Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 A word to the wise. Stay away from ring one finger lifts. I was told this before and did not listen. Actually heard @Jedd Johnson voice in my head telling me not to! Next time I shall listen to the voice! Decided to do them anyway. I heard my ring finger forearm/wrist flexor tendon snap and separate (at least that’s what I thought). The next day, these bruises appeared. Now the funny part is, I have NO LOSS of function at all. So it is definitely not torn, but it is definitely damaged as evidenced by the feeling of and appearance of the bruise. I got blessed by the grace of God to not be set back in my training, (just yet). Time will tell. But please guys, stay away from these. I do not want to see anyone out on the sidelines for such a stupid move. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Pupchenko Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 With tendon or ligament tears, there is usually no hematoma and there should be a reduction in the function of the joints ... Most likely it is a muscle tear in the place of attachment to the tendon ... For a while, you will need to reduce the load and take anti-inflammatory (meloxicam is much better than ibuprofen for this), about a week, to decrease the swelling and inflammation (swelling and the inflammatory process slows down the recovery, besides inflammation can weaken the remaining part of the tendon, and when returning to training, it can rip completely) ... I wish you a speedy recovery, my friend, and new records on training and competition !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ivan Pupchenko said: With tendon or ligament tears, there is usually no hematoma and there should be a reduction in the function of the joints ... Most likely it is a muscle tear in the place of attachment to the tendon ... For a while, you will need to reduce the load and take anti-inflammatory (meloxicam is much better than ibuprofen for this), about a week, to decrease the swelling and inflammation (swelling and the inflammatory process slows down the recovery, besides inflammation can weaken the remaining part of the tendon, and when returning to training, it can rip completely) ... I wish you a speedy recovery, my friend, and new records on training and competition !!! Yeah man, I’ve been icing it like crazy and using a deep blue essential oil rub that seems to be helping a lot. I don’t see myself being put on the shelf because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Bummer, heal up soon. I like them but I never go heavy with them, I would never max out or do it in a contest or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Climber028 said: Bummer, heal up soon. I like them but I never go heavy with them, I would never max out or do it in a contest or something. I wasn’t maxing, was using 170 for reps pretty easily, but, NEVER AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Sorry to hear joe. I hope you heal up soon and I’m glad it isn’t more serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Pupchenko Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said: Yeah man, I’ve been icing it like crazy and using a deep blue essential oil rub that seems to be helping a lot. I don’t see myself being put on the shelf because of it. Yes, this is not deadly! For the past 15 years in armwrestling, I riped my biceps, brachioradialis muscles, brachial muscles, pronators and supinators (on left arm tore it off almost completely), pectoral muscles and tendons on all these muscles. I’m not even talking about lateral and medial ligaments of elbow or wrists... Man is fragile in his body, and this applies to everyone. But some are strong in his spirit and do not give up, even losing an arm or leg... such a minor nuisance just can not stop a strong man!))) But 5-7 injections of meloxicam every other day I would do it if I were you. It will not do any harm and should not cost much, but in the long run it will help you to quickly return to hard training ... I do not know what "oil" you use - but if that - such injuries cannot be heated (dont use warming agents)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chez said: Sorry to hear joe. I hope you heal up soon and I’m glad it isn’t more serious Dude I was blessed! Totally! Absolutely no change in function. Thanks brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ivan Pupchenko said: Yes, this is not deadly! For the past 15 years in armwrestling, I riped my biceps, brachioradialis muscles, brachial muscles, pronators and supinators (on left arm tore it off almost completely), pectoral muscles and tendons on all these muscles. I’m not even talking about lateral and medial ligaments of elbow or wrists... Man is fragile in his body, and this applies to everyone. But some are strong in his spirit and do not give up, even losing an arm or leg... such a minor nuisance just can not stop a strong man!))) But 5-7 injections of meloxicam every other day I would do it if I were you. It will not do any harm and should not cost much, but in the long run it will help you to quickly return to hard training ... I do not know what "oil" you use - but if that - such injuries cannot be heated (dont use warming agents)! It’s called deep blue essential oil rub. Works wonders. One time I hit my shin with a sledgehammer and there was a huge lump, I put the oil on it and it was gone the next day. No joke.It’s called deep blue essential oil rub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivan Pupchenko said: With tendon or ligament tears, there is usually no hematoma and there should be a reduction in the function of the joints ... Most likely it is a muscle tear in the place of attachment to the tendon ... For a while, you will need to reduce the load and take anti-inflammatory (meloxicam is much better than ibuprofen for this), about a week, to decrease the swelling and inflammation (swelling and the inflammatory process slows down the recovery, besides inflammation can weaken the remaining part of the tendon, and when returning to training, it can rip completely) ... I wish you a speedy recovery, my friend, and new records on training and competition !!! Same may apply if they snap completely. It also can produce a very loud sound when the a tendon snaps under load. The table top wrist curl is a very solid performer if you want to completely sever tendons. Edited March 20, 2019 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said: I wasn’t maxing, was using 170 for reps pretty easily, but, NEVER AGAIN I'm now announcing the Joe Sullivan memorial competition, one finger lifts, last man standing, opening weight 171lbs Feb 30th 2020, free entry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikael Siversson said: Same may apply if they snap completely. It also can produce a very loud sound when the a tendon snaps under load. The table top wrist curl is a very solid performer if you want to completely sever tendons. Definitely not snapped if I have no strength loss or function loss. I’m going with a partial Muscle tear, most likely flexor digitorum profundus or superficialis. Could’ve been much worse but I won’t miss a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Climber028 said: I'm now announcing the Joe Sullivan memorial competition, one finger lifts, last man standing, opening weight 171lbs Feb 30th 2020, free entry There will never be a one finger lift for this guy, ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IROC-Z Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Wishing you a speedy recovery big Joe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, IROC-Z said: Wishing you a speedy recovery big Joe! I’ll be levering and gripping tonight. So we shall see. My results will be posted here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Pupchenko Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mikael Siversson said: Same may apply if they snap completely. It also can produce a very loud sound when the a tendon snaps under load. The table top wrist curl is a very solid performer if you want to completely sever tendons. The sound is different when muscles and tendons are torn. if you have heard that in your body, you will never mix it up. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluv#0 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Joe, glad you were not injured seriously. Only 1 finger lifts I have tried is single middle finger barbell DL but it was light around 75-85lbs - eventually decided it was not worth it at my age. Edited March 20, 2019 by Kluv#0 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ivan Pupchenko said: The sound is different when muscles and tendons are torn. if you have heard that in your body, you will never mix it up. .. Sounded exactly the same as when I tore my middle finger pulley last year. Like a rubber band snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kluv#0 said: Joe, glad you were not injured seriously. Only 1 finger lifts I have tried is single middle finger barbell DL but it was light around 75-85lbs - eventually decided it was not worth it at my age. Totally agree man. So stupid of me. I knew this already and still did it. Love, live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Looks even darker since this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluv#0 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said: Looks even darker since this morning Heck, you will still be able to do your most muscular pose after levering tonite:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul valpreda Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hopefully, you'll heal soon and remember, "That which does not destroy you makes you stronger!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Heal soon bro. Don't do heavy training with the injured hands. Do the oil, ice and anti inflammation. It will even get darker tomorrow for sure. That is normal. But be careful please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kluv#0 said: Heck, you will still be able to do your most muscular pose after levering tonite:) That’s happening bro! Even if I was in a wheelchair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, paul valpreda said: Hopefully, you'll heal soon and remember, "That which does not destroy you makes you stronger!" That’s true, to an extent. Maybe mentally stronger, but sometimes not physically. My mind will keep going way before my weak body does. It will force it to action. Only those that know, will understand what I mean. I’ve had lumbar fusion, cervical fusion, elbow surgery, etc etc and it won’t hold me back. If can’t run, I walk, can’t run, I crawl, can’t crawl? I will walk on my hands or drag myself around with a rope in my teeth. Thanks for the support . Edited March 20, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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