meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 In light of the Blob's popularity, I know most everyone likes wide pinching. However, what do you think about narrow pinch lifts? For example, has any experienced benefits of lifting with a 1'' or 1/2'' block? Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
Grippster Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 I think narrow pinching is harder. The weight I set up requires a narrow pinch and it's just so hard to get a good grip on a thin flat surface. With a blob or something fat like that it always felt like I could get a better hold on it. Quote
nickr104 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Work all kinds of pinch and you will be better for it. Quote Nick RosendaulI am a Upser"I slept with John Eaton and lived to tell about it!"
meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 I think narrow pinching is harder. The weight I set up requires a narrow pinch and it's just so hard to get a good grip on a thin flat surface. With a blob or something fat like that it always felt like I could get a better hold on it. Tell me about it! I just tried pinching with a 1/2'' plasitc block and I could only lift 17.5 lbs. + loading pin. Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
luuc Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) When it gets heavy, my joints start feeling strange because of the pressure when fully extended. Herefor I prefere thick pinch blocks. Edited March 10, 2009 by luuc Quote The art of barehanded bending
James Retarides Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Strangely, I have an easier time narrow pinching. It could be because ligament damage in my thumb, but I would love to see how I would compare to some of the strong-gripped freaks out there. Quote
climber511 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Some numbers from Gripmas Carol medleys and events from the past 1/4" Plate Pinch - one hand - 55# 1/4" Key Pinch - one hand - 55# 3/8" Plate Pinch - two hands - 130# 1" Euro Pinch - two hands 170# Be careful working thin pinch - your fingers are in a somewhat bad position and the tendons etc can get pretty sore. 1 Quote When people used to ask him how it was he became so incredibly strong, it was always the same, "strengthen your mind, the rest will follow". The Mighty Atom Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Being prepared for any random task is not the same thing as preparing randomly for any task. Greg Everett
pawel r Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing Quote
meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing This is why I've started narrow pinching. However, I'm concerned that there is little training effect since I can only lift 20 to 25 lbs. Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing Pawel, how did you train with narrow pinch to help you tear cards? Did you focus on timed holds, max lifts, high volume, frequency. . . ? Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
Blackdog Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing Pawel, how did you train with narrow pinch to help you tear cards? Did you focus on timed holds, max lifts, high volume, frequency. . . ? Good question. Did you hold the weight in the card tearing position? Without the thumb? Quote Done: - Close #2 COC - Hold two 45 Hamptons with Hub Grip to full extension, simultaneously both sides - Hub grip 45 Hampton with 10 extra pounds ( 4 - 2 1/2s) on each hand to full extension -Hub grip 60# -Pinch grip two 25s on each hand to full extension Goals: -Get thumb pad a lot bigger -Close #2.5 COC -Close #3 COC -Wrist Wrench #100 -FBBC 2.5 Crusher #170 -pinch two 35s one hand to full extension Me: -Height: 5' 10" -Weight: 184 lbs -BP 102/60 -Pulse 60 -Hand size: 7 7/8"
meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing Pawel, how did you train with narrow pinch to help you tear cards? Did you focus on timed holds, max lifts, high volume, frequency. . . ? Good question. Did you hold the weight in the card tearing position? Without the thumb? Bump. And did you lift the block straight up or did you try holding it at an angle or pressing it to simulate the torque of card tearing? Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
Guest indi Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 also curious for some answers from pawel ive got a thin pinch block, and an even thinner one (like..1cm thickness) but ive never really used them. Quote
Bob Lipinski Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Narrow pinch works the fingers really good, sort of like a plate curl. It was an event at one of the Michigan grip contests, 3/4 inch I think. Jedd did 190ish. Quote US Handstrength
jad Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Narrow pinching made my blobs the strongest they've ever been. My fingers just felt like they were glued on. Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
lifesnotfair Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Narrow pinching made my blobs the strongest they've ever been. My fingers just felt like they were glued on. Now that sounds weird! Josh how much weight have you added to the blob? Quote
Grippster Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Narrow pinch works the fingers really good, sort of like a plate curl. It was an event at one of the Michigan grip contests, 3/4 inch I think. Jedd did 190ish. I got a big pump just from doing some easy lifts, but you really have to be careful with pinch especially narrow for me because of the angle your fingers are on. Quote
twig Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Work all kinds of pinch and you will be better for it. Train wide-ER pinch for wide pinch, and narrow-ER for narrow pinch and ou won't go far wrong. Quote Be nice until it's time to not be nice-Patrick Swayze, Dalton, Raodhose. R.I.P.
climber511 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 If you take the time to study the results from Isometric training from the past - you will find that isometric work strengthens you in a fairly narrow range on both sides of the position worked. Therefore - as pinch work for grip is almost always isometric in nature - all widths should be trained. 2 Quote When people used to ask him how it was he became so incredibly strong, it was always the same, "strengthen your mind, the rest will follow". The Mighty Atom Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Being prepared for any random task is not the same thing as preparing randomly for any task. Greg Everett
AP Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 I like narrow pinch and its cheap to train with my 3/4" x 5" wood panel with an eye bolt screwed unevenly into it. Quote Pastrami on Wry
meelhama Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 The consensus seems to be: 1) Can’t go wrong working all widths. 2) Watch out for narrow pinch injuries to your fingers. The second point is really valuable. I think most gripsters are aware of injuries associated with wide objects. John Brookfield even warns about this in his book. However, not as many are aware that narrow pinch can strain your fingers. Quote 7.5L 8.5W hand TNS#2 (Done: 11.11.08) BBSM(Done: 12.26.08) BBGM (Done: 3.9.09) #3 tear deck (Done 2.14.10) RT 175lbs RT 200lbs Lift Inch
pawel r Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 narrow pinch - great helped me for cards tearing Pawel, how did you train with narrow pinch to help you tear cards? Did you focus on timed holds, max lifts, high volume, frequency. . . ? Good question. Did you hold the weight in the card tearing position? Without the thumb? Bump. And did you lift the block straight up or did you try holding it at an angle or pressing it to simulate the torque of card tearing? I kept so: http://www.gripboard.com/uploads/120800881...7_623_14266.jpg with 20 kg on timed holds Quote
jad Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 If you take the time to study the results from Isometric training from the past - you will find that isometric work strengthens you in a fairly narrow range on both sides of the position worked. Therefore - as pinch work for grip is almost always isometric in nature - all widths should be trained. Chris what are some good/reputable sources to learn more about isometrics? I'm specifically interested in it for grippers and strengthening my lock for AW. Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
climber511 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) If you take the time to study the results from Isometric training from the past - you will find that isometric work strengthens you in a fairly narrow range on both sides of the position worked. Therefore - as pinch work for grip is almost always isometric in nature - all widths should be trained. Chris what are some good/reputable sources to learn more about isometrics? I'm specifically interested in it for grippers and strengthening my lock for AW. Josh - start with SuperTraining - page 222. There is also some stuff done out of the York boys way back when as well. I'll find some stuff for you if you give me a little time. The thing that made me start studying it is the fact that most grip stuff is isometric (without movement at least) in nature. I'm thinking eccentric overloads at the moment as I start my training for Chads contest - gonna take some thought on how to implement it - we'll see. And yes I do read too much Edited March 11, 2009 by climber511 Quote When people used to ask him how it was he became so incredibly strong, it was always the same, "strengthen your mind, the rest will follow". The Mighty Atom Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Being prepared for any random task is not the same thing as preparing randomly for any task. Greg Everett
jad Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 If you take the time to study the results from Isometric training from the past - you will find that isometric work strengthens you in a fairly narrow range on both sides of the position worked. Therefore - as pinch work for grip is almost always isometric in nature - all widths should be trained. Chris what are some good/reputable sources to learn more about isometrics? I'm specifically interested in it for grippers and strengthening my lock for AW. Josh - start with SuperTraining - page 222. There is also some stuff done out of the York boys way back when as well. I'll find some stuff for you if you give me a little time. The thing that made me start studying it is the fact that most grip stuff is isometric (without movement at least) in nature. I'm thinking eccentric overloads at the moment as I start my training for Chads contest - gonna take some thought on how to implement it - we'll see. And yes I do read too much Does it matter which edition? The one on Elite is about 110 bucks cheaper than the one on Amazon and I don't see the second author listed on the one on the Elite site. Is that the right edition? Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO
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