bubba29 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 So my local Tractor Supply carries Diamond Classic shoes for a decent price. I have been inspired to try this by some great horseshoe bend videos posted here recently. Can anyone recommend the easiest size to start with for a beginner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Great list Tommy. One thing to be aware of is the diamond classics vary. Grab a handful and compare the thickness. Pick a few of the thinner ones to start. Welcome to the madness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 DC1 DC0 DC2 and in that order. also, here is a list of horse shoe difficulty. Beginner 1. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #2 2. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #1 3. St. Croix Forge Polo #2 4. St. Croix Forge Polo #1 5. St. Croix Forge Polo #0 6. St. Croix Forge Polo #00 7. Diamond Classic 1 8. Diamond Classic 0 9. Diamond Classic 2 10. St. Croix Forge Lite Rim 0 Novice 11. Kerckhaert sx7 12. St croix Lite rim 2 13. Nordic Delux 2 14. St croix lite rim 3 15. Nordic Delux 3 16. St croix lite rim 1 17. Werkman 3 18. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #3 19. St croix Lite plain #3 Advanced 20. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #5 21. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #2 22. Diamond bronco PL 000 23. 5/16×7/8 healed 24. Wide sliding plate 25. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #1 26. st croix forge regular plain 000 27. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #3 28. Diamond special 5 29. Kerckhaert SSP 10×22 #5 30. St. croix plain regular #3 31. SSP 8×18 #000 32. SN 8×20 #000 33. Kerckhaert SN 10×22 #3 34. Kerckhaert SSP extra 8×22 #0 35. Unmarked healed shoe 3/8×3/4 36. AB #6 37. Kerckhaert WH 10×28 #6 i also read that list you reposted from diesel crew. i know i am a mere mortal compared to you guys but i got a dc1 and couldn't budge it. quite honestly i am pretty pissed off. i may have been screwing up technique but i got nothing. i will probably have to find some of those st. croix shoes to break in my pussy hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 DC1 DC0 DC2 and in that order. also, here is a list of horse shoe difficulty. Beginner 1. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #2 2. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #1 3. St. Croix Forge Polo #2 4. St. Croix Forge Polo #1 5. St. Croix Forge Polo #0 6. St. Croix Forge Polo #00 7. Diamond Classic 1 8. Diamond Classic 0 9. Diamond Classic 2 10. St. Croix Forge Lite Rim 0 Novice 11. Kerckhaert sx7 12. St croix Lite rim 2 13. Nordic Delux 2 14. St croix lite rim 3 15. Nordic Delux 3 16. St croix lite rim 1 17. Werkman 3 18. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #3 19. St croix Lite plain #3 Advanced 20. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #5 21. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #2 22. Diamond bronco PL 000 23. 5/16×7/8 healed 24. Wide sliding plate 25. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #1 26. st croix forge regular plain 000 27. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #3 28. Diamond special 5 29. Kerckhaert SSP 10×22 #5 30. St. croix plain regular #3 31. SSP 8×18 #000 32. SN 8×20 #000 33. Kerckhaert SN 10×22 #3 34. Kerckhaert SSP extra 8×22 #0 35. Unmarked healed shoe 3/8×3/4 36. AB #6 37. Kerckhaert WH 10×28 #6 i also read that list you reposted from diesel crew. im not understanding what your saying here. are you saying that you already read the diesel crew list and understood the levels of difficulty, but started this thread anyways? yup, i was wondering if people had experience otherwise. i appreciate your feedback. if my tone seemed negative toward you it is not what i intended. every once in a while, i see something cool that i have never tried before and decide to give it a shot (with no real reference as to how hard it could be). i then get pissed off when i cannot do it. at that time i have to reel myself in and realize it could take me years to do something others do easily. thank you for chiming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopholes Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Something I've noticed is that the DC1 is easier than the DC2 (which is on the list) but also that the St Croix Polo 0 is significantly easier than the Polo 1. However, I have no idea why that is, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that's definitely the case, at least from my experience. I'd assume the bigger sizes would always be easier than the smaller sizes, because of more leverage, but it doesn't always work that way. I was able to power right through Polo 0 shoes without even being able to budge a Polo 1, and these were from several batches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 So my local Tractor Supply carries Diamond Classic shoes for a decent price. I have been inspired to try this by some great horseshoe bend videos posted here recently. Can anyone recommend the easiest size to start with for a beginner? All good advice on here. In my experiences, the DC1 used to kill me! I was stuck on that shoe for a long time. Two things helped me get past it and beyond: the Polo 1 and Hammering Horseshoes. I also messed around with some Polo 1 hinds, which were harder than the fronts. Hammering horseshoes helped tie everything I had been doing the months prior together. Like stated above, DC1s vary alot, so you may encounter some crazy ones, that are closer to Lite Plain #3 standards. Once I "knew" that the DC1 would bend, that is when I began to see real progress. HH helped initiate that mindset too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think if you combine that list with this one, you have a pretty good list of where everything falls (these are the current shoes that will get you in the top 20 on David Wigren's list). The hardest shoe I know of that was bent by human hands is a WH6 unclipped by WSM finalist Jason Bergmann. It's arguably right below or right above the AB6. The hardest I've ever bent is #14 (#34 in the above list) in singles (under cert conditions) and recently got close to #16 in doubles. Both Jason and David Wigren have certified on the SSP #4 in 1.25" single wraps/under 3 minutes. Horseshoes 1. St. croix Polo #1 2. Diamond Classic #1 3. St. croix Lite rim #3 4. St. croix Lite rim #1 5. St. croix Lite plain #3 / Kerckhaert SSP 8x22 #3** 6. Kerckhaert SSP 8x22 #2** 7. Kerckhaert SSP 8x20 #1** 8. Kerckhaert SSP 8x22 #1** 9. St. croix Regular Plain #000 10. Diamond Special #5 11. St. croix #5 XTRA / Kerckhaert SSP 10x22 #5** 12. St. croix Plain Regular #3 13. Kerckhaert SSP 8x18 #000** 14. Kerckhaert SSP Extra 8x22 #0** 15. St. Croix EZ #2 ** 16. Kerckhaert SSP 10x22 #4** 17. St. Croix EZ #4 ** 18. Kerckhaert SSP 10x22 Extra #3** 19. St. Croix EZ PLUS #3 ** 20. AB 1x3/8 Draft Keg #6** The current top 20 looks like this: 1) Jason Bergmann Kerckhaert SSP 10x22 #4 7-05-2012 1) David Wigren Kerckhaert SSP 10x22 #4 8-11-2012 3) Mike Rinderle Kerckhaert SSP Extra 8x22 #0 8-13-2012 4) Henrik Nyström Kerckhaert SSP 8x18 #000(No leg pad) 11-30-2011 5) Andy Thomas St. croix #5 XTRA 3-03-2012 6) Nick Rosendaul Diamond Special #5 11-26-2010 6) Carl Ansara Diamond Special #5 5-14-2011 8) Carl Donati Jr Kerckhaert SSP 8x20 #1 5-06-2012 9) Richard Santos St. croix Lite Plain #3(No leg pad) 9-22-2011 10) Martin Gaisser St. croix Lite Plain #3 9-15-2010 10) EJ Livesey St. croix Lite Plain #3 9-14-2011 10) David Mitti St. croix Lite Plain #3 8-05-2012 13) Richard Bean St. croix Lite Rim #1 3-16-2012 13) Chad Rickicki St. croix Lite Rim #1 6-16-2012 15) Adam Moyers St. croix Lite Rim #3 12-30-2011 15) Mike Krahling St. croix Lite rim #3 3-13-2012 17) Stew Rosendaul Diamond Classic #1 11-26-2010 18) Jonas Jonzen St. croix Polo #1 12-19-2010 18) Daniel Reinard St. croix Polo #1 8-26-2011 18) Dan Pace St. croix Polo #1 11-26-2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 DC1 DC0 DC2 and in that order. also, here is a list of horse shoe difficulty. Beginner 1. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #2 2. St. Croix Forge Ultralite #1 3. St. Croix Forge Polo #2 4. St. Croix Forge Polo #1 5. St. Croix Forge Polo #0 6. St. Croix Forge Polo #00 7. Diamond Classic 1 8. Diamond Classic 0 9. Diamond Classic 2 10. St. Croix Forge Lite Rim 0 Novice 11. Kerckhaert sx7 12. St croix Lite rim 2 13. Nordic Delux 2 14. St croix lite rim 3 15. Nordic Delux 3 16. St croix lite rim 1 17. Werkman 3 18. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #3 19. St croix Lite plain #3 Advanced 20. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #5 21. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #2 22. Diamond bronco PL 000 23. 5/16×7/8 healed 24. Wide sliding plate 25. Kerckhaert SSP 8×22 #1 26. st croix forge regular plain 000 27. Kerckhaert SN 8×25 #3 28. Diamond special 5 29. Kerckhaert SSP 10×22 #5 30. St. croix plain regular #3 31. SSP 8×18 #000 32. SN 8×20 #000 33. Kerckhaert SN 10×22 #3 34. Kerckhaert SSP extra 8×22 #0 35. Unmarked healed shoe 3/8×3/4 36. AB #6 37. Kerckhaert WH 10×28 #6 i also read that list you reposted from diesel crew. im not understanding what your saying here. are you saying that you already read the diesel crew list and understood the levels of difficulty, but started this thread anyways? yup, i was wondering if people had experience otherwise. i appreciate your feedback. if my tone seemed negative toward you it is not what i intended. every once in a while, i see something cool that i have never tried before and decide to give it a shot (with no real reference as to how hard it could be). i then get pissed off when i cannot do it. at that time i have to reel myself in and realize it could take me years to do something others do easily. thank you for chiming in. allgood, i aint trippin. and very cool to see more folks interested in bending horse shoes! and yes, so far, prolly over 60% of shoes ive tried, have pissed me off as well, haha. if you start with the SCF ultralites, it will not take years man. once you bend a few and get a feel for it, you'll be running through bigger shoes in no time. prolly a good/quick way to start, and learn solid technique, is study some of the horse shoe bends out there on youtube. (here is a good channel to check out, http://www.youtube.c...rinderle/videos) along with that, always film yourself bending so you can go back and watch for what may need correcting. other than a quick rundown from some bending freaks of nature down here, this is exactly what i did. also, here are a couple more badass shoe benders to check out: http://www.youtube.c...PalleNailBender http://www.youtube.com/user/TJCombo67 thx, like bar stock bending, i am gonna have to start very small till i get my groove. now i am gonna have to hunt down some of those st. croix shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 ken-davis.com is a good online source for the shoes. Also, see if you can find a farrier supplier near you. That's where I get all my shoes from. Much cheaper without paying shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 If you are looking for technical instruction, you won't find a better resource that Mike's and my video, Hammering Horseshoes. http://www.thegripauthority.com/horseshoe-bending-dvd.htm The feedback on this video has been amazing. No sense in going through the frustration of trial-and-error technique work, when we (Mike) spells it all out for you on HH. Jedd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopholes Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 If you are looking for technical instruction, you won't find a better resource that Mike's and my video, Hammering Horseshoes. http://www.thegripauthority.com/horseshoe-bending-dvd.htm The feedback on this video has been amazing. No sense in going through the frustration of trial-and-error technique work, when we (Mike) spells it all out for you on HH. Jedd YES. An excellent and informative resource. I definitely recommend it. I fished around with watching YouTube videos for months to no avail, but got Jedd's DVD and powered right through a horseshoe in the first week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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