bencrush Posted May 26, 2002 Posted May 26, 2002 I'm steadily progressing on the exercises that I use the Apollon's Axle for. My question is regarding strength standards for some of the different lifts (using the AA). I'd like to have a goal to shoot for (hopefully a realistic goal) in terms of poundage/and or reps to strive for. The exercises I'm most interested in are double overhand deadlift, alternate grip deadlift (sumo stance), power clean, one hand deadlift (straddle style), strict curl, and reverse curl. Any input would be appreciated greatly Quote
mobsterone Posted May 26, 2002 Posted May 26, 2002 Within reason I see no obvious problem with doing close to normal poundages on an Apollon Bar. Subject to either having tiny hands or, as many do, treating the bar as an occasional toy to play with as opposed to something regular, you ought to be able to get very close to your top weights. As an aside and eveidence I offer my larger than average hands (just a little) and the fact that I am currently using 472.5 kilos (inc bar weight) on my 1.5 inch thick custom made bar. I'd suggest that most likely lift you'd possibly meet with problems on would be the snatch. This will require a big lowering of poundages until hand strength is sufficent the others - little or no problems. Quote Steve Gardener, British 2006/2008/2009/2010 champ, 117.5kg 2HP, Euro 2008 & 2010 champ
bencrush Posted May 26, 2002 Author Posted May 26, 2002 Thanks for the reply, Mobsterone. My only question is 472.5 kilos on what exercise? I don't know if I could roll that much weight on level ground. Quote
mobsterone Posted May 26, 2002 Posted May 26, 2002 Sorry partial deadlifts (above the knee) and (bragging again I'm afraid) over 275 pounds on the Rolling Thunder (more than the official world record...) Quote Steve Gardener, British 2006/2008/2009/2010 champ, 117.5kg 2HP, Euro 2008 & 2010 champ
The Mac Posted May 26, 2002 Posted May 26, 2002 Mobsterone, in regards to your partial deadlifts, what do you think you could manage on a normal 1 inch bar? And by the way, I think you're allowed to brag when you're that good.... Quote Chris McCarthy
mobsterone Posted May 27, 2002 Posted May 27, 2002 The same as per my original reply. In fact I'd probably find it more uncomfortable. The gym I use (when not training in my home gym) has my 700 kilo bar (good knurling) an Elikio (nice bar but high tensile steel means shallow grip) and my 'thick' bar (just right - mmm sounds like the three bears never mind the three bars). It took me just 2 sessions to get the feel of my bar. PS: I've still got a way to go to catch David Horne and Richard Sorin (both around the 1300 pound mark) Quote Steve Gardener, British 2006/2008/2009/2010 champ, 117.5kg 2HP, Euro 2008 & 2010 champ
The Mac Posted May 28, 2002 Posted May 28, 2002 Mobsterone - I agree about the Olympic bar could be more uncomfortable as you get heavier - I'm considering getting hold of a slightly thicker bar (indeed, about one the size of your bar) to use when the weight gets really heavy on the partials. Thanks for the response. Quote Chris McCarthy
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