Grippster Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Which do you think is better, using explosive power to try and force heavy grippers shut, or closing them in a more slow and controlled manner. I always believed the explosive way was better, because you tear more tissue that way and therefore you build quicker. How do you guys train in this respect? I find this method very effective against the BC500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I think what happens AFTER the gripper is forced shut is the more important issue on negatives. In general, I think people use too heavy of a gripper for negatives. I don't know anything about using explosive power to force a gripper shut, but I'm not sure what kind of muscle you'd be building. Intensity is important, but I think it's also important to be in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman1800 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 In general, I think people use too heavy of a gripper for negatives. why? do you feel being able to hold it a bit longer helps build more strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlstrass Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 In general, I think people use too heavy of a gripper for negatives. why? do you feel being able to hold it a bit longer helps build more strength? Personally I want a gripper I can hold within 1/8" of being shut. As for "explosive" training, not worth the risk IMO. Slow steady reps just like when I lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 In general, I think people use too heavy of a gripper for negatives. why? do you feel being able to hold it a bit longer helps build more strength? For me, it's not an issue of holding it longer. I feel the best benefit is when you are getting an overload AND working the range were the gripper is nearly closed or, in the case of a filed gripper, ideally past the point where the gripper would be closed. If you force a heavy gripper shut and it pops open to 1/4", you're not really getting an overload that works your crush in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 There's really not much point in trying to be explosive when forcing the gripper closed for negative. When forcing the gripper closed, do it in controlled fashion, but not purposefully slow either so that you are not wasting time and energy to that part. Matt is right about the negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman1800 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank9 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 In general, I think people use too heavy of a gripper for negatives. why? do you feel being able to hold it a bit longer helps build more strength? Personally I want a gripper I can hold within 1/8" of being shut. As for "explosive" training, not worth the risk IMO. Slow steady reps just like when I lift. Here here! Yes, I find the best way to stress your hand when a few millimetres away from your target gripper is to use same gripper with the dogleg away from the palm, give it all you got, force it closed and hold in shut for 5. Gives me a much more intense "pain" than using a tougher gripper and struggling with it through the sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 IMHO, if you're training with a gripper you can close explosively, you're training with too easy of a gripper. I think you should close them slowly, but not just for the sake of it; you should use a gripper hard enough that even while giving it 100%, it's still closing slowly. Now, when I lift, I always explode on the positive, and then drag the negative for all it's worth...but that's a discussion for another forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_Arildsson Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 IMHO, if you're training with a gripper you can close explosively, you're training with too easy of a gripper. I think you should close them slowly, but not just for the sake of it; you should use a gripper hard enough that even while giving it 100%, it's still closing slowly.Now, when I lift, I always explode on the positive, and then drag the negative for all it's worth...but that's a discussion for another forum What's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I try to close them as fast and explosive as I can but I suck at grippers so don't listen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 IMHO, if you're training with a gripper you can close explosively, you're training with too easy of a gripper. I think you should close them slowly, but not just for the sake of it; you should use a gripper hard enough that even while giving it 100%, it's still closing slowly.Now, when I lift, I always explode on the positive, and then drag the negative for all it's worth...but that's a discussion for another forum Situation is different as the original question was about the negs. Your advice is very true if we are talking about regular closes, they should always be done as fast as possible regardless of the resistance for the best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Situation is different as the original question was about the negs. Your advice is very true if we are talking about regular closes, they should always be done as fast as possible regardless of the resistance for the best results. Hmmmm? I think the original question was about regular closes...he didn't say anything about negs: Which do you think is better, using explosive power to try and force heavy grippers shut, or closing them in a more slow and controlled manner. I always believed the explosive way was better, because you tear more tissue that way and therefore you build quicker. How do you guys train in this respect? I find this method very effective against the BC500. Edited October 8, 2008 by Magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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