Guest 115-1005574997 Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Nathan Thats why competitions are so important. they give you a reason to lift and a focus on setting new goals! Go on mate you can tell us what you want to do .... your among friends that think your nutts already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Walker Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Call me crazy but closing the #3 isn't going to make you famous at all. If someone actually is training for that reason-they had better rethink their goals. Actually, if you want to make money-put on posing trunks and get on stage. That is about the only way anyone is going to make a living with weights! Go out side and ask anyone from the normal world who Kinney is? You will get blank stares. I would be willing to bet money that 99.9999% of all the people asked would have no idea. And have you seen Kinney? I don't think he got any money or fame from clsoing the #4. RESPECT is a better word. I think people tend to lean towards the grippers because there is a standard set. Everyone knows you have to have an incredible grip to mash a #3-so that is why they shoot for it. Other feats are a little less clear. Yes, pinching 2-45s is world class as well, but it doesn't seem to earn the repect that the grippers do. Just my opinion. I am not training on the grippers to get famous. Heck, I have been training for 12 years and I never heard of the COCs until I got an Ironmind catalogue one day in the mail. I just hate to lose at anything. Once I got the grippers and tried to close them, the #2 and #3 stopped me cold. This enraged me, and thus caused me to train on them like a man possesed. I am am training the COCs to beat them, and to proove to myself that I can build a grip capable of crushing the strongest grippers. The fact that I will be in some world class company once I close these grippers isn't a bad incentive as well! Other forms of grip are important. I am going to hoist the Thomas Inch and pinch 2-45s in due time. RIght now, I want to focus on crushing these #### grippers :crazy ! Rick Walker :hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Mr Essery, A long time ago, just after I signed up on this crazy forum, somebody asked if anyone could pinch grip 25s & then curl them. David Horne was the only one who responded & he said he tried it at the end of one of his workouts & didn't think it was too bad. I think it would be a good feat to do 35s though someday. Or clean & press 45s overhead (or maybe snatch them). I've never heard of somebody doing a 1 arm towel/rope chinup, that would be cool too. I can hang from a towel with one arm, all I've got to do now is increase my chinning strength. Since I'm so bad on Rolling Thunder, I've got to get a huge lift on that also, like 260 or more. Someday I'll do all that, I've got a ways to go though. Now I bet all you guys are going to train like you're crazy & beat me to all of them. :crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Nathan, Rick and everyone. Best thing is to train and have fun, because without that I wouldn't bother at all. Good luck to everyones pursuits, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 but I think its a sad reflection on society and a sport when the motivating factor is a piece of paper, money or picture in a magazine. what happened to the value of self sacrifice and pushing yourself to the limits when no one is watching. Scott, I couldn't agree more with this statement. However, I also realize that not all of the people who seek certification do it for these reasons. There are a handful of people here who I have the utmost of respect for (you know who you are guys) that I KNOW for a fact did not get certified just for the paper or picture in MILO. However, judging only by posts here from people that I don't correspond with personally it does seem that this is the driving motivator for many. Nathan, nothing to be ashamed of about those goals. Because the 25's are so short I remember thinking "I will try that, it can't be that bad." Well, I was wrong. I see why David is the only one who recorded a success with that test. EDIT IN I just saw David's response after I sent mine, that sums up what I had to learn the hard way. If it isn't fun then (for me) it is a waste of time that could be better spent in other pursuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Someone closes their #2 gripper and it becomes a 4 page "congrats", I assume your talking about me, dont worry, I do pleanty of other stuff besides just trying to close some grippers. :hehe Oh well, all the support is nice, just people may not find things that they dont do that impressive. I mean, when saw that picture, I was amazed. Very awesome lift, I cant even deadlift 500+ pounds let alone with one hand and grasping on to a little rod like that. I send my "congrats" to Jim, very inspiring. (sorry about the quote, cant really get this stuff right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I agree with Tim. Certification is a very cool thing, and definitely one of the more pleasant experiences I've had, but I'd still be doing every bit of my training regardless because it is what I enjoy, it is what I am. I have trained only for myself for years, and that is who I continue to train for. My goals are mine and mine alone. If something I accomplish warrants some publicity, great, if asked I will gladly try to help others with their training or motivation. And so you know, there is not enough money in the world to get me to endorse or say something I don't believe in. Even more frustrating than those who certify for a piece of paper etc. is the endless self-promoters who never resist an opportunity to plug themselves. People who must post on every thread regardless of what it is..... "hey that reminds me of a great story about me, let me tell you how great I am, I'm an animal". That crap gets old. Believe me, there are people training ten times harder who don't say a word. As for competition, it is a great thing, but not absolutely necessary to excel in this arena. I do concede that the adrenaline of competing seems to push the poundages and efforts way up. The guys in the UK are very fortunate to have such a group of people with similar interests so close by. I can't even tell you where the closest grip-trainer to me is located, this makes competitions and group training sessions difficult to come by. As for the question Scott posed at the beginning of this thread, there's quite a few people who stack up quite well against what you guys are doing over in Britain. That's not meant as a shot in any way, just realistically telling what I know is going on. As David said earlier, I wish good luck to everyone's pursuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Scott you cheeky monkey :0 I'm training very hard. In fact, as an aside, each time I do the grip training I think of the competition. I did a new PB for both hands in the v-bar and another pb both methods on the pinch yesterday. Getting my excuse in early a pain I have been having affects my wrist curls. The thick handled db, RT, hammer curls are all coming along nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Quote Baldy - Someone closes their #2 gripper and it becomes a 4 page "congrats", Jett - I assume your talking about me, dont worry, I do pleanty of other stuff besides just trying to close some grippers. Jett - Nope. If that fits you that is cool, but if you search back this thread has been repeated time and time again. I did not have any one occurrence in mind. Pat - great post. I especially second the part about the "self-promoters who never resist an opportunity to plug themselves". It would be great to see that kind of stuff end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Even more frustrating than those who certify for a piece of paper etc. is the endless self-promoters who never resist an opportunity to plug themselves. People who must post on every thread regardless of what it is..... "hey that reminds me of a great story about me, let me tell you how great I am, I'm an animal". That crap gets old. Total agreement...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 You know THIS thread reminds me of a great story about me!! Let me tell you how GREAT I am!! I'm an animal!!! :p :p (Sorry.... couldn't resist!! Those very lines are the Sybersnottdom mantra I chant to myself EVERY day when I get outta bed!!). :p :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 hmmm... Lots of peoples opinions here stating that they don't like those who promote themselves by giving their opinion and thereby falling into the same trap... Or is it just me :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 No it's just you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I personally think it’s great that people post their accomplishments on this board. Because grip training is so specialist most ‘normal’ people don’t care if you’ve shut a certain gripper or got a PB in your pinch lift or anything else. The great thing about this board is that the people here do care and are interested. I am lucky that I train with a great bunch of people that love grip training, and gaining their respect is more than enough reward for my efforts. Unfortunately, it appears that many people on this board are more isolated when it comes to grip training, and the only other people they know who are interested, are right here on this board. I can remember when I first shut the #1 – I was so excited I wanted to tell the world and I’m sure that’s how a lot of people feel here when they eventually shut the #2 or get a PB. Maybe I’m a little insecure but if I achieve something it means a lot to get ‘the nod’ from people I respect. It certainly spurs me on to train harder an push my limits in any case . Maybe I’m missing the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Roark Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I hope no-one is pissed about me posting my PRs. I am proud of them as they have taken alot of effort to get there. Jim, I feel the same way you do, there is noone near me who could care less about gripping or lifting for that matter. You guys are all I have to talk grip with. I see some heavy self promoting and it gets old, I just wonder if you guys see posting PRs the same. I think it is sort of a compliment from me to all that has really helped me with advice on my routine. I am going down to Heaths tomorrow to train with one of my grip bros.. its an over 2 hr. drive but it is worth it to me. I am going to have to back up all my PRs tomorrow and maybe hopefully make one or two to share with those who don't mind. Good grippin to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I think there's a difference between someone who puts up a training update or a big lift (& there's nothing wrong with that), and someone who puts up something & basically says 'all you other guys suck' or 'I'm so much better than you jerks'. It's easy to post something & not sound like a jerk on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Posting PR's are cool. Personally I like to know when someone busts their own best lift. This is a training board, I like to read about training. I think Pat is talking about people who see fit to post on , or top someone on every single post. Example: "Hey guys, I just did a PR pinching, I did 25's for 26 secs, thanks for all your help." "That reminds me of last night!! I was running around banging my head on the wall, cussing everything is site, I smashed my toes 16 times to get myself REAL pissed off!!! Then I cranked the music, AWWWW BABY!!! Then I was rearing to go, I chalked up, smashed my toes again just for good measure, bit off half my tounge and pinched 25's for 27 secs!!!! AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" A simple congrats would have been suffecient, OR," Nice job, I too had a pinch PR last night." Losing a little blood is part of it, getting cranked is part of it, but to put it in every single post. Come on, you would die of blood loss, massive head injuries, heart attack, several aneurisms, and the occasional loading pin to the brain if you did it everytime. Just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 If hand strength followers cannot post here about their PR's, where then should they post? I remember the glee I felt when I reached my goal in the wrist curl. David Horne did not post to say that my limit set was his warmup set, even though, in fact it was! I learned that fact by emailing him and asking him. So what I am doing is about 50-% or less than what he can do even though our bodyweights would indicate we are in the same class. Hardly. Recently, in connection with something else, Wannagrip pointed out to me that this board is available all over the world and one must keep in mind the absolute range of IQ's reading it. Some newbies may not even know who Kinney is, indeed, probably don't. Does that bother Kinney? I susupect not. So long as the moderators are happy, keep on posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 I gotta admit that I do enjoy looking on the grippage, and have over the time picked up some VERY good information which I have used and of course passed onto others. I'll either skim over the particular blowhard posts that you mention, or have a bit of a giggle reading them. Suppose it depends on the mood I'm in. I think we should all remember that we were all mewbies once upon a time, and poundages that I don't even warm up with now, were heavy then. I have 19 training books, with about a year or so in each one, and the early ones are fun ones to read. At that time there was no grippage, Iron Grip mag, grip comps or even many people doing it, so I'm pleased to have come so far, and this is mainly due to a lot of reading, listening and PRACTICE. Keep at it, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 We should be very proud of this board/site. What an incredible almost Real Time info exchange! I believe this board and site has helped "feed" the list of COC's and that's just plain cool. It's the members that make the community! And, we've got all time greats and total newbies posting at the same forum and we VERY seldom as mod's have to delete posts due to arguments, etc. The Grip Community here is a solid one! Let's remember that and try and continue to grow it and the passing of knowledge. I love this place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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