Dude Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 This might sound like a dumb question but has anyone tried putting nails/bolts etc... in the freezer to increase their difficulty? I dunno if that would cause them to snap or something along those lines so I figured I'd ask before I try it. Since you can feel the bend get easier when the nail heats up I wondered if it would increase the difficulty throughout the bend if it was cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunny Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Doubt it would have much effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I've pondered this question, too. I agree that any change in difficulty created by your refrigerator would be marginal. Kind of like how much more difficult will that fly landing on my squat bar make the lift. I say this from personal experience gained by bending in temperatures ranging from freezing to 100 degrees. And yes, the bending bars were stored outdoors (in my garage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunny Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would guess that you would have to cryogenically freese the metal to have any affect and then you would have handling issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would guess that you would have to cryogenically freese the metal to have any affect and then you would have handling issues ← I have access to a ton of dry ice, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Ill freeze a rednail and get back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 id say it would make a noticeable diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anson Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I prime all my stock with a blowtorch right before bending it, I'll try the ice prime next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) I prime all my stock with a blowtorch right before bending it, I'll try the ice prime next time. ← Do you heat until cherry red or lightly singe? Edited November 23, 2005 by Dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anson Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Do you heat until cherry red or lightly singe? ← Cherry red, and for some reason my bending strength has gone through the roof! Must be all that wrist work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Cherry red, and for some reason my bending strength has gone through the roof! Must be all that wrist work. ← Depends, are you heating with Mapp gas? If so you may be seeing different gains than most do using a set of torches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joehawkins Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I was gonna say, I'm no scientist (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express), but if you freeze something with dry ice (or maybe it's just liquid nitrogen), doesn't it become brittle enough to shatter like glass? That would be an awesome "trick" if no one knew you did it. Just start bending a huge piece of steel and have it just shatter into a million pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 I was gonna say, I'm no scientist (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express), but if you freeze something with dry ice (or maybe it's just liquid nitrogen), doesn't it become brittle enough to shatter like glass? That would be an awesome "trick" if no one knew you did it. Just start bending a huge piece of steel and have it just shatter into a million pieces. ← I have access to a ton of dry ice, if that was possible it would nuts. Anyone think that wouldd work cause I'd give it a try for a vid, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Am I the only one who is wondering why Dude would have access to one ton of dry ice? Dry Ice blasting? Movie making? A very, very elaborate plan to rule the bending world? I don't know if I can sleep tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Am I the only one who is wondering why Dude would have access to one ton of dry ice? Dry Ice blasting? Movie making? A very, very elaborate plan to rule the bending world? I don't know if I can sleep tonight... ← lol my father is an aircraft inspector and they have huge bins of it. Not sure what exactly for. Usually he'll throw a piece in his cooler to keep drinks and food cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusom1 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 http://www.efunda.com/processes/heat_treat...ning/direct.cfm good stuff on hardening. I was trying to figure out how much difference it would make. The overall contraction on a bar is going to be minimal, but more importantly for the mental side- if you stick one in the freezer and melt it down, you know you own it! I don't think dry ice would get it cold enough to shatter. Couldn't imagine the force it would take?? If it does, we will have cool vid of Ron cutting his neck open . Serves you DO benders right!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 i was thinking the same thing the other day, but your right they might snap so what ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusom1 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/thexp.html Difference in length = 5.5 x 10-5 m (minimal) I didn't calculate the difference in sheer strength difference If you let it sit in a cooler and place on top of dry ice it might get cold enough to break (wear gloves). Liquid nitrogen would do it for sure. I don't know if you are serious about trying the dry ice but be careful. Hit it with a hammer first and see if it breaks. Then you would be the second RED nail breaker EVER!! Don't cut your neck. I sound like my mom. It would be fun to see what would happen??? Edited November 24, 2005 by carusom1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I froze a red, bent it. Then i bent one at room tempature, I didnt a big diffrence, but it was definatly harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I froze a red, bent it.Then i bent one at room tempature, I didnt a big diffrence, but it was definatly harder. ← how long did you freeze it for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I froze a red, bent it.Then i bent one at room tempature, I didnt a big diffrence, but it was definatly harder. ← how long did you freeze it for? ← 1 day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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