dyoder16 Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Lately I've gotten a little interested in bending so for the last few months I've been working grip on thin things, as per strongman's advise the rope and the buckett. I was wondering what is the easiest thing to start with that I could get at a place like Lowes? Eventually I'd like to get a Bag O' Nails, but right now I'm saving for the Gripanator and that's first on the list. Also are there any good books on stunt type grip feats like bending and tearing phone books and the like? Thanx. dyoder16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apdwler Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 There is a free strongman stunts book at the link below. I think there is also another one somewhere on there site. There server is slow, so be patient, it is FREE afterall... http://sandow.crosswinds.net/Competi....tro.htm I know you can get steel rods at lows. I think someone else well be more help than me in sizes etc. I haven't done much bending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 3/16" and 1/4" HRS would be the place to start. 6"x3/16"HRS ~Ironmind white, 7"x1/4" ~IM Yellow. Try to do progressions of shorter steel by cutting off 1/4" or 1/8" at a time. Remember to protect your hands by wrapping the nail in a cloth. Study Strongman's webpage for technique. I think I saw some stock marked CRS at Lowe's that looked suspiciously like HRS. Buy which ever they have and do progressively shorter bends. Which style are you using? I favor the "spike bending" technique. As far as reading material goes, "The Black log" and old posts here are the best sources. The world's premier steel bender (John Brookfield) did not see fit to include any information on steel bending in "The Mastery of Hand Strength". I think he would prefer that the rest of us left the Ironmind Red alone ! Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryduty Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 dyoder16, you might want to check out the book "MUSCLEBLASTING! Brief and Brutal Shock Training" by Robert Kennedy & Don Ross ISBN 0-8069-6758-7 Chapter 8 is titled "Feats of Strength - Secrets of the Strongmen". I picked up a used copy off Amazon.com for only $5. Train smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoder16 Posted August 31, 2002 Author Share Posted August 31, 2002 Strongman, I remember reading a post of yours where you and your training partner were working on a chart for bending strengths of certain materials. I was wndering if you finished it. Thanx for the book tip. I'll check it out on Amazon. dyoder16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 dyoder, Check out Bill Hinbern's site if your interested in books. Get a free catalog sent to you if you can; good stuff there. I have ordered my fair share of books from him, and they are great reading material and for reference. http://www.superstrengthbooks.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoder16 Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 Well I went to Lowes. Talk about confusion. Does anybody know what section or department to find the rolled stock? I asked two different salespeople and both did the same thing. They didn't know what I was talking about and then when I explained what I was looking for both of them took me over to masonry and showed me 1/2" rebar. Talking to them was talking to a brick wall. dyoder16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Canthar Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Look in the Hardware section same place you would find nails. If you need to ask again ask about weld steel they should point you in the right direction. I don't remember the number offhand though. Nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryduty Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 dyoder16, I have just posted the chart of Yield Strengths on my web site (http://home.insight.rr.com/strongman/) - just click on the "Bending Steel" button to get to the chart. BTW, I shifted the animated bending demos to separate pages to speed up the loading of my Bending Steel page. Train smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoder16 Posted September 5, 2002 Author Share Posted September 5, 2002 Strongman, That chart is unbelievable!! How long did it take you? I think that is just the thing that a lot of us are looking for. I'm starting with the aluminum gutter spikes for a while. Thanx a lot!! dyoder16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 Great chart Terry! Now where can I buy some of that wimpy 5/16" steel rod that is easier to bend then 3/8" Al ? Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryduty Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Thanks, I'm glad you liked the chart! But, Tom Black deserves all the credit for initiating the idea of doing the testing, though! (BabyGrip, my training partner, deserves a little credit for doing the actual testing, I suppose.) Robert, try Lowe's Hardware's 8" x 5/16" carriage bolts - this is 5/16" steel that's easier than 3/8" Aluminum. Train smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Ah, but is a 5/16" carriage bolt really 5/16"? I don't believe so, unless it's unthreaded where you bend it. Don't forget thread depth. Great chart by the way! Nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Thanks Strongman for giving me credit for the initial idea. I'm glad that our numbers are consistent. Even the placement of the Ironmind Red at 383 seems close to my readings. The red was hard for me to test because I couldn't fit all the weight on the loading pin, and I always wondered if my readings were inaccurate. You really should add a key to the chart about the exact method used as well as how far each bar bent (Although it may be too late for that because the tests have already been done). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryduty Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Terminator, excellent point! For weaker 5/16" steel, I recommend getting the Grade 2 Carriage (or Machine) bolts that, like you suggest, are only threaded at the very end and have otherwise solid shanks. Tom, excellent idea! I will add a key to the chart of the exact method used. I may also throw a pic of a test in progress up on my site to provide additional clarity. I will be adding some additional info to the chart, soon, but wanted to (at least) put something up for now - since it had been a while since I first promised such a chart. I'm very pleased that people like the chart and I will endeavor to keep it updated as additional bolts, nails, and rods are enountered along my bending journey. Train smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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