ruffhans Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 with all the new #4 crushers and probably more to come has anyone heard about I.M making a tougher gripper? i should email Strosan and ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) I dont really think there is a use for a number5 No one can even close the 4. (under im rules) Edited December 4, 2005 by Oldtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffhans Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 i dont understand I.M has a list of people that have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Yes, but the people that have certed on the number 4, didnt have to use credit card set. and the new grippers are harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 with all the new #4 crushers and probably more to come has anyone heard about I.M making a tougher gripper? i should email Strosan and ask him. ← What "all the new #4 crushers"? Last one to certify was in 2004 with the old IM rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bri Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 that list of people, from what i understand, closed the #4 under the rules of certification before the credit card rule was put in place. what oldtime is saying is that nobody can CCS a #4. doing a MMS with the 4 is an absolutely incredible feat though, i know squeezing my #4 is like squeezing a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handgripperman Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 nobody can close a brand new #4 out of the package with a set either. They made them beastly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soilworker Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I wouldn't go as far as to say "all the new #4 closers". I can count the # of documented closes from non-Ironmind certed individuals on one had. Like everyone said, since no one can do it with the new rules, there is no need of a gripper that is even moderately harder. A #5 would be somewhere around a .34 spring probably. Plus if it did happen the spreads would be like 3 ¼". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 with all the new #4 crushers and probably more to come has anyone heard about I.M making a tougher gripper? i should email Strosan and ask him. ← Acting like a newbie! You should know better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 with all the new #4 crushers and probably more to come has anyone heard about I.M making a tougher gripper? i should email Strosan and ask him. ← Acting like a newbie! You should know better.... ← That's a legit question. Quit picking on the newbies. HG just announced the 350. Maybe someday IM will make a #5... 450 pounds? Not to cert on, maybe just to squeeze. It's not all about certs. It's about getting stronger. Why did BB make the Galaxy? NOBODY on any board will ever "cert" on it, but they might get it closed with a MM set. To me, just getting the gripper closed, even with a MM set, is OK in my books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 IM would be much better off to try and offer something like a 3.5 than a #5. No one is closing new 4's with the CC set, so a between step would be better than 3 steps ahead, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Is anybody even training to CCS a #4(people that can close it with MMS already)? Clay was for awhile but then he got into strongman. He was the only one I heard of even giving it a serious thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 That's a legit question. Quit picking on the newbies. ← Uh, no... it is NOT a legit question since it's been asked on this forum dozens of times!! HG just announced the 350.What does that have to do with IM building a #5?? Maybe someday IM will make a #5... 450 pounds? Oh, please stop this silly silly wishing! How many people have certed on the #4? Thank you... you just answered my question. THERE IS NO DEMAND AND WILL NEVER BE A DEMAND FOR A #5 GRIPPER! Not to cert on, maybe just to squeeze. It's not all about certs. It's about getting stronger. Why did BB make the Galaxy? NOBODY on any board will ever "cert" on it, but they might get it closed with a MM set. So in other words, it would be a fancy paperweight, right? Listen, I have folks who tell me that they can't understand why they should get a #2 gripper! What do you think they'll do when it comes to a gripper that they have no way in hell of even moving??? End of discussion. Let's move on........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 IM would be much better off to try and offer something like a 3.5 than a #5. No one is closing new 4's with the CC set, so a between step would be better than 3 steps ahead, IMO. ← Exactly, Heath. The stronger the gripper, the less in demand it is and the fewer of them IronMind sells. They sell 1,000's more Trainers than they do #4's, just ask Dr. Strossen himself - he'll tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 That's a legit question. Quit picking on the newbies. ← Uh, no... it is NOT a legit question since it's been asked on this forum dozens of times!! HG just announced the 350.What does that have to do with IM building a #5?? Maybe someday IM will make a #5... 450 pounds? Oh, please stop this silly silly wishing! How many people have certed on the #4? Thank you... you just answered my question. THERE IS NO DEMAND AND WILL NEVER BE A DEMAND FOR A #5 GRIPPER! Not to cert on, maybe just to squeeze. It's not all about certs. It's about getting stronger. Why did BB make the Galaxy? NOBODY on any board will ever "cert" on it, but they might get it closed with a MM set.So in other words, it would be a fancy paperweight, right? Listen, I have folks who tell me that they can't understand why they should get a #2 gripper! What do you think they'll do when it comes to a gripper that they have no way in hell of even moving???End of discussion. Let's move on........... ← I knew I would get a "level-headed" and "mature" response to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I knew I would get a "level-headed" and "mature" response to this. ← No problem. Level-headed and mature... that's me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soilworker Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Is anybody even training to CCS a #4(people that can close it with MMS already)? Clay was for awhile but then he got into strongman. He was the only one I heard of even giving it a serious thought ← What about Patrick Gansel? I thought he was but I could be wrong, it's not like he goes around braying about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) I knew I would get a "level-headed" and "mature" response to this. ← No problem. Level-headed and mature... that's me!! ← It's all good. I think a #5 would be cool to have. IM makes a quality product and once I can MM set a #4, I would like to have a #5. I only mentioned the HG350, because people are getting stronger and like HG, IM may someday make a #5 because people are getting stronger. I do think the CCS rule is a bit silly and It will make certing on the #4, next to impossible for most, if not all. Time will tell. I guess it really depends on if the population is going after certs, or strength? Edited December 5, 2005 by StalwartSentinel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkmann Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 a number 5? I think a #5 is a legit question. I mean, part of KTA is to use the next level of gripper isn't it? A #5 could help with that. I'm not arguing that IM wouldn't sell many. I agree with that, I'm just saying it could be put to work. Sure, they could try to have certs on it, not that anyone would be able to do it in the near future. That won't stop newbies from buying 1-5 and a bunch of tugs when they start. I agree with you guys that a 3.5 would be more useful, but most people would tell you that no grippers are useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPaulFromCityHall Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 was samuelsons no.4 close under new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grip Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Didn't they have a news headline about someone no-setting the #4 or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's all good. ← Yep! I think a #5 would be cool to have. IM makes a quality product and once I can MM set a #4, I would like to have a #5.It would be cool to have, but honestly - what could you do with it? I have a #4 that I can't even BUDGE.I only mentioned the HG350, because people are getting stronger and like HG, IM may someday make a #5 because people are getting stronger. They made the HG350 because it seemed like a good idea to step up the progression. Some guys can close the HG300 with ease (I am one of those), I'm thinking that Heavy Grips decided that there is a market for a stronger gripper than the HG300. And there is a difference between a gripper that's POSSIBLE and one that's totally IMPOSSIBLE (like an IM #5). Guys like Joe Kinney, Dave Morton and Clay are the true 1% of the grip world as we know it. I do think the CCS rule is a bit silly and It will make certing on the #4, next to impossible for most, if not all.It makes it impossible for most ON THE #3, let alone the #4. Strossen told me that he should have made the rule change long before he did.Time will tell. I guess it really depends on if the population is going after certs, or strength? The population as a whole could care less, IMO. It's guys like us on this forum that talk about and wonder what companies like IronMind are going to do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindovermatter Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 nobody can close a brand new #4 out of the package with a set either. They made them beastly. ← in Magnus Samuellson's movie the strongest arms he does it with 3 fingers, but yes they are very beastly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalwartSentinel Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It would be cool to have, but honestly - what could you do with it? I have a #4 that I can't even BUDGE. ← I would work on closing the #5. You are basing all of this, on what YOU are able to do. They made the HG350 because it seemed like a good idea to step up the progression. Some guys can close the HG300 with ease (I am one of those), I'm thinking that Heavy Grips decided that there is a market for a stronger gripper than the HG300. And there is a difference between a gripper that's POSSIBLE and one that's totally IMPOSSIBLE (like an IM #5). ← Someday the #5 will be demanded by some. Those who can MMS a #4. It makes it impossible for most ON THE #3, let alone the #4. Strossen told me that he should have made the rule change long before he did. ← I agree. The CCS, should have been from day one, not implemented part way through. The population as a whole could care less, IMO. It's guys like us on this forum that talk about and wonder what companies like IronMind are going to do next. ← By population, I meant us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 John, who did something in your oatmeal this morning? These are friendly forums! That's a legit question. Quit picking on the newbies. ← Uh, no... it is NOT a legit question since it's been asked on this forum dozens of times!! HG just announced the 350.What does that have to do with IM building a #5?? Maybe someday IM will make a #5... 450 pounds? Oh, please stop this silly silly wishing! How many people have certed on the #4? Thank you... you just answered my question. THERE IS NO DEMAND AND WILL NEVER BE A DEMAND FOR A #5 GRIPPER! Not to cert on, maybe just to squeeze. It's not all about certs. It's about getting stronger. Why did BB make the Galaxy? NOBODY on any board will ever "cert" on it, but they might get it closed with a MM set.So in other words, it would be a fancy paperweight, right? Listen, I have folks who tell me that they can't understand why they should get a #2 gripper! What do you think they'll do when it comes to a gripper that they have no way in hell of even moving???End of discussion. Let's move on........... ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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