Guest Jeff Roark Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Anyone using these things yet? I just saw them over at the PDA site while looking at their Clubbells. Strangely I had though of someway to do this but was unsuccessful in following through with it. I simply was going to attempt to use a regular pipe clamp and keep tightening it down at the end of the handles closest to the spring to close the gripper down but remain out of the way for the attempt. I don't think my idea would have worked so well. man just noticed I got one hell of a run-on sentence up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 This a result of W-grip brainstorming with John S. over at PDA Cutting edge if you ask me! I have one on order, a P2. I think the 1st batch is going to take 10 business days to get out From Monday Sept 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incindium Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Zcor, from what I understand from reading the article is that you get one collar that can be set to both the P1 and P2 positions. However if you have a gripper with alot of skew the P2 position possiblly may not fit properly. I'm really looking forward myself to really concentrating on the close using these collars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Zcor, from what I understand from reading the article is that you get one collar that can be set to both the P1 and P2 positions. However if you have a gripper with alot of skew the P2 position possiblly may not fit properly. I'm really looking forward myself to really concentrating on the close using these collars. Incindium, I say if the mother gives me a hassle, I`ll send it back and ask John to fix it Actually, I have a decent collection of grippers to choose from, so maybe that will not be a problem. I plan on using it on 3s and Elites and a couple of RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 How is this different from setting the gripper? Doesn't seem worth the money to me. Setting and strapholds are free. If you really want a gadget to work the close then I recommend the Gripinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 How is this different from setting the gripper? Doesn't seem worth the money to me. Setting and strapholds are free.If you really want a gadget to work the close then I recommend the Gripinator. You knows what pal? I think your opinion sux!! I put my $$ where I want!! I do not consider PDAs equipmqnt gadgets either and for your edification, I have a Gripanator and was one of the first ones to get one too............ Man I need a break from some of these inane posts............. I`m out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 Zcor, from what I understand from reading the article is that you get one collar that can be set to both the P1 and P2 positions. However if you have a gripper with alot of skew the P2 position possiblly may not fit properly. I'm really looking forward myself to really concentrating on the close using these collars. Here's some thoughts on how it works. First, we found out yet ANOTHER gripper variance(s). P1 and P2 and how it fits depends on what gripper (3 or 4 for example) and how the spring and handles are fit together and even the spring itself. The handles on ALL grippers bow after a certain amount of deflection of the spring which is why the dynamics of the sweep and of course the close itself varies a lot. The choker allows you to work the close without the hassle of setting and cheating down a bigger gripper than you might be able to close. In fact, a little variation is to literally BLAST your close by forcing a BTR gripper shut, out, shut, out, shut, out....you can do this to a much GREATER degree than if you tried to hold it yourself at the near close position. You also start from a dead stop, in some cases RIGHT at the transition to the close. It allows you to explose the last inch or so right to BTR if you have it cut. You can just set the gripper in your hand without setting and blast from that position allowing for "no sets" from various positions (assuming you have multiple grippers to do this with) with ease. All in all, a great addition to my training arsenal. My friend at work keeps stealing it and doing reps during the work day! My BTR #3 is set about 1 1/4 inches and he's working on the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 I really like the choker idea. RSW has a point about the Gripinator, you are able to simulate a choked gripper with the "G." In fact, this is how I do my negatives with this machine. The only problem is the "G" isn't as portable as a choked gripper. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 I don't know about carrying around a choked gripper, i'd be worried that the thing would 'go off' and take out a busload of nuns or something. Seriously, wanna, how long has john at pda had a gripper choked for? it would seem that the constant pressure would degrade the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 (edited) it would seem that the constant pressure would degrade the spring. Will it degrade a torsion spring? If so this device could be useful for "softening up" that tough #4 I don't think it will though.You knows what pal? I think your opinion sux!! I put my $$ where I want!!I do not consider PDAs equipmqnt gadgets either and for your edification, I have a Gripanator and was one of the first ones to get one too............ Man I need a break from some of these inane posts............. I`m out Since when is "gadget" a dirty word ? Let us know the advantages (aside from portability) of your choker collar over the Gripinator. I am interested in your opinion. Unless zcor="PDA shill", in which case your opinion is worthless. Edited September 11, 2003 by RSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 "Let us know the advantages (aside from portability) of your choker collar over the Gripinator. I am interested in your opinion." I have both. Portability is one. Specificity is another. Cost is another. I use both and have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd8dky Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 At the risk of inflaming egoes, I've done the same thing for quite a while using a massive plastic cable tie. It goes down on the end where your hands are, obviously, but it provides the same effect. I haven't found that it interferes with the reps. I do this with both a #3 and #4 (I'm less than 1/4" away from closing the #3). Cheers, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 At the risk of inflaming egoes, I've done the same thing for quite a while using a massive plastic cable tie. It goes down on the end where your hands are, obviously, but it provides the same effect. I haven't found that it interferes with the reps.I do this with both a #3 and #4 (I'm less than 1/4" away from closing the #3). Cheers, Paul The trick is to not let it interfere. Without that, you've totally disrupted the feel, etc. No egos involved here although it's interesting since you decide to post now in this thread when your last post was on Jul 21...nearly two months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 wd8ky, Terry Duty has been doing the same thing as you with a steel triangle which he slides over the ends of the handles. Also, some cheap plastic handled grippers come with an S-hook just below the spring to prevent the handles from opening too wide. IMHO, PDA's design is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 It does not matter who gets credit for the idea. The fact is that Wannagrip did something about it. He contacted PDA, and now a device is available for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd8dky Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Wanna, I've been between jobs in the past couple of months, and have just got settled into a new routine. I saw the mention of the product (which I agree, is an excellent idea), and just wanted to share my method. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Wanna,I've been between jobs in the past couple of months, and have just got settled into a new routine. I saw the mention of the product (which I agree, is an excellent idea), and just wanted to share my method. Paul Just bustin your chops. Good luck with the new job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripintime2 Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Placed my order for the chokers. Kind of thought about the same thing with .250 bar 'wrapped around' for a certain distance of the handles....Couldn't get it to work the right way..... I'll leave the designing to the men that know what to do...and can then get it done. Great ideas for the combined minds of Bill and John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The adapter plate allows you to use it on a 2 as well. I just tried it today. Worked great. Didn't try it on a #1 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Styles Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 I had no comprehension of how much harder it is to start crushing from the parallel position until I tried it tonight. Insane! If you want to see how it feels, stick the handles of a gripper just below the spring inside a 2" washer. It won't stay put after you close, but you can see why the choker rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Walker Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 This thing has got to be one of the best ideas since KTA for grippers. This will make strap holds with a #3 VERY doable. You can hover the gripper over the strap, close it down, and you are ready to rock. NOTHING will work the crush better. WOW! I have to have one- Rick Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinslater Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Rick I agree, staps can be kinda hard if your by yourself. This will allow us to probably use more weight on the straps also. Lets see how far we can push the limits! Should be interesting Austin Slater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Anyone ordered a choker from PDa? They should be shipping soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Yes ... placed an order on the 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Me too I ordered one the day I found out about them. Should get them next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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