Guest 103-1023791186 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 HI there, What do some of you think would be a reasonable goal to shoot for,takeing into account that i am not a400lb monster like mr Henry.IF i weighed 200lbs and could put it over head, would that make me pound for pound,stronger at that lift than mr Henry.What have some ofthe gripboard members done on this peticular lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Maybe multiplying the weight of the Inch replica by your weight and dividing it by Henrys weight 172 x 200 divided by 400 = 86 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 I've done 100-pounds in basically the same manner as Henry with PDA's Inch Handle. I was probably 190 at the time. I think OldGuy's formula would provide a good estimate, but I'm not sure if Mark Henry still wieghs that much now, he seems leaner than he used to be when it was mentioned at the Olympic's that he weighted 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Mark Henry tends to get down to about 360 then quickly bounces back up to 400. My crude formula puts me at 116 lbs. I might just try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoder16 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 He sure looked leaner on WWF. I was guessing more along the lines of 350-365lbs. I thought he looked good compared to his first stint on wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Joe Roark probably knows how much Henry weighs to the ounce currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 103-1023791186 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 HI there, Just had a go with the pda Inch bar,45kilos right arm,good clean,no assistance with other hand,or touch of the body,more of ajerk the a press.left arm,same clean as the right,could not lock out the press.Bodyweight 90 kilos. It seems weird,but i struggled to lift 50 kilos to knee height afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoder16 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Old guy, Your right he must be the yo-yo king. I remember one time when WWF management was supposedly getting on him about his weight and he and his tag team partner both trimmed way down and looked good. Soon after his partner got hurt and was out of the ring for a few months and Henry went right back up to 400+ and it seemed like it was literally in a matter of a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 In the email from terry Todd to me (reproduced in Iron History Jul 5th column), he mentions that a month or so ago Mark weighed 397-400 lbs when he first succeeded in cleaning an Inch replica. By the way, the replica he lifted at the AOBS dinner is NOT the same replica that was used at the Arnold Classic earlier this year. The AOBS replica was literally 'hot from the foundry' and shipped immediately to the venue- this from Richard Sorin with whom I chatted this morning, and who will weigh the bell when it is returned to him circa the 16th/18th of this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy250 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 In the email from terry Todd to me (reproduced inIron History Jul 5th column, he mentions that a month or so ago Mark weighed 397-400 lbs when he first succeeded in cleaning an Inch replica. By the way, the replica he lifted at the AOBS dinner is NOT the same replica that was used at the Arnold Classic earlier this year. The AOBS replica was literally 'hot from the foundry' and shipped immediately to the venue- this from Richard Sorin with whom I chatted this morning, and who will weigh the bell when it is returned to him circa the 16th/18th of this month. I guess I'm confused. I know the one I jerk-pressed a little over a week ago was the one Henry cleaned and pressed. I thought this was the same one that was at the Arnold Classic that was at Richard's booth that Phil Phister continentaled and pressed a while back. I did not realize he had two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 I did not realize he had two. I think Sorinex sells them. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy250 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 I think Sorinex sells them.Robert Yeah I guess so Funny how I seemed to miss the forest for the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Please maintain the distinctions: No one has pressed the Inch bell or its replicas. It has been push pressed, or it has been jerked, but never pressed with one arm. It had been hoped to have the original Inch at the AOBS dinner, but that did not materialize. There had been no production of replicas for several months, but as it happens, a batch was freshly born just prior to the dinner. Richard told me that there was not enough time to have his shipped so the foundry shipped one directly to the venue. I am assuming that certain people were assuming that Kim could be convinced to provide the original, but when he declined, there apparently was no alternative plan in place. If the foundry had not produced some (by happenstance in regard to the dinner), the lift would not have been made. Fewer than 100 replicas have been sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy250 Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Please maintain the distinctions: No one has pressedthe Inch bell or its replicas. It has been push pressed, or it has been jerked, but never pressed with one arm. Hmmm, interesting. I thought Thomas was known for bent pressing the bell overhead. Misinformation? So you mean a strict press? Richard relayed to me that Bud Jefferies did strict press it one time, no push press. At least that is what I thought he said. Maybe he could clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Inch was one of three people in the world- at one point in history- to be able to bent press 300 pounds or more, so I have no doubt that he could bent press the 172 Inch bell, but he most certainly did not one hand clean it. Anytime the oldtimers mentioned the word 'press' by itself, it was, or should have been, in reference to the strict press- all other forms of the press allowed for greater poundages. Perhaps Jeffries has, unaware to me, pressed the Inch, but again, unless he recently gained the ability to one hand clean it, he brought it to the shoulder with both hands. There are literally dozens upon dozens of strongmen who are fully able to take the Inch at the shoulder and put it overhead, but to do that via a strict press...proof please. We have side press, push press, some people even say jerk press, though I failed to understand the distinction between jerk press and jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 I was just watching the Mark Henry clip again (thanks to John and Bill) and noticed something. Everyone is calling the overhead portion a push press, but I don't see the push. I do see him leaning very slightly to his right, then exploding back towards his left side (side press) while driving the bell overhead. Whenever I have done push presses with my IDB I take full advantage of the "one quarter to one half squat" leg assistance. From this angle I can't see Mark's body dropping downward. If I am right then what he did would take a whole lot more raw power than what I consider a skillful "push press", which is more leg explosion on the first half of the lift. What I saw on that video was all upper body. If this is true I would think that with a little practice he would be able to manage a strict press with an Inch replica. Anyway, that is just my 2 cents derived from what I see from a video clip. I was not there, and I don't want to disect the lift in a way to take away from what Mr Henry did (make history). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 http://www.cyberpump.com/features/ironhist...bawlarules.html See #28 and compare #29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Too bad Doug Hepburn didn't get a chance to lift the Inch db. I'm sure he would have easily done a strict press with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nathan, What makes you so sure of that? And are you including a one hand clean in Doug's ability for the Inch? (not being sarcastic, I really want to know why you think that Doug had this ability) He could right arm press 210 while kneeling (how strict) and could right arm side press 172.5 for ten reps, so I suspect you may be right on the press part, but the cleaning of the thick handled Inch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 I meant the press. I think maybe he could have budged it off the floor, but not cleaned. If he got it to his shoulder with 2 arms the press would be child's play. Doug Hepburn rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotGrip Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 I agree with Nathan, Hepburn could have easily done a strict press with the Inch Dumbell. I don't think he would cheat on it either, he was well known for his strictness of lifts. The clean part--probably not, but I bet he could have broken it from the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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