jimwylie1 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I received my #4 gripper in the post a few days ago and I am glad to say that I am now a believer – that is I believe that the #4 is closeable. Until this point the only #4 I had used was owned by David Horne and I had never seem him close this down to less than 1 inch. The thing is a beast. I’d heard talk of people closing #4’s against their legs and taking it down to below an inch when they hadn’t yet closed the #3? I was baffled? How could this be? I am glad to say that my new #4 feels decidedly normal and I can now relate to the progress of others on the #4. Fresh out the bag, no seasoning, I saw David take it down to about 10mm and then hold a ½” block of wood for a timed hold. I really believe that this gripper will be closed by David and possibly myself. If I was to compare this gripper to David’s 529IP gripper I’d probably say my #4 is around the 580 mark, but that’s just a guess. What David’s gripper is I can’t begin to imagine. One thing that is noticeable is that the handle spread on David’s #4 is almost 1cm wider than mine (mine is the same as my #3) – something which I believe makes a massive difference. Does anybody else have a #4 with such a wide handle spread or is David’s gripper exceptional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Yawn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Maybe you'd prefer a post on the Weaver Stick next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 If you think it's a 580 and seems "decideably normal", then you need to think again IMO or call Strossen and tell him he sent a 3 that was mismarked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Oh yeah. Steve, I have some real "stickin" for you coming up in video clips once I get them done by Slim Farman. It'll make you feel inadequate so be prepared! Thanks for the tape John, I got it yesterday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 115-1005574997 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Being the other person to witness Jims #4 outing on friday I can say that its 'normal' compaired to Daves #4 which must be well over 620IP To see Dave get it down to within 10mm, unseasoned and cold was great and recon its going down before christmas. Steve What gives? ??? whats so boring? Jim has a doubled stamped #4. Jim and Dave could probibly be only the 2nd and 3rd people ever to officialy close the #4. And they are from the UK. If that makes you yawn then you'll be comatosed by August (considering some of the lifts being made prior the contest). Your such a good gripper. your a COC why dont you train for the #4 and add that to your CV with the world record weaver stick lift? Jim Train hard mate and you and Dave will have that #4, but Ive still got a bit of work to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Guys, first and foremost....good luck to everyone in their quest to close the #4. It's a #### of an accomplishment regardless of where you're from UK, US, Zimbabwe. That being said, do us all a favor, don't diminish the accomplishments of others by saying crap like "now I understand why others are close to closing a #4". You don't know jack about their grippers relative to anything else. Also, don't predict when you will close a #4, usually when that happens it is an attempt to shift the focus away from one person to another, most people who predicted they would close a 4 by such and such a date have gone the way of the dinosaurs. And, please, by all means let us know if/when you actually do close a gripper (with proper verification), until then shut the #### up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwylie1 Posted July 3, 2002 Author Share Posted July 3, 2002 Nice one Pat. Steve, Your post seems highly relevant about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest woody36 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Why is it that when Heath's mentioned in regard to grippers, there's more ass kissing goes on than occurs at a porn festival, but when one of the Brit guys posts something,it's followed by either derision,name calling or a plain old "shut the **** up" This board as taken on a very pro American flavour,shame because it used to be about grip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSW Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Woody, Maybe its because tomorrow is Independence Day! Seriously though, It sounds like Nathan and David Horne are definitely in the mix for being the next to be certified on the #4. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Its all to do with the endless discussion of IP's and nothing at all to do with who posted Oh and didn't we have some poor sod shot down in 'flames' recently for even suggesting shutting a weak number three? I will be the fist to congratulate the next closer of any number 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 How come you can get the "f" word through when I can't even get he11 through? Seriously Woody, national origin has nothing to do with it. Heath himself has said to knock off all the arse-kissing as you put it. The main reason so much publicity has gone his way is because in a very well-attended public forum, he put on an extremely impressive display of gripping talent, and an even more impressive display of personality, character, and mutual respect. I'm certain that if anyone else had the opportunity to do something similar (Dave, Jim, whoever) they would receive similar accolades. A little healthy rivalry is good, I'm sure we would all have loads of laughs and spur each other on to new PR's should the opportunity to meet present itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Meanwhile the Canadians watch from the sidelines... :p :hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griparn Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I have read a lot of posts on what's going on like "Who is going to close the #4 next" and the talk about ip rating on different grippers. My view on this is that the best way to find out who has the best crushing, pinching and supporting grip is to have tournament or meeting, like the AOBS dinner. Then everyone defenitely can be able see who is the strongest in the differents grip-exercices. Just wanted to say this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest woody36 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Must apologise for the F-word, i thought the filter would automatically kick in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Grip Wars! How appropriate for July 4. I think it just happens to be the makeup of the board. I don't think where someone is from has anything to do with it. I agree with Pat. I know Steve's Weaver stick performance gets me pumped. Ok, maybe that's stretching it just a bit. :p I hope to clip Henry's lift tonight so look for it. Then, Slim's stuff. Then, Dennis Rogers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Anyone who wants to can have a go at my #4. It's 535 IP, and to me.... it's a bear. Although, and I must concur... anyone who is able to close a #4 has done something beyond belief!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 John, your PM box is full. I got the tape. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 There are probably less people training on the Weaver lift than there are men who have been to the moon. The one thing in common is that we all have grippers, that is why grippers dominate postings on grip in general. The same thing applies to lifting an Inch Replica which are as rare as hen's teeth. When the next person after Kinney closes a #4, some will demand to know every possible detail about the gripper used. All this will do is detract from the achievment. I hope it is Heath who does it next. He is modest mature, and does not like to brag about his prowess at every opportunity. he does not even mention his forearm developement. Inspite of him being such a fine young man, some are still displaying their envy as has been done with Mark Henry's recent feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjoynt Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I agree. The next person who closes the #4 will be picked apart. Everyone will want to know what the IP rating is and how does it compare to someone else's #4. All this type of talk does is distract from the ABSOLUTE FACT that closing any #4 is a fantastic feat of grip strength! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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