Steels Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 How hard was Holle's #4? Could he close any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) It is mentioned in the book about CoC-grippers, how he was tested on a couple of different #4's. I don't know the spesifics though. But a question I'd much rather ask is what's the calibrated poundage on any of the #4's that have been closed. My point beeing to know what to shoot for in training, not to bash anyone's accomplishments. If I get to the point of closing a #4, any #4, I will come out and mention the specs on that gripper including the RGC-measured poundage. Edited May 9, 2008 by Teemu I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is mentioned in the book about CoC-grippers, how he was tested on a couple of different #4's. I don't know the spesifics though.But a question I'd much rather ask is what's the calibrated poundage on any of the #4's that have been closed. My point beeing to know what to shoot for in training, not to bash anyone's accomplishments. If I get to the point of closing a #4, any #4, I will come out and mention the specs on that gripper including the RGC-measured poundage. Most of the 4's that have been shut have not been calibrated and most of those that shut them do not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 As all the grippers vary, I'd sure like to know the spesifics on the hardest grippers that have been closed. For me, it's not about whose a "real deal" or any of that kind of negativity. I personally think that not all #4's can be closed by anyone at the moment and like to know what's the high mark on standard spread grippers that has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big nasty Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Just putting my to cent's in but is'nt the change in the rule's having to credit card set the gripper set back more cert's? I can't speak to how the #4's where closed up till now maybe I am wrong. I know in my limited experience no set or ccs up's the diffculty quit a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steels Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 In light of the above that means very little. If you had measurements from them all then the statement could be made. We do not and so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Just putting my to cent's in but is'nt the change in the rule's having to credit card set the gripper set back more cert's? I can't speak to how the #4's where closed up till now maybe I am wrong. I know in my limited experience no set or ccs up's the diffculty quit a bit. Yes, the CCS rule more than the other change that requires you to close a gripper taken straight out of the package. Of these two rule changes, CCS is certainly a bigger factor, making a close of any #4 a very tough feat. Old rule about the set was that the last inch of the close had to be clearly visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! I totally agree with Mobster's reply on this. The "hardest #4 out there" beeing a very subjective matter, Gazza's #4 can still be a very tough gripper, or not, we can't know. Speculations like this presented as facts are one reason I like the idea of calibration. Edited May 9, 2008 by Teemu I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steels Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! I totally agree with Mobster's reply on this. The "hardest #4 out there" beeing a very subjective matter, Gazza's #4 can still be a very tough gripper, or not, we can't know. Speculations like this presented as facts are one reason I like the idea of calibration. I have just sent him an email about Gazza's #4, and this is his reply: " Look! Dude that thing barely felt any harder then my good stiff #3.5! Based on these facts, Holle was probably a decent #3.5 close - THAT IS IT." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! I totally agree with Mobster's reply on this. The "hardest #4 out there" beeing a very subjective matter, Gazza's #4 can still be a very tough gripper, or not, we can't know. Speculations like this presented as facts are one reason I like the idea of calibration. I have just sent him an email about Gazza's #4, and this is his reply: " Look! Dude that thing barely felt any harder then my good stiff #3.5! Based on these facts, Holle was probably a decent #3.5 close - THAT IS IT." That proves what? Especially if you can't completely close either, those estimates might go awfully wrong. With these new grippers IronMind has introduced, there's overlapping. The hardest #3.5 I have closed was 190 lbs on the RGC. Similar poundage to #4 used in a US comp and closed there by 3 guys. There's no way knowing if there are even harder #3.5's than that. Compare the hardest #3.5's with monster spread to slightly below average #4 with regular spread and you get a wrong idea how easy that #4 might be.Based on a great deal of variation to both ways on all grippers, I would be very careful stating that kind of things. In any case trying to bring down other guy is not making anyone stronger. Edited May 9, 2008 by Teemu I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinia Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 a easy #4 is still an extremely hard gripper . :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tspinillo Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! Did he just TRY it or did he CLOSE it also? Edited May 9, 2008 by tspinillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have just sent him an email about Gazza's #4, and this is his reply: " Look! Dude that thing barely felt any harder then my good stiff #3.5! Based on these facts, Holle was probably a decent #3.5 close - THAT IS IT." I guess he was just being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! I totally agree with Mobster's reply on this. The "hardest #4 out there" beeing a very subjective matter, Gazza's #4 can still be a very tough gripper, or not, we can't know. Speculations like this presented as facts are one reason I like the idea of calibration. I have just sent him an email about Gazza's #4, and this is his reply: " Look! Dude that thing barely felt any harder then my good stiff #3.5! Based on these facts, Holle was probably a decent #3.5 close - THAT IS IT." This is a careless extension. Your friend has never touched Holle's gripper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It is not important to know how hard is his #4. Gazza went to see them and he closed Gazza's #4 for 2 reps (mini reps). He also got the HG500 to about 3mm. Don't worry, they are the real deal. I am sure they will welcome you if you visited them. I know a man who has also tried Gazza's #4, and he mentioned it as not being the hardest #4 out there! I totally agree with Mobster's reply on this. The "hardest #4 out there" beeing a very subjective matter, Gazza's #4 can still be a very tough gripper, or not, we can't know. Speculations like this presented as facts are one reason I like the idea of calibration. I have just sent him an email about Gazza's #4, and this is his reply: " Look! Dude that thing barely felt any harder then my good stiff #3.5! Based on these facts, Holle was probably a decent #3.5 close - THAT IS IT." Who made the above statement and if its so easy im shure quite a few people could credit card set it which i doubt its here if you wanna come around and take the challenge. Ive never been a gripper guy never will be so i dont know how it compares to other 4s let alone any other hard gripper over a 4 its a single stamped one with a 3inch spread. Oh and by the way Nathan Hole and craig for that matter are far more than a decent 3.5 closer how about inch lifters various pinch feats and elite benders so dont go rubbishing those lads just because they dont come on here its so easy to piss on others accomplishments when there not here to defend themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 To be fair they never CCS anything either. But Gazza is correct let's not make up or assume too much about those of who we know next to nothing. Oh, and to make it clear, I have no idea to whom Steels is referring to. I NEVER got any email and the post does seem to show it was me he replied to. Who was supposed to have actually said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I believe Nathan pulled 125KG on a dyno, that's enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ah - the Holles - the mystery men! I'd love to visit them, I believe the atmosphere of competition that normally exists between brothers would provide a brutally competitive and positive training setup. They seem to just stay at home and get strong and not care what we think of them - not a bad idea it seems at times. I love training alone but I do think I would be considerably stronger with a good training partner(s) to push me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 What happened to the days of a #4 being a #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 What happened to the days of a goddamn #4 being a goddamn #4. "benchmarked" GR8 springs, ever changing cert rules, and calibrators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar4883 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 How about not caring about Holles #4 compared to anyone elses or other worthless junk. It had to be difficult no matter what. It seems that the guys who are at the top of the pyramid don't care they are probably training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 How about not caring about Holles #4 compared to anyone elses or other worthless junk. It had to be difficult no matter what. It seems that the guys who are at the top of the pyramid don't care they are probably training. Exactly as per my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) EDITED: It might help were I to read the thread before replying.... Edited May 9, 2008 by The Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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