greppstark Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Just wondering if anyone has been successfull doing a few gripper closes everyday instead of doing gripper workouts for like 1-2 times a week? I know it's easy to overtrain but if you only do a couple of singles you should be fine? I know Jonathan Vogt wrote somewhere that he always had a gripper with him and closed it during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Chezs program worked the best for me! "How I train grippers" on youtube! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greppstark Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Chezs program worked the best for me! "How I train grippers" on youtube! Actually I've seen that and I kinda follow his training style right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Radford Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 If you do the RRBT workout, this is a daily exercise. It worked for me massively getting to MM0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave murray Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Just wondering if anyone has been successfull doing a few gripper closes everyday instead of doing gripper workouts for like 1-2 times a week? I know it's easy to overtrain but if you only do a couple of singles you should be fine? I know Jonathan Vogt wrote somewhere that he always had a gripper with him and closed it during the day. i tried it on the Vulcan, for 7 days in a row. could barely hold the razor for shaving by the end of it. i suppose everyone is different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jörg Keilbach Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 "Grease the groove", or how to get superstrong without a Routine ( by Pavel ): - Strength practice the movement six times a week, if possible in multiple mini-sessions, and take sundays of. - Do not push to failure or even close to it. Most of the times do about half the reps you are capable of. Occasionaly do less or more and come within a rep or two of failure. - The less frequently you try a PR, the better. - Limit your reps to 5 per set and less. - If you did overtrain slightly cut the volume by 50 % until you are Feeling fresh and raring to go. If you do the RRBT workout, this is a daily exercise. It worked for me massively getting to MM0 Great programm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Raftopoulos Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I think there is a benefit from doing grippers almost every day (frequent loading principle). When I closed my #3 I was training 4-5 days per week. Then I took days off and had difficulty even with my 2.5. Now I'm getting closer again with a better set hopefully that qualifies for MM0. I could be wrong but I think that the risk of injury is more dependent on the intensity and how you prepare for closing heavier grippers vs the frequency of training. Also the set you use is another variable. MMS sets put more stress in the palm than CCS sets as you are using heavier grippers (At least for me that's how it feels). When I developed some pain in my palm it was when doing many many sets with grippers that I couldn't even close. Luckily it went away after a few days. I also tend to warm up similar to Chez now that I have more grippers. I use almost every single gripper I have until I can't close one with MMS (or CCS if I'm focusing on that). Then I finish my workouts with the adjustable grippers but every workout is a bit different. What I noticed (At least for me) is that the overtraining concept is mostly relevant when we talk about the past. If you developed pain = over training. If not that means your body is able to adapt and you are fine. There is a lot of trial and error I think but it's definitely less likely to get injured if you are warming up properly and keep in mind your previous errors. You know your body and your history more than anyone. Also, what I recently noticed is that my hands feel more "balanced" if I also train finger extension (IM extension bands and just got the hand yoga) and also do dynamic exercises for thumbs (pinch grip converter for grippers) the same day as gripper workouts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greppstark Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks for awesome replies guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 See my signature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Raftopoulos Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 another training routine that I like doing (perhaps others are doing the same) is start with lighter grippers and move up doing no set closes. When I get to a gripper that I cannot close TNS then I try CCS. Then I move up doing CCS until I can't close a gripper. Then I try 40 mm block set, same thing, then 30mm, then 20mm, the MMS, then deeper sets, then negatives with ext handle grippers. I try to keep track of all this to monitor any progress. Depending on how I feel sometimes I stop at CCS sometimes I go all the way to negatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Cancrusher used to do around 100 closes a day He closed a ghp#9 at age 19. Edited June 25, 2015 by Stephen Ruby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Cancrusher used to do around 100 closes a day He closed a ghp#9 at age 19. That is not easy in any way, shape, or form. I've done it and it works but painful at the same time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Yep 100 closes of CoC 3.5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Nice when putting questions up on a forum, you get different opposing opinions Here's my 2cts. Yes, there are guys moving up big grippers with high volume and everyday training, but I believe they don't represent the majority of griptrainees. John, Cancrusher etc are guys who respond great to this kind of training. If picking up grippers everyday was the solution, the #3 cert. list would be 5 times as long as it is today and people were pushing each other off the MM7/8/9 mountaintop. I would say experiment with it for a month. Key to volume training seems to be always leaving something in the tank per session. Everytime I thought I had to 'man up' and train more often I got injured, even when carefully keeping track of what I did, never maxing out, etc. The tendons and muscles just keep being bashed on and on without proper recovery. I'll take some more time than. Yes, I want to cert but I also need my hands when I (hope to) get older, without excessive damage please. You will not know any earlier however than when you have tried it. Don't forget that although the grippers up to 2.5 are no sinecure for most people, but when closing 150lbs grippers and up to 180's range where most strong people end up with dedicated training, the forces on the hands exponentially increase thus making you very vulnerable for injuries. Look at Gabriel Sum. Edited June 26, 2015 by Geralt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist of Fury Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I've been using that method, also something similar to what Chez explains in the video mentioned earlier. I'm not on #3 and beyond level of strength but using these type of workouts took me from around 105 to where I'm at now, which is 130'ish level. I have now stagnated so I'm trying the "russian strength training program" now, which is really difficult to implement with grippers but I have the Silvis T-Rex and also the RB adjustable which makes it a lot easier. I'm currently on my second week, first three weeks you only work with the same weight (gripper in this case) but on the sixth (last) week you should do a "max" of 2x2 on the first day, it will be interesting to see if I feel stronger or weaker than before on that day... In the past I've felt that I got weaker when not doing grippers every day, my PR closes has always been when I feel or think I'm the weakest The problem for me was when I trained every day, doing many heavy closes during the whole day I got injured. Took about six months to heal. I'm not sure if it was because of overtraining or not but I do believe the heavy training at least played a part in it. Lately I have found that I do very little progress, too little for me to be satisfied, so thats why I'm trying to train less to see if that works for me. The program I'm on right now is by no means a small amount of training, it's still a lot, just not as much as I did before. I've also started to focus a lot on closing speed, really trying to click all grippers I'm closing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grysyuk Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I've been using that method, also something similar to what Chez explains in the video mentioned earlier. I'm not on #3 and beyond level of strength but using these type of workouts took me from around 105 to where I'm at now, which is 130'ish level. I have now stagnated so I'm trying the "russian strength training program" now, which is really difficult to implement with grippers but I have the Silvis T-Rex and also the RB adjustable which makes it a lot easier. I'm currently on my second week, first three weeks you only work with the same weight (gripper in this case) but on the sixth (last) week you should do a "max" of 2x2 on the first day, it will be interesting to see if I feel stronger or weaker than before on that day... In the past I've felt that I got weaker when not doing grippers every day, my PR closes has always been when I feel or think I'm the weakest The problem for me was when I trained every day, doing many heavy closes during the whole day I got injured. Took about six months to heal. I'm not sure if it was because of overtraining or not but I do believe the heavy training at least played a part in it. Lately I have found that I do very little progress, too little for me to be satisfied, so thats why I'm trying to train less to see if that works for me. The program I'm on right now is by no means a small amount of training, it's still a lot, just not as much as I did before. I've also started to focus a lot on closing speed, really trying to click all grippers I'm closing. I've been using that method, also something similar to what Chez explains in the video mentioned earlier. I'm not on #3 and beyond level of strength but using these type of workouts took me from around 105 to where I'm at now, which is 130'ish level. I have now stagnated so I'm trying the "russian strength training program" now, which is really difficult to implement with grippers but I have the Silvis T-Rex and also the RB adjustable which makes it a lot easier. I'm currently on my second week, first three weeks you only work with the same weight (gripper in this case) but on the sixth (last) week you should do a "max" of 2x2 on the first day, it will be interesting to see if I feel stronger or weaker than before on that day... In the past I've felt that I got weaker when not doing grippers every day, my PR closes has always been when I feel or think I'm the weakest The problem for me was when I trained every day, doing many heavy closes during the whole day I got injured. Took about six months to heal. I'm not sure if it was because of overtraining or not but I do believe the heavy training at least played a part in it. Lately I have found that I do very little progress, too little for me to be satisfied, so thats why I'm trying to train less to see if that works for me. The program I'm on right now is by no means a small amount of training, it's still a lot, just not as much as I did before. I've also started to focus a lot on closing speed, really trying to click all grippers I'm closing. And you can learn more about the Russian program Edited June 27, 2015 by Grysyuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 To daily train, you have to cycle it. Otherwise, you can leave yourself open to injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greppstark Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Yep 100 closes of CoC 3.5 Is this something Cancrusher has wrote on gripboard? Can't seem to find the link.I'm willing to try his methods with a slight easier gripper.. Edited July 18, 2015 by Simon Norevi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 It was on one of his status updates like a year ago so if you go on his profile you should find it somewhere, but other than that send him a PM as he has always answered my messages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Yep 100 closes of CoC 3.5 Is this something Cancrusher has wrote on gripboard? Can't seem to find the link.I'm willing to try his methods with a slight easier gripper.. Try RRBT then. Its just that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greppstark Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 It was on one of his status updates like a year ago so if you go on his profile you should find it somewhere, but other than that send him a PM as he has always answered my messages Thanks Josh!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Matney Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I I train grippers more than once per week it causes problems for me. Then again I am an unfortunate victim of a connective tissue disorder known as....weakness. I'm working on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpGrip Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 what about doing rolling thunder or hub blob lifts everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 what about doing rolling thunder or hub blob lifts everyday You would have to stay in the 60-70% max range to not get injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Yep 100 closes of CoC 3.5 Is this something Cancrusher has wrote on gripboard? Can't seem to find the link.I'm willing to try his methods with a slight easier gripper.. Try RRBT then. Its just that. Not sure if cancrusher did this but John did 100 reps with his 3.5 in 1.5 hour I guess. This is amazing. John could close 198LB gripper. That makes him in CoC #4 league. I am sure he can close one of my #4's. On the other hand, I now remember cancrusher once said he did same thing too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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