jvance Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) I recently learned thru the grapevine that a fundamental rule regarding the hub has been changed about a month away from one the most anticipated contests of the year. I also heard that a major competitor pulled out, via Facebook. Why are we allowing last minute rule changes? Why are the IM rules being scratched for lax ones that allow door knob grip when the IM ones have been the standard for years?! I was on the fence about going to King Kong this year but if the new rules go into effect I am definitely not competing. Last minute rule changes are not fair to to competing masses and anyone not in the "in" crew. I was hoping we would learn our lesson w/ the pinch curl. Also long standing rules being eased for higher numbers is not fair to previous competitors who may not compete anymore. It'd be like IM accepting 20mm blocks for the 3 when the CCS rule had been the standard for a good while. C'mon guys lets keep things fair and equitable! Edited September 23, 2014 by jvance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Wait what was the rule change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 jon, where are you seeing this? also, i think when they say doorknob they are referring to v-bar style. not, the cocked thumb and angled fingers that seems to be popular with some. could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Didn't Juha just post a fairly descriptive and definitive video on this? Seems all the traditional styles were in the allowed category (speaking as a thumb cocker), and the disallowed ones were a V-Bar Grrip and tilting the hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I feel you John, scratch me off the list, I was on the fence anyway, the grip homies are awesome but the practice of just switchin it up last minute as well as posting standings months after comps is pathetic to say the very least. More ppl should speak up. As with any REAL sport rules should stand through a competitive season. The MLB doesnt change rules a month before the world series, no brainer ppl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodyburns Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Hope they get this figured out. When you got the defending champ pulling out seems like a wake up call. For me I would like to know that everyone I compete with is lifting it the same sorda way. That way you can compare your numbers with the best in the business. Allowing different grios is ok if everyone is on board from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 This stuff is all on FB guys... I don't have the urls but I saw the screenshots. If you're on FB I'd check the promoters pages. That's another gripe I have w/ it.... None of this stuff was discussed/announced on the board either. Perception is bad here. I'm not the only one who sees this stuff as shady practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodyburns Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Hope they get this figured out. When you got the defending champ pulling out seems like a wake up call. For me I would like to know that everyone I compete with is lifting it the same way. That way you can compare your numbers with the best in the business. Allowing different grips is ok if everyone is on board from the start and everyone can agree. Not a month away from this big of a contest. I personally have always thought that the claw was the only way to lift it. I guess I never thought of cheating the lift for higher numbers. Maybe some guys dont look at it as cheating. To me if your not going by Ironminds rules than why have the event on a world scale in the first place. I sure hope this gets cleared up and is more of a standard everyone goes by. For me if you cant compete against the best competitors like Juha how will you ever know where you really truly stand ? Take out the guess work. Id rather it be tight rules and fair then vice versa with big name guys opting out for something like this. Whats more important ? Inflated numbers for NAGS or equal Ironmind worldly numbers ? This is a international contest so I'd say it should be held to the best standard there is. Maybe thats easier said than done. Maybe every venue needs to video tape each competitors'grip before each attempt just in case world records or overall standings are at risk. My 2 cents... Edited September 23, 2014 by kodyburns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm barely on Facebook anymore. I removed like 800 friends I don't interact with on a daily basis. I would expect for Grip related info I would come to the Gripboard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 It's good to have a personal idea of the present and future direction of the sport. What's NOT alright is blackmailing promoters and organizers into listening to you. Come on guys, it's very simple. "If this event gets dropped, I'm not going to your contest" "I'll write bad reviews on your product if you kick me off the board" "That lift better pass, or I'm quitting grip" I'm not in the in-crowd but I've been here long enough to see things like this happen quite a bit. What shouldn't be forgotten is that the people making rules are also thinking about the growth of the sport. They have their best intentions. Time to be adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What's NOT alright is blackmailing promoters and organizers into listening to you. What the hell are you talking about? And what growth of the sport? You have people jumping ship left and right. Strong people who should be strong competitors. That might give one pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Yori I think youve missed a very fundamental point that only adults could possibly understand, as long as these sudden changes continue to happen, ie suspiciously not announcing changes on the board where we discuss all things grip, no? Take a jab like a man and call ppl out, no one knows the reason ppl participate in the "sport" other than the competitor. Your comment is mostly irrelevant to the topic at hand. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I saw the word "Crew" above. I SURELY hope that is not an insinuation of some sort that I had anything to do with this rule change, Jon Vance. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I will dumb it down once and for all, just for the trolls. Because jcab seems to have a hard time understanding things, I'll specify here that he and Sharkey are the ones I'm talking about. The promoters have not decided anything as of yet. They do not announce things until things are decided because people react like this. They don't want to deal with guys who have limited days in the sport, with special snowflake ideas, thinking that their idea is more valuable than what the collective takes time to discuss. They probably scratch their heads when those people start talking about starting their own governing body, minimal experience and all. Now, instead of doing all this, I think it would be just wonderful if people could consider that the promoters actually DO care about the sport and aren't intentionally changing rules just to screw you up. That's all, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Well said. The whole entire matter is still being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) If things arent announced till decided why is there a discussion on it Braniac? The question here is obviously beyond the intellectual grasp of Yori, why is a rule magically a topic of discussion right before a competitions date? Shall I spell it for you Yori. Stop kissing promoter ass and think for yourself. Edited September 23, 2014 by jcab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 This is really stuff we don't want posted here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sharkey Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Yeah Jedd. Where exactly is this discussion you speak of? On Facebook? In private threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I guess you guys can go over to Facebook and complain from now on. Especially since terms that are flaming are now being thrown out. Thanks. Go to Facebook and look up Juha Harju Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What are you trying to say Shark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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