Sultan_of_Spin Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I was wondering if this was still accurate. I mean, grippers change, and vary over time, and the post below is from 2006... And also, do you think it is accurate? Thanks IM Guide 60 lbsRB70 IM Sport 80 lbs HG100 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs HG150 .225 COC T 100 lbs RB130N RB100 RB160N RB130 RB180N .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs .235 COC #1 140 lbs HG200 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs PDA243 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs GM1 cert gripper RB210N HG250 RB160 .260 BB Master 195 lbs .260 COC #2 195 lbs RB180 RB240N PDA262 RB260N .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs HG300 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs GM2 cert Gripper RB210 HG400 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs .281 COC #3 280 lbs .277 RB240 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs GM3 cert gripper RB300N HG350 .277 RB260 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs .295 BB Elite 320 lbs .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs RB330N .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs .295 RB300 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs RB330 .312 COC #4 365 lbs .353 HG500 RB365 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs .345 BB World Class 470 lbs .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs .362 BB Super Galaxy .375 BB Grand Galaxy RBWT This may need some adjusting. Maybe Greg Amidon could supply some input, as he is calibrating some grippers, by measuring the poundages at the end of the handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg_uk Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) grippers vary, i would take it with a pinch of salt, for instance, my BB Master is maybe a tad easier than my 1.5, and my rb160 is a little harder than my 2 its still useful though, when working out what grippers to get Edited September 1, 2007 by egg_uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autolupus Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Grippers DO vary but are not really time dependent, a #3 will always be a #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifesnotfair Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I think I'm one of the very few guys with a "hard BBM", because everyone says they're easier than #2's, but mine isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetAGrip87 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 LNF, looks like we both have a hard BBM. It is harder than my #2 and filed #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Wow, mine's about a 1.8 you guys must have gotten a bad batch of springs or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_of_Spin Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 There seems to be a lot of variance in the BBM...Is that the case with all of the beef builder grippers? (I don't own any) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule92 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 There seems to be a lot of variance in the BBM...Is that the case with all of the beef builder grippers? (I don't own any) I don't know, I've heard they don't vary too much but I can't test since I only have 1 M, SM, and GM. My M is a 1.8, my Sm is a 2.3ish, and my GM is easier than my #3 but I haven't used it enough to know exactly where it lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoC#3 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 well i know grippers vary but this is what i think is wrong on the list (not based on my grippers only, pretty much all grippers i have played with/closed) The RB260 is not harder than a new gr8 spring #3. The average older #3 is slightly harder than the average RB260 IMO. Bear in mind RBs vary a fair bit though. The MM1 is easier than most #3s i have closed (i have closed 11 no #3s and only 2 are easier). The RB300 and the RB330N are easier than the 3.5 I also think the HG500 is harder than the RB365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdfk20 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I still use my BBM every now and again for warm-up, its a nice gripper around a 1.9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Tetting has made his newer grippers harder. An elite now is definitely much, much harder than a #3 on average. And yes, grippers vary too much for some of the close calls to be on target. Hell, I have an HG300 that is just as hard as many #3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubgeezer Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 The RB300 and the RB330N are easier than the 3.5 I only know the 3.5 I have, and the RB300 I have. I think the 3.5 I have is slightly more difficult than the RB300. Now, a question for anyone in the know...what do people rate the MM4 at? 3.6ish? 3.65? 3.7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidenfan Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 The 330N I have is easier than the 3.5 I have. My new #3 feels close to the 3.5 also, only because its damn near a 3 1/4" spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerHouse Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 My GM is a good bit harder then both my #3's. Anything above that is to hard for me to even tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 My H300 is harder than my HG350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdfk20 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I think the new THOR BB Elite are harder than the #3.5, infact on that rankings list i would swap the positions of the RB330N and the BBelite with each other, then that list will be more accurate in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGoodfellow Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I can't comment on any of the RB grippers, but I have a STUPIDLY HARD #3. I haven't been able to close it yet, but I've closed other #3's. I keep it as a training tool, and a motivator. When I can mash that thing shut, I'll he a happy camper. Goody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I think the new THOR BB Elite are harder than the #3.5. I'd say that they are too close in strength to really make a conclusion, which is harder. Spread on each #3.5 is a lot wider than it is on the new Elites. On average, those new Elites have calibrated to be harder than #3,5's here in Finland, but RGC calibration doesn't tell anything about the spread's impact on the actual difficulty. But, if you have a #3.5 that calibrates as a 3,50 and a BBE which calibrates the same, it is the #3.5 which is harder to close because of the wider spread. A list based on the RGC calibration results would be much more accurate in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfeemiman Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think the new THOR BB Elite are harder than the #3.5. I'd say that they are too close in strength to really make a conclusion, which is harder. Spread on each #3.5 is a lot wider than it is on the new Elites. On average, those new Elites have calibrated to be harder than #3,5's here in Finland, but RGC calibration doesn't tell anything about the spread's impact on the actual difficulty. But, if you have a #3.5 that calibrates as a 3,50 and a BBE which calibrates the same, it is the #3.5 which is harder to close because of the wider spread. A list based on the RGC calibration results would be much more accurate in my opinion. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I think the new THOR BB Elite are harder than the #3.5. I'd say that they are too close in strength to really make a conclusion, which is harder. Spread on each #3.5 is a lot wider than it is on the new Elites. On average, those new Elites have calibrated to be harder than #3,5's here in Finland, but RGC calibration doesn't tell anything about the spread's impact on the actual difficulty. But, if you have a #3.5 that calibrates as a 3,50 and a BBE which calibrates the same, it is the #3.5 which is harder to close because of the wider spread. A list based on the RGC calibration results would be much more accurate in my opinion. Agreed. Well start doing it. There are results out there already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bonzi Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) I think the new THOR BB Elite are harder than the #3.5. I'd say that they are too close in strength to really make a conclusion, which is harder. Spread on each #3.5 is a lot wider than it is on the new Elites. On average, those new Elites have calibrated to be harder than #3,5's here in Finland, but RGC calibration doesn't tell anything about the spread's impact on the actual difficulty. But, if you have a #3.5 that calibrates as a 3,50 and a BBE which calibrates the same, it is the #3.5 which is harder to close because of the wider spread. A list based on the RGC calibration results would be much more accurate in my opinion. Agreed. Well start doing it. There are results out there already. After all the "my ##.# is stronger than my RB ### or weaker than my BB/HG ##" posts, your list still comes out about right. Thanks for the time you took to compile it. Don't get me wrong. All the comparisons are a GOOD thing, just that the list seems to hold up pretty well, all told. Edited November 8, 2007 by Bonzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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