G-Man Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYcSov2W-Oc&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 That's some massive tricep power. In my own personal experience, although I'm about 1/20th as strong as Razor, the bench dips hit the triceps MUCH more than regular bodyweight dips, or weighed dips on parallel bars. I believe it's because of the torso angle... the hips are usually behind the shoulders in regular dips, but in bench dips they're in front of the shoulders and I felt I used much less pectorals on those bench dips. 720#.... just wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I would have ostrich-style backwards knees if I tried that. Before they even took out the box. Seems unnecessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 ^This. My legs would snap like matchsticks if I tried that nonsense! Razor turned in another badass World's performance getting 2nd this year and beating Ruslan in one of the most surprising moments of the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IROC-Z Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Like others have already said, I would have some major concerns about knee hyperextension. Very impressive display of triceps strength, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCottle Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Pretty crazy. He just uploaded a video of a chinup plus 130 pounds I wouldve expected way more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Razor is an EXTREMELY POWERFUL arm wrestler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autolupus Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded I'd be interested to see biggest ring dips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I too would have expected more than a 130# SINGLE in a weighed chin-up from a guy as powerful on the table as Razor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Why not just use a good dip machine and load THAT up. Seems very dangerous on all respects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I too would have expected more than a 130# SINGLE in a weighed chin-up from a guy as powerful on the table as Razor. This was my initial reaction too but that's the strictest weighted pull-up I've seen over 100#. Also, it's my understanding that Brzenk can't do a OAP so while a lot of AW are good at pull-ups, it doesn't necessarily reflect AW ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 jad: you're right, I've actually given it some thought in the past, when one day I concluded that horizontall pulling (ie barbell or DB rows) doesn't mean you've vertical pulling strength (weighed chins). Maybe AW'ers should be training more horizontal pulling anyways, since that more closely resembles the upper arm possition when AW'ing. At no point are they even close to having their arms overhead and pulling from there. Just an opinion though. Razor's chin-up was great, I just expected more weight for a 1RM from such a beast. Maybe he doesn't train them that often, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 jad: you're right, I've actually given it some thought in the past, when one day I concluded that horizontall pulling (ie barbell or DB rows) doesn't mean you've vertical pulling strength (weighed chins). Maybe AW'ers should be training more horizontal pulling anyways, since that more closely resembles the upper arm possition when AW'ing. At no point are they even close to having their arms overhead and pulling from there. Just an opinion though. Razor's chin-up was great, I just expected more weight for a 1RM from such a beast. Maybe he doesn't train them that often, who knows. I've found most gym stuff, even the AW "favorites" you hear about (hammer curls, chins, etc..) to have very little transfer to pulling. Grip training seems to be the exception but again if you specifically work your hand/wrist at practice/on the table, all the grip stuff in the world won't simulate that. IMO any curling or pulling movements need to be done like Devon does with the locked arm moving through a ROM and even performed like that they are VERY distant second to pulling. A good prehab program for rotator cuffs and straight arm pressdowns to fix the weakspot I felt in my lat in a hook, have been the two most useful gym movements for me. Neither is exciting nor do they make good videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Straight arm pressdowns? Interesting! This immediately made me think of gymnasts and AW. They are of course very strong, specially in their weight class, and would make for decent AW'ers in some cases. I think the Front Lever possition mimics a straight arm pressdown and you do most of the work with your humerous bone close to where it would be in an AW match. Gymnasts find this possition a piece of cake of course. In case you don't know what it is see this picture: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Wep6AyDEn5KdvM:http://gymnasticscoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/RingTraining-lever.jpg&t=1 One question, as I have never done those pulldowns: where is the toughest part of the ROM? Is it when the handle is overhead, or is getting it to touch your body the hardest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I do them on a cable stack and start at chest/shoulder level or with a band starting at chest/shoulder level. For me, I usually fail as I get closer to the body but I don't know if that's due to fatigue or if it's actually harder (stack, obviously the band gets harder the closer you get). I feel in more in my elbow through the first half and lat and subscap for the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 That position looks like it would require killer ab and low back strength with the pressdown being more of an afterthought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 That position looks like it would require killer ab and low back strength with the pressdown being more of an afterthought. It does!! Specially the abs. But with weak lats the angle between the torso and the arm would open up! But yeah, to elite guys this is nothing, and they crank out a couple of "pull ups" in this possition (more like horizontal body row). I think you'll like the video I'm about to link in the Strentgh & Power section, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico300zx Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Not impressed, I bet i could do that, without getting hurt, i just dont understand what good it would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightertrainer Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Steve dipped about 10-12" down. He should have used the 2 rebook steps set high enough for him (for safety) instead of a bench. If any thing goes wrong he would be so close to the ground already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN PRAYDIS Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 too much showboating to me if his bone would of snapped that would make lifting look bad again or still .like you already heard when you were younger from your parents you gonna get hurt its gonna stunt your growth im with rico300zx its like a party trick no one can duplicate the exact lift or would want too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico300zx Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Thanks Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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