Guest Jeff Roark Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 I just saw the pics of David nearly getting His Inch Replica to the point of where no man has traveled. He is on the edge of breaking ground that in my opinion that has never been broke and who is he? A grip specialist. He is not competing in the world strongest man or anything like that of where the giants rule. He has got the equalizer though... his grip. How many more feats or legends be leveled by a small man with a world class grip, feats that the giants of the world cannot touch because they are missing the secret ingredient..GRIP! It makes me see the flaws in my training, that if I would have only knew from the start what really was important, where could I be now? Probably light years removed from where I am now. I just started helping this guy who lives up the road from me with his training...I have already preached of squats and deads and compounds but I have preached little on grip to him. I am cheating him, this is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersqueeze Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 I feel much the same. If only I had known 30 years ago what I know now... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth talbot Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 Jeff, Believe me, David is not a small man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Black Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 The good news is that it's never to late to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 Liz - try and keep it clean I do know what you mean. One of Dave's quoted targets for the year was getting the arms over 20". Now thats not small, even though he weighs in at about 100 kilos his arms will be a bit bigger than my 18's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Roark Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 NO he is not small, but he is not 350lbs+ and 7 foot tall. This isn't about his size, but his hands leveling the playing feild. Also it is about the thought of grip training be so important from the beginning of ones training, especially if one desires to demonstrate his ability at things others cannot conceive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 Jeff, Where did you see these pics? Are they on the 'net?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 They are on Nick's site. www.smartstrength.com David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 David, I know you have many grip records to your name, but would you consider yourself a "grip specialist"? I know that you said you have been armwrestling for a bit now, and you have mentioned other strength endeavors before that you have been a part of (stonelifting, and I think you said strongman comps). I don't ask that to belittle what you have done, I really just wonder if it would be fair to to you to call you a grip specialist. Maybe you are just one of the few people whose grip is equal to their body power, and most people have a grip much weaker than their body. When I think of a "grip specialist", I picture some guy who weighs 135 lbs and never lifts heavy (apart from grip stuff) but bends nails, pinch grips a lot, etc. You don't fit that description. Neither does Mr Sorin (IMHO), he holds powerlifting records and such as well as grip records. I think you both have a whole lot of strength both with grip and overall. BTW, cool pics on Nick's site, looks like you almost have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 I think I'd call myself an all round strength athlete who happens to have a strong grip. I love, and have competed in many strength sports over many years. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 David, I think that fits the bill for you too. I am glad that you didn't take my question wrong. I meant what I wrote as a compliment to your overall achievements. Again, congrats on getting the db that far. I bet if you had an Inch replica instead of the plate loader you could do it, the plate loaders are hard on the leg with continentals. The replica would be rounded, making it easier to add that little bit more leg assist, if that is the route you took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 John Brookfield has done a one arm chinup at 260lbs & 3 two arm chinups with an added 250 for a total of 510lbs. He's also done a seated press with a 200lb sandbag for 20 reps. If that's not upper body strength I don't know what is! Man would I hate to be a piece of metal he's mauling. :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersqueeze Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 Baldy - In my experience that hypothetical 135 lb grip specialist you alluded to is probably much harder to come by than the all around strongman who is also strong at grip. I believe that it takes an unusually strong body to support an unusually strong grip. Looking at the worlds best grippers, most, if not all, are very strong throughout the entire body. There are a few exceptions, but there always are... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Say Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 That Tommy Heslep (CoC & in the Jan Milo I think) doesn't look like much, he's like 5'10" & 160. The thing said he can deadlift 165 or something on a 3 1/2" bar & he breaks wrenches & stuff. I thhink most grrip bosses have pretty good strength all around though. Heslep is one of those peewees with killer hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldy Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 Mike, I think that you are right. That is why I think the title "grip specialist" doesn't accurately apply to many people. Nathan, I have seen the guy you are referring to in MILO. Many people would say the same about Dennis Rogers if they saw him. Many would have said the same about Greenstein. I try to be careful not to judge a book by its cover. That guy could throw you around like a rag doll for all you know. On the other end of the spectrum, anyone on here know Matt Klingsporn? In the March 2001 MILO he looks like someone shaved a grizzly bear and took its picture. Said he trained for 2 days to close his #3. That guy is just huge. Also, he said he trains grip every day 3x a day. Bill, he has even you beat with his frequency! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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