 20. Compared to the squat and bench where some guys are getting close to 200 pounds these days, Ill take it. awesome lift regardless of the circumstances. I would also say that a 800x2 is probably world class. . . Austin S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I love equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 leeme guess... like parachute pants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 (edited) Ronnie lifted in an IFSA power meet here in north Texas about 2 years ago. He squatted I think in the high 7's, benched in the low to mid 5's, and I know he pulled in the low 8's (I'm almost certain it was 815). Lifting in the 242 pound class, as he did, would cerainly qualify him as world class, and then some. I've never even seen a steroid, but if one chooses to use and compete with other users as apparently does Ronnie, I personally don't have a problem with it. Here's what chaps my hide: being "beaten" by a juicer in what is supposed to be a drug free meet, as has happened to me on occasion. Edited December 5, 2003 by EricMilfeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianders1 Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 I couldn't see the video either, but I found this link describing the whole video - drugs or not it sounds like the guy works his heart out: "RONNIE COLEMAN - THE UNBELIEVABLE" Video Review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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